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Shumi said:
Rude, it’s a female avatar. I’m going to give you a knuckle rub.

Yes, I can also see you also enjoy the finer things in life. We shall become great mates; I can tell.

Tho your moves won’t have any affect on me as I’m lesbian. Sorry mate.
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A person who is physically female who has Snowdog immunity? Count your blessings. 😂

 
@Roland Would you mind posting a thorough explanation on the intention of this thread, and what will be and not be acceptable within it? (ie someone sharing their base might get said post moved to images and videos, or not, unless this thread exists as a dumping ground.)

Perhaps to keep things neater, just my suggestion, this thread should only contain A19 discussions and anything that doesn't fit into that box can be deposited in a currently non-existent thread dedicated to "disposing of the trash".

For example, the post above ("I'm the Party Pooper") has no relevancy when it comes to A19, or 7D2D for that matter. However, it is insignificant enough to deserve its own thread under Images and Videos. Should such posts be deleted, or again, does this thread exist as a waste disposal site for anything miscellaneous as well being the location for the majority of A19 talk?

 
Roland said:
What stays is predominately direct questions to the developers and direct comments and reactions to what the developers say.
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What I assume by "reactions to what developers say" are posts that provide legitimate constructive criticism, a point, or a question from a post that a developer has released in the A20 dev diary. The reaction emojis exist for a reason; a simple bit of praise alone do not contribute to the parent post and would only serve as clutter for others to sift through. No-one wants to see another user praise a new zombie design, especially if they do not have a lot of spare time on their hands, unless it's feedback that adds value to the original post. Am I correct in my assumption?

Any questions you can answer would be appreciated. What I am attempting to accomplish here is create a stronger mutual understanding between moderator and standard forum user.

 
MechanicalLens said:
@Roland Would you mind posting a thorough explanation on the intention of this thread, and what will be and not be acceptable within it? (ie someone sharing their base might get said post moved to images and videos, or not, unless this thread exists as a dumping ground.)

Perhaps to keep things neater, just my suggestion, this thread should only contain A19 discussions and anything that doesn't fit into that box can be deposited in a currently non-existent thread dedicated to "disposing of the trash".

For example, the post above ("I'm the Party Pooper") has no relevancy when it comes to A19, or 7D2D for that matter. However, it is insignificant enough to deserve its own thread under Images and Videos. Should such posts be deleted, or again, does this thread exist as a waste disposal site for anything miscellaneous as well being the location for the majority of A19 talk?
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It’s pretty simple. Direct conversations with the developers stay. The developers set the tone. If Madmole wants to talk about base design then base design posts stay. If you have a question for the devs then post it. If they answer and you want to answer back....great. 
 

Don’t worry about what others post. If the mods and devs feel it can stay then it will and if we want it moved we will. All you need to worry about is asking questions you want answers to and responding to them if they respond to you. 
 

Nobody is in trouble here and I don’t anticipate giving out infractions or bans for this. I’m simply letting people know that I’ll be cleaning out conversations that don’t involve the devs directly.

 
Roland said:
It’s pretty simple. Direct conversations with the developers stay. The developers set the tone. If Madmole wants to talk about base design then base design posts stay. If you have a question for the devs then post it. If they answer and you want to answer back....great. 
 

Don’t worry about what others post. If the mods and devs feel it can stay then it will and if we want it moved we will. All you need to worry about is asking questions you want answers to and responding to them if they respond to you. 
 

Nobody is in trouble here and I don’t anticipate giving out infractions or bans for this. I’m simply letting people know that I’ll be cleaning out conversations that don’t involve the devs directly.
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Understood.

On a side note, perhaps to save yourself and other moderators time you could impose a system on the A20 dev diary where every post made by a standard forum user must come under moderation approval before it's released publicly (or moved or simply deleted)? But then again if you see this suggestion creating more trouble than its worth, then by all means move on from this reply. In Pimps We Trust.

I am grateful for the lack of consequences, but this is little excuse. The truth is Roland is in order to keep a machine working properly you have to monitor it with an iron fist and not a soft pair of mittens. Don't take this as a challenge, just something you may want to keep in mind lest the A20 dev diary ends up becoming a clusterfudge must like previous dev diaries. Think about it.

 
MechanicalLens said:
What I assume by "reactions to what developers say" are posts that provide legitimate constructive criticism, a point, or a question from a post that a developer has released in the A20 dev diary. The reaction emojis exist for a reason; a simple bit of praise alone do not contribute to the parent post and would only serve as clutter for others to sift through. No-one wants to see another user praise a new zombie design, especially if they do not have a lot of spare time on their hands, unless it's feedback that adds value to the original post. Am I correct in my assumption?

