JaxTeller718
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Today has been ALL about end game my friend
PC Alpha 18 Dev Diary!!
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Death2gnomes
Tester
you mean 6-10 hours. really you do.
Guppycur
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Doesn't make a difference; at some point you gotta as a business, develop a model. The successful model is the one that targets the largest demographic.
It is what it is.
I don't think I /could/ play vanilla for more than 20-30 hours (Which is what he said his target was)... but I also think MM is undercutting it. At 60 minute days he's looking at 3 to 4 blood moons, and we already KNOW, just by the design of leveled loot and gamestages, that the pimps are targeting for more.
Roland
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The game has been in early access for going on six years. Rushing the game out? Flipping games? I think some of you need to look up “rushing” and “flipping”.
It WAS fun to daydream and speculate about all the potential content that could be added but honestly most of that was way beyond the promised features anyway. Now the game is at its end and all the “maybe we can add that” comments must necessarily change to “no”.
Modding is the future of the game. What’s wrong with that?
And what’s up with petty and snide remarks about showing art assets for A18 as if that is the only thing they are going to do?
Madmole has been saying unpolitically correct stuff for years. If you are an easily offended person then beware. He was telling it like it is as he sees it and not intending to insult anyone.
It’s MADMOLE....
They are planning on adding everything from the Kickstarter list including bandits. What other endgame content was anyone expecting based on the Kickstarter goals for the game?
It WAS fun to daydream and speculate about all the potential content that could be added but honestly most of that was way beyond the promised features anyway. Now the game is at its end and all the “maybe we can add that” comments must necessarily change to “no”.
Modding is the future of the game. What’s wrong with that?
And what’s up with petty and snide remarks about showing art assets for A18 as if that is the only thing they are going to do?
Madmole has been saying unpolitically correct stuff for years. If you are an easily offended person then beware. He was telling it like it is as he sees it and not intending to insult anyone.
It’s MADMOLE....
They are planning on adding everything from the Kickstarter list including bandits. What other endgame content was anyone expecting based on the Kickstarter goals for the game?
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Subquake
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You should totally consider future DLCs for the game once it does go gold.
One of the things that I would love to see as a DLC would be a settlement system and survivor NPCs, that you can rescue, take care of, feed, equip gear and post them as guards or make them patrol your base and have an option to make one of them follow you and help you out in adventures.
Another thing (worthy of a DLC, idk?) would be so that you have to craft only one block, then select the shape you want in a similar fashion how you select different paints. Empyrion game has a very well made example, how it could be implemented. I know you guys started to work on that feature, but it was too much and you scrapped it, but it would be a huge quality of life improvement to all builders out there, that love 7 days to die because of the building aspect in the game, that's why there are people with 3000 or more hours of gameplay, because it's a sandbox game, where imagination is the limit.
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Royal Deluxe
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There are simply borders most modders cant cross.
So i hope we get at least decent NPC´s (inclusive voices) and some more trigger for quests and buffs (like break block x, manipulate lootabundance) and not to forget the ability to make a huge storeroom for a vehicle, 90 Slots is simply not enough for some kinds of mods
But i dont hope for all until gold, i hope for DLC´s. And i dont mean "M16 DLC 3.95€"
khzmusik
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I play vanilla, and I'm definitely concerned. ("Upset" maybe not.)
I do see this trend in MM's posts where he's comparing TFP to a company like Bethesda, or 7D2D to AAA titles. I really hope that thinking goes away soon.
7D2D isn't Fallout, and TFP are not Bethesda. TFP can do better than that. They are doing better than that. I hope they keep aiming higher.
Roland
Moderator
Madmole has said in the past they plan to continue to support the game for at least two years beyond gold release. They are trying to be done with early access and have a strong core game that is optimized and shippable as a finsished product. They are not trying to be done adding content to the game. The game will get content and it will cater to the 1000+ hours fan. But the vanilla default game they are trying to finish is what Madmole is talking about needing to cater to the mass market.
I’m not worried at all. Of course, I also already know what is planned for the first post gold DLC.
For all the lurkers, don’t get worried because a few prominent people are freaking out about nothing and choosing to get offended by a matter of fact business oriented statement by one of the owners who tells it like it is.
I’m not worried at all. Of course, I also already know what is planned for the first post gold DLC.
