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Alpha 18 Dev Diary!!

  • A18 Stable is Out!

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I'll add 10 more if you keep it up!
No just the tier 4's and 5's. We want to do some infiltration quests for sneaky types where you cannot be seen or you fail the quest, so you have to sneak through the whole thing, maybe disable power to turrets, shoot out some lights with a silenced weapon, etc.
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This sounds awesome. Is something you want to do in A19?

 
If there are turrets in the POIs, then why don't they shoot the zombies?
Perhaps in some...they could!

-Morloc
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maybe because turrets can be set to not shoot zombies... some only shoot "Morlocs" now :)

 
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Yeah, the problem with that sneaking quest is that it sounds awesome on paper,
but in reality a simple enemy spotting you at the end of a 2 hour successful sneaking would suck big time. In fallout at least you got to quicksave and reload.

I say when they are in you could give us a few chances to screw up, like 2 or 3 sightings with the consecuent money penalty on the quest reward.

Like: Yeah Rekt, I would do that quest perfectly if you give me 50.000 dukes no problem lol.
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Yeah like maybe if you killed the guy who spotted you quick enough you are ok.

 
You said that the book’s icon will not change after reading the book, but I didn’t ask about that.I asked if the description of the subject would change.

If I correctly understood your answer, then the studied book or scheme will not differ from the unstudied? Right?

Then another question: is it planned to add something like that in Alpha 18, or later? (I’m sure I don’t know the answer to this question).
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No the ICON DOES CHANGE after you read it. I didn't show it because its unfinished. There is no reason to do anything else, its great as is. The icon will be done today.

 
This sounds awesome. Is something you want to do in A19?
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Not sure, we want to do some restore the power quests in A19, hopefully this is leg work that can make turrets a no brainer.

Speaking of legs, knocked out 375x10 today. 400 in a few weeks :)

 
Not sure what the issue is with skipping some POIs dungeon path to the loot room. The people that do this miss out on XP. That’s the downside. It’s not like every POI is designed that way.

Adding “checkpoints” means you have to go through the POI a certain way, which is already how the dungeons are designed (which to me makes things a bit too linear) and maybe someone just wants to break through a wall here and there. This will further limit options and strategy to overtake a POI.

Adding turrets is fine, but I hope those are limited to certain POIs that make sense and are tied to game stages. The loot also better be worth the hassle otherwise players will skip them, much like people do with the bear and dog POIs.

Imo, the best solution is to randomize that dungeon path and loot room locations so nobody knows exactly where to go every time. Obviously this is a big job, so I’m not holding my breath, but it would make each POI unique.

Loc

 
maybe because turrets can be set to not shoot zombies...
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It would be REALLY weird during a zombie apocalypse to have turrets not set to shoot zombies.

Yes, I can think of a few scenarios where such a setting might be in place, but it'd be the exception.

UNLESS.....L33t Zombie Engineers!!

-Morloc

 
I see. That's starting to sound like another genre, and I like it. Thx.
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thats why he plays single player.... :)

no body trusts him... he will shoot you in the back.. he will spawn hordes on you... oh wait... no that was someone else who did that... ok move on.. nothing to see here. :) almost sounds like something i do... maybe thats why i play sp

 
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If there are turrets in the POIs, then why don't they shoot the zombies?
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The turrets have heat sensors.

Well I was thinking that the bleeding wouldn't be too bad. I mean, it's not like it's an artery that was hit. IRL it would take maybe a whole day to bleed out - so game time it would take ~40 minutes (for the day to pass), giving you plenty of time to sort out that bandage.
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Ah, ok, I thought you meant the usual bleeding you get from zombies.

 
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Exactly. That's why I suggested adding some simple checkpoint triggers into various POIs, to validate the value of the final loot. Skipping the dungeon crawl entirely might yield only half of the loot generated, while hitting each checkpoint boosts the loot up to its fully intended amount.
Checkpoints could be randomized like existing sleeper spawns (and undetectable by the player) so that there is no way to cheat.

A player cutting corners will get less reward and a player doing the full dungeon experience will get rewarded for their work.
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Huh. So the more zombies you kill, the more loot you get.

Now what if instead of adding to a final loot room, killing zombies in a sleeper volume caused a loot container to appear. Or even better and harder to cheese, it could be made so that EVERY zombie has it's OWN loot container (is your mind blown yet?). This way will ensure that the player always gets a reward that is exactly proportional to the amount of effort they put in. Now if there were only a way give a fair reward to the players who go into the effort to eat glass...

 
thats why he plays single player.... :)

no body trusts him... he will shoot you in the back.. he will spawn hordes on you... oh wait... no that was someone else who did that... ok move on.. nothing to see here. :) almost sounds like something i do... maybe thats why i play sp
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We shall never play with the likes of you then. Or it would be Any Day to Die . :angel:

 
Huh. So the more zombies you kill, the more loot you get.
Now what if instead of adding to a final loot room, killing zombies in a sleeper volume caused a loot container to appear. Or even better and harder to cheese, it could be made so that EVERY zombie has it's OWN loot container (is your mind blown yet?). This way will ensure that the player always gets a reward that is exactly proportional to the amount of effort they put in. Now if there were only a way give a fair reward to the players who go into the effort to eat glass...
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Then you are devaluing the POIs even further rather than increasing their value.

Players who seriously want to dumb down the game do have access to previous alpha builds without the dungeon-crawl POIs, where you can get all your xp and little loot bags from the zombies wandering the environment.

Problem solved for that crew

 
They do look like fun. I am doing the fist build and its just awesome. I think bats are way easier though, because of range. But stamina use is low on brawler so its pretty nice in that regard. I can usually just keep punching unless I get too power attack heavy and roll through 5 dudes no problem.
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ok so blunt weapons tier 3 is sweet, what about high end bladed weapon?

 
A POI could contain several locked boxes or hidden stashes. The area people go directly to for loot that is surrounded by zombies could be where you get the keys or where some switch exposes a hidden stash somewhere else among a few random locations in the POI. Your plan was only partially successful, because now you still have to crawl through the dungeon to get what you are looking for.

 
A POI could contain several locked boxes or hidden stashes. The area people go directly to for loot that is surrounded by zombies could be where you get the keys or where some switch exposes a hidden stash somewhere else among a few random locations in the POI. Your plan was only partially successful, because now you still have to crawl through the dungeon to get what you are looking for.
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That could be a cool POI

 
A POI could contain several locked boxes or hidden stashes. The area people go directly to for loot that is surrounded by zombies could be where you get the keys or where some switch exposes a hidden stash somewhere else among a few random locations in the POI. Your plan was only partially successful, because now you still have to crawl through the dungeon to get what you are looking for.
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Reversed the whole scenario! Interesting. Challenge here would be the T5 POIs - work your way to the top to get the keys so you can work your way back down to get the loot...some people may have an issue with this...

 
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