Any questions you can answer would be appreciated. What I am attempting to accomplish here is create a stronger mutual understanding between moderator and standard forum user.
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No. The devs are fine with hearing feedback to their announcements. You’re trying to hard to make this some kind of actionable infraction. I certainly don’t want you to send ten reports if 10 people post their praise/worries/criticism of something revealed by Madmole. 
 

Best is to just ignore what others post and the mods will move them out if we feel it’s warranted. 

Everything will be moved here. I’m not going to take time to sort posts into different buckets. Here they can be read and commented upon and discussed further. The only posts that will be deleted are spam or that break the rules such as flaming, doom and gloom, or being abusive if others. 

 
As for myself, I am a creature of habit. This also means I am adaptable, and adapt I shall, if I have not already. If not, all I ask is you give me time to adjust. I'll fit right in soon enough, again, unless I already have. We'll have to wait and see, won't we?

Roland said:
No. The devs are fine with hearing feedback to their announcements. You’re trying to hard to make this some kind of actionable infraction. I certainly don’t want you to send ten reports if 10 people post their praise/worries/criticism of something revealed by Madmole. 
 

Best is to just ignore what others post and the mods will move them out if we feel it’s warranted. 

Everything will be moved here. I’m not going to take time to sort posts into different buckets. Here they can be read and commented upon and discussed further. The only posts that will be deleted are spam or that break the rules such as flaming, doom and gloom, or being abusive if others. 
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Understood. Again, my sole intention here is to make sure we're all on the same page. Yes, I'll throw my opinions in there occasionally, but those can be simply ignored. :)

Instead, just take that as a piece of advice for other users rather than as me "attempting to enforce rules". Anyone typing in "this is a fantastic new zombie design" could be summarized with a heart reaction. :)

Nonetheless, I'll leave my trust with you and TFP. Have a good one.

 
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MechanicalLens said:
Understood.

On a side note, perhaps to save yourself and other moderators time you could impose a system on the A20 dev diary where every post made by a standard forum user must come under moderation approval before it's released publicly (or moved or simply deleted)? But then again if you see this suggestion creating more trouble than its worth, then by all means move on from this reply. In Pimps We Trust.

I am grateful for the lack of consequences, but this is little excuse. The truth is Roland is in order to keep a machine working properly you have to monitor it with an iron fist and not a soft pair of mittens. Don't take this as a challenge, just something you may want to keep in mind lest the A20 dev diary ends up becoming a clusterfudge must like previous dev diaries. Think about it.
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Ive been cleaning it out once or twice per day. That might seem like soft mittens to someone who is checking the dev diary every 5 minutes but for those who check in every few days the dev diary will appear uncluttered and that is fine for me because I am really doing this for the benefit of the developers to be able to easily see the relevant posts for them and they are not checking every 5 minutes. 
 

Approving every post would be more work and also kill the freedom of posting. It is simple for me as I read to check and then mass move anything out. This way people can make their comments  even their jokes without being stifled. They just need to know that it won’t be staying in the dev diary for long. 
 

Im not really worried about it Mech. It’s definitely something I’m not going to smite people over. 

 
Roland said:
Ive been cleaning it out once or twice per day. That might seem like soft mittens to someone who is checking the dev diary every 5 minutes but for those who check in every few days the dev diary will appear uncluttered and that is fine for me because I am really doing this for the benefit of the developers to be able to easily see the relevant posts for them and they are not checking every 5 minutes. 
 

Approving every post would be more work and also kill the freedom of posting. It is simple for me as I read to check and then mass move anything out. This way people can make their comments  even their jokes without being stifled. They just need to know that it won’t be staying in the dev diary for long. 
 

Im not really worried about it Mech. It’s definitely something I’m not going to smite people over. 
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Understood. Forgive me for being rather, shall we say, picky? I want to make it perfectly clear that I do not believe you cannot do your job. By the looks of things, everything is running quiet smoothly, especially nowadays. But one thing you have to know about me, if it isn't abundantly clear already, is that I believe in order above all things. Of course though, personality is allowed to wriggle through; I'm not used to that, but I am slowly adapting in that regard. :)  No offense was intended, so I hope we can walk away from this with some solid bridges connected that were not there before.

I've also just realized that I am very much nearing my 3,000 post milestone. 😄 Nothing remarkable, and some of my posts can be sorted into the quantity category rather than quality, but it's something for me to pop the metaphorical champagne bottle over nonetheless. 😄

 
Just a head's up, earlier today I was at Day 25, unkilled, permadeath, Warrior difficulty doing very well. But I got a bug where my entire keyboard would not respond no matter what combination of keys I tried to use, including alt-tab, ctrl alt delete, the windows button, etc. Tried holding the power button, wouldn't shut down. Tried closing the laptop, it couldnt suspend 7 days to die. I was stuck sprinting forward, and nothing else would respond, sprinting forward was something I could not cease nor grasp any control over. My last resort was to pull out my Laptop's battery. Upon reopening steam I found that my world had been entirely deleted or corrupted or something, but I cannot create a new navezgane world with the same map name. It is red as though my world still existed and I could still continue it, but it's not in the Continue Game list of worlds. The only other game this has ever happened to me on is Mist Survival. Needless to say I guess it's time for a 7 days to die break, clearly the game didn't like my undying success lol. Shame, I was really invested.