For all the lurkers, don’t get worried because a few prominent people are freaking out about nothing and choosing to get offended by a matter of fact business oriented statement by one of the owners who tells it like it is.
wiggleslap
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Hi Roland - I have behaved myself on the forums.... That BAN wegie was worse than getting caught without car insurance. "Car commercial from texas if you don't get it". I have figured it out - Roland is the TFP's attorney in 2027 - when TFP are sued because the apocalypse happened - because - 7 Days To Die caused the entire system to shut down and - TFP know the zombie code......Madmole has said in the past they plan to continue to support the game for at least two years beyond gold release. They are trying to be done with early access and have a strong core game that is optimized and shippable as a finsished product. They are not trying to be done adding content to the game. The game will get content and it will cater to the 1000+ hours fan. But the vanilla default game they are trying to finish is what Madmole is talking about needing to cater to the mass market.
I’m not worried at all. Of course, I also already know what is planned for the first post gold DLC.
Demonoid74
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I have over 200 hours play time and never once even looked at mods...then again , I only play till day 20-30 at first , for A7-11...then A12+ I usually play till day 50-70 , A17 I am at day 93....but haven't logged back in . I usually only play each alpha for awhile to get used to it , see the changes , etc.
I would definitely hope for SOME official "end game" content...after its official gold and launched...or even DLC...
Maybe...after its launched , I might try some mods...or even make my own for what I want to do...until then , not really interested in them at all...
I would definitely hope for SOME official "end game" content...after its official gold and launched...or even DLC...
Maybe...after its launched , I might try some mods...or even make my own for what I want to do...until then , not really interested in them at all...
wiggleslap
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I just gave them an "End Game" starter...... The world ended and TFP - 7 Days to Die is to blame because they hold the key to the zombie breakout and - yes - "Roland is taking dirty money as their attorney in 2027" - Fiction or Non-fiction? Hmmmmmmm.
Madmole is on the run - because he injected himself with the last functional code of 7 Days To Die that created the apocalypse and if he is apprehended "Boss Mode" and more story base - his body needs to be kept alive and the code extracted, but only the most super of super computers could break the code - and where Is that computer located? We don't know - madmole has never disclosed that location and - Roland the attorney that has been paid over 7 trillion dollars is nowhere to be found.....
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Blake_
Captain Obvious
I can answer that disregarding kickstarter goals:
Building blueprints,Followers, npc colonies, Single player campaign, Lore and quests at the level of Oblivion's Dark brotherhood.
EDIT: Also "death is death with player purchasable lifes options"
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Louie04k
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So in other words turn this game into another crap generic zombie game? Yea ok thats totally what i thought this game would turn into when i started playing a8. You enjoy getting afew more sales from kids who play fortnite while your MAIN demographic, us hardcore gamers who have been here supporting you guys for YEARS, leave for something else. With a17 you tore down what made 7 days to die so great. Sure some things had some nice polish, but you completely took a poop on the rest and gutted it from the game. Now all you have done is given yourselfs as bad rep with your biggest fans.
I have 1800 hours into 7 days, and put almost 200 hours in most alphas (i would have double if i didnt hold myself back for the final release), i played 15 hours of alpha 17 you know why? Because the game is GARBAGE now. But now iv put over 100 hours in it because some talented modders over at Ravenhearst actually made the game good again, with depth, and passion, and you cant even give them credit where its due. It seems like you guys aspire to be like Bethesda of late, who require modders to make their games actually good. And even then (FO4/FO76) thats debatible because their games suck that much. Ill make sure not to buy 6 copies of your next game because its obviously not meant for me, its meant for some fortnite kid who wants 5 hours of fun. Instead of destroying what made people fall in love with the game in the first place, build on it.
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Odetta
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I always thought building a settlement with NPC's would be an awesome end game goal. You'd make your own faction to rival the Duke and White River. As the founder of the feast you would in charge of every aspect, like you suggested. Then you'd get attacked by zombos or raiders or setting up a trade deal with White River. I can see some not liking it though, as it conflicts with the "last man on earth" fantasy, well you and the trader.
Almost like Rimworld but not insane.
stallionsden
Tester
oh someone makes a whisperer mod and makes bandits wear zombie skins lol.......... :-/
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