PC Alpha 18 Dev Diary!!

[sillls]

Do you throw away your modded pink pump shotgun? No. So why would you throw away your spear? Its something you are heavily invested in, its not just a stick you don't care about. We could always consider "throw away spears" like arrows, but they wouldn't be moddable and at this point, nope not happening for A18.

Oh but you do! Don't you throw the spear? When you throw the spear, doesn't it move away from you?

So you are throwing it away.

 

[spacepiggio]

Spears have quality so they can’t stack. You don’t have to throw them. They work well as a longer reach jabbing weapon. In fact I find it more satisfying to combo it up with a few jabs and then a throw— and then you are retrieving it only once in awhile.

That makes sense, Pointed Sticks are coming back aren't they? If they are then how about stacking those & making them throwable.

I would be happy if I could throw a bunch of sharp wooden objects consecutively without retrieving a single 1...

Early game weapon of course...

 

[madmole]

It's already been confirmed that in order to get large quantities of gas in A18, that we'll have to go mining for oil shale. (Which, in my opinion, is a fantastic change; by day 20 I would always have dozens upon dozens of gas barrels, while I hadn't mined a single bit of shale, so it was very unbalanced.) I was just curious if vehicles will also take more petrol to fill up their fuel tanks in A18? I'm just speaking from a perspective of, "I personally see no reason to up the "fuel cost", nor do I see a reason not to", if you know what I mean.
Edit: As an extension to the question above, will wrenching cars also give us reduced gas (per car) in A18? Because besides finding oil barrels around yonder, wrenching cars also contributed to around 20% of my gas collection before going for oil shale in A17.

Yes its much better now, I'm doing "gas runs" on occasion or pulling over to harvest cars for sure here and there, and thats using the minibike. The 4x4 would kill all my gas in 2 days probably. I only use it if I get rekt to drive back to get my stuff right now, or if I know I'm looting for a couple days away from base and need the space.

 

[madmole]

Maybe make it only buy-able at the trader.
Madmole, so finally you came around the idea of a new UI? (for A19)

I thought you would, with all this new skills, icons, etc. It would be very cool to give them a fresher look with a new UI.

Its not new, its more of a reskin. Looks nice though.

 

[madmole]

I know you said voxels have limitations, that's why I told you not to change anything, I totally understand your reasons, as I said, I was not complaining, this was my way of saying that modding support really helps a lot when you want to implement something in the game, so we can have the option of changing that. It's a win-win scenario for everyone.
I was comparing the bicycle speed with the way I ride the bicycle in real life and yeah, for a game it may not be that good to be so fast. Sorry if I sounded rude or ungrateful, it was not my intention. :smile-new:

No worries, I get it. I use a horse mod in skyrim to make the horses way faster because I they are so slow the devs didn't want everyone uncovering the entire map in 5 minutes.

 

[madmole]

Spears don’t break when thrown. They CAN get lost if you miss...
You need to be very careful when you have a beautiful steel spear with a few mods attached. You will love it and cry real tears if it gets lost in the tall grass. Throw with care.

Long throws are very satisfying when they fly true but you’ll mostly only do that with unmodified wood spears. Point blank throwing is much better on your nerves when you have a fully progressed and tricked out spear. Lol

There is a bug where the terrain eats them right now.

 

[MechanicalLens]

Yes its much better now, I'm doing "gas runs" on occasion or pulling over to harvest cars for sure here and there, and thats using the minibike. The 4x4 would kill all my gas in 2 days probably. I only use it if I get rekt to drive back to get my stuff right now, or if I know I'm looting for a couple days away from base and need the space.

Excellent! :applouse:

 

[Trankitas]

Its not new, its more of a reskin. Looks nice though.

Do you have a sneak peek for us?

 

[Ayrton]

We see the gyro as a flying minibike, its a miracle the thing works. I see the helicopter as an airborn assault / transport ultimate end game vehicle.

Uuff this sounds great, a helicopter is the dream of the majority, hopefully we can see it in the Alpha 20

 

[Catt]

I did. I'm saying its fine. Players would be confused even further by complicated it more.

Yeah, perfectly fine I agree.

It would just add some depth to first aid and realism. (I know realism can hurt game play at times but think this would actally be cool).

We talk about having respect for the game's difficulty and how not being prepared can make you face the consequences. I think bandages+healing factor is really cheesy and let's you heal to 100% too easy and unrealistically but it's OK either way. First aid and proper usage of it would be huge in a zombie apocalypse and the current system could have more depth in my opinion.

A simple note on bandages saying "will only restore up to 75% of your permanent damage until more potent first aid is applied" is pretty straight forward and won't confuse people.

Thanks for the read! Maybe something to consider later, too.

 

[Zombiepoptard]

When starting a new game can you guys make it so the the cheats and the console controls can’t be accessed ever in that one game. I find it very hard to not mess with those kinds of stuff due to the convenance of altering time and my own restraint.

 

[Lonestarcanuck]

With gas being scarce until you unlock gas crafting the minibike might make a comeback. Motorcycle isn't bad though. 4x4 takes so much gas just to fill I feel bad driving it. Once I get my oil plant going though, I would. Day 50 and no gas can schematic yet. I might have to buy the perk but I'm holding out as long as I can hoping to find the schematic.

wait Gas schematic is back in A18? you don't need it in A17.4.

 

[MajorMunchy]

There is a bug where the terrain eats them right now.

this would be a bug id rather not have on A18 experimental Q.Q

 

[Trankitas]

When starting a new game can you guys make it so the the cheats and the console controls can’t be accessed ever in that one game. I find it very hard to not mess with those kinds of stuff due to the convenance of altering time and my own restraint.

Take out the F1 key from your keyboard. That should work!

 

[Haidrgna]

Spears have quality and accept mods, so no them breaking would enrage people who invested so much in their spear.

I am sure Gazz can sneak in some stackable non quality easy to make javelins from xml. As an alternative to the early game bow but not as great investment as an actual spear. Can make the spears a bit more expensive to craft even then..

 

[Zombiepoptard]

When a new player joins my game they have a hard time getting over to where I’m at. I don’t like fast traveling but a one time fast travel would be nice for not wasting time looking for your buddy. One time teleport to friends bed.

 

[MechanicalLens]

When a new player joins my game they have a hard time getting over to where I’m at. I don’t like fast traveling but a one time fast travel would be nice for not wasting time looking for your buddy. One time teleport to friends bed.

Accept the party invite/send one out and have your friend accept one, go into DM mode, go to the map, locate your friend's location, hold down Shift and right click where you want to be teleported to.

 

[unholyjoe]

if server owner, you can try to adjust the spawnpoints.xml to a safe spot or meeting area

 

[MajorMunchy]

if server owner, you can try to adjust the spawnpoints.xml to a safe spot or meeting area

Can't they have an option to setspawnpoint or something? Pretty sure a lot of games have that in the XML already

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omg im stupid and re read that LOL

 

[meganoth]

I was comparing the bicycle speed with the way I ride the bicycle in real life

Got me curious, so I really checked if madmoles claim of 22mph was correct. This is based on a block size of 1 m (which is the official assumption AFAIK and checks out with sizes in the game, for example the height of people and the map size).

I used a bike in 7D2D and drove in a straight line for 30 seconds (my stamina didn't last any longer). Was 300m from my starting point. 300m/30seconds is 36km/h is ~22mph.

It seems madmole was comparing to reality too when he said the bike is fast. Can you keep up 35km/h for 30 seconds with a normal bike?