 
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Promethean Winchester said:
Just a head's up, earlier today I was at Day 25, unkilled, permadeath, Warrior difficulty doing very well. But I got a bug where my entire keyboard would not respond no matter what combination of keys I tried to use, including alt-tab, ctrl alt delete, the windows button, etc. Tried holding the power button, wouldn't shut down. Tried closing the laptop, it couldnt suspend 7 days to die. I was stuck sprinting forward, and nothing else would respond, sprinting forward was something I could not cease nor grasp any control over. My last resort was to pull out my Laptop's battery. Upon reopening steam I found that my world had been entirely deleted or corrupted or something, but I cannot create a new navezgane world with the same map name. It is red as though my world still existed and I could still continue it, but it's not in the Continue Game list of worlds. The only other game this has ever happened to me on is Mist Survival. Needless to say I guess it's time for a 7 days to die break, clearly the game didn't like my undying success lol. Shame, I was really invested.
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This sounds like a hardware/ OS issue, not a game issue. If you forced your machine to shutdown I would expect your save to be corrupted if it were in the middle of accessing it.

 
Promethean Winchester said:
Just a head's up, earlier today I was at Day 25, unkilled, permadeath, Warrior difficulty doing very well. But I got a bug where my entire keyboard would not respond no matter what combination of keys I tried to use, including alt-tab, ctrl alt delete, the windows button, etc. Tried holding the power button, wouldn't shut down. Tried closing the laptop, it couldnt suspend 7 days to die. I was stuck sprinting forward, and nothing else would respond, sprinting forward was something I could not cease nor grasp any control over. My last resort was to pull out my Laptop's battery. Upon reopening steam I found that my world had been entirely deleted or corrupted or something, but I cannot create a new navezgane world with the same map name. It is red as though my world still existed and I could still continue it, but it's not in the Continue Game list of worlds. The only other game this has ever happened to me on is Mist Survival. Needless to say I guess it's time for a 7 days to die break, clearly the game didn't like my undying success lol. Shame, I was really invested.
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I have read other people having a similar problem with saves showing in the save game folder in app data but not appearing in the continue game menu like their file type got corrupted somehow and the game doesn't recognize it as a saved game. Go to your saved games folders in windows and see if it is still there even though it isn't showing up anymore in the continue game menu. If it is, you should submit a bug report.

 
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MechanicalLens said:
@madmole One of my several critiques with the crafting of steroids, and I feel this one is the most important, is that you need to have Intellect at 8/10 and Physician at 3/4 in order to craft them. Once you get a bicycle, steroids are obsolete, so any player wouldn't have any trouble acquiring some mode of transportation long before they reach this point in the Intellect tree, and even if not so, they could use those points to unlock the bicycle and the workbench and still have points left over. Considering that testosterone extract is a key crafting ingredient already - a rare and dangerous resource to collect from its host - and that steroids are, to my knowledge, only useful for so long, perhaps removing any crafting gate would be beneficial. The road is a long and situational one already - I don't see locking them behind a metaphorical steel cage serves any meaningful purpose, if people would craft them anyway. Just my thoughts.
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I never actually thought about it. I never use the steroids because I always have a motorcycle first. You are correct sir! I agree.

 
MechanicalLens said:
One of my several critiques with the crafting of steroids, and I feel this one is the most important, is that you need to have Intellect at 8/10 and Physician at 3/4 in order to craft them. Once you get a bicycle, steroids are obsolete, so any player wouldn't have any trouble acquiring some mode of transportation long before they reach this point in the Intellect tree, and even if not so, they could use those points to unlock the bicycle and the workbench and still have points left over. Considering that testosterone extract is a key crafting ingredient already - a rare and dangerous resource to collect from its host - and that steroids are, to my knowledge, only useful for so long, perhaps removing any crafting gate would be beneficial. The road is a long and situational one already - I don't see locking them behind a metaphorical steel cage serves any meaningful purpose, if people would craft them anyway. Just my thoughts.
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Yeah i noticed this too, roids are great for early game where encumberment is a major issue, but are only craftable late game when you have far better ways to curcumvent that issue.

I initially thought they boosted melee damage so hoarded them, along with testosterone, when i could finally craft them i was pretty disappointed that they are really just early game QoL boosts as opposed to late game power multipliers. They should probably get reworked with something else taking their place. Could be a good use for a candy?

 
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