So, you want over-abundance of crops ?? Whatever the reason (illness, shortage, radiation ...) we need a world where resources are scarce. And for those who want an adventure in a world of opulence, the creative menu is wide open.
By that same token argument, if you really want a world devoid of abundant resources the XMLs are wide open. How's about we stop blasting the other side and just agree to request these things as options instead of core game mechanics?
It's a survival game. My request was for the developers, not for the players who don't care about survival. But thank you for your advice: if the devs leave these fields as they are, I will remove the buildings concerned.
I'm well aware. It just feels to me like all the arguments for and against spoilage and food balance is, "The game needs to be this way by default because I want survival to be more hardcore!" or, "The game needs to be this way by default because I hate micro-managing resources!" Options to tweak things are already available via XMLs, which are dirt easy to modify, and I feel like both sides could win easily if we argued for things like spoilage as options, rather than long-winded arguments about how we think others should play "our" game.
Plants vs Zombies is a different game.
I would like to see most foods come with a very slight buff that would apply until you ate again or became hungry/thirsty. It would allow you to prepare when you travel rather than just going out with standard gear and a different jacket. Food for fighting (maybe health), heat, cold etc.
it would be like the stews in requiem (if you ever played that mod).The question is no if the system is more complex or adds something to do but what behaviors would it change and, tbh, if food spoiled I would do almost nothing different. I already have a farm that is capable of producing enough veg stews to last until the next harvest cycle. The only real difference is I would harvest more often rather than cooking my food in larger batches.Thanks for proving our point. It is easy to gain a surplus, no argument. Preserving that surplus to use months later for yummy home made soup during the winter is what food spoilage is all about. It is the quest for preservation and not that we want to see disappearing stacks of food.
I get it. We all get food preservation for free right now. It's tough for some to give up what they already get for free and have to earn it. It's like the difference in building a base with the creative menu enabled vs disabled. With the creative menu on you can have all the blocks you need for free. With it off you have to gather resources and craft the blocks. Right now food preservation is "creative menu enabled."
In some parallel universe the game has no other option for building except having the creative menu enabled and players just get whatever they need. Other players suggest turning that off and adding things like trees and rocks and ore that would have to be harvested to gather the mats and then players would have to craft the blocks. Those players are then told,
"Adding that stuff would add very little value to the game" or
"Who wants to micromanage the blocks we use to build with?" or
"Stop trying to add artificial difficulty. If we will get the blocks eventually through gathering and harvesting we might as well get them like we do now" and the favorite...
"If TFP adds the need to harvest and gather materials and then forces us to craft our own blocks that will be the first thing I mod out the moment that patch releases!"
Nice summary of ideas. What everyone seems to be forgetting is that we have **exponentially** growing seed crafting in the game. Remove that and a lot of the overabundance of food is gone. Just make it so you can't craft seeds from your own plants.
I think Acquisitor was only challenging the last sentence of your post where you said "that makes no sense in a devastated world", i.e. you were not talking about game balance but compared it to your expectation of what is realistic.
Food spoilage would of course require crop spoilage as well. Just wrap the stages so that the final stage returns to seedling stage if you don’t harvest the plants. So if you harvest you need to store, and if you miss the harvest window you have to wait until it comes back around again.
