PC A18 Streamer Weekend is here!

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Well damn, this interferes with the plan to get my first ONI asteroid colony launching a space ship.

Duplicantes might suffocate..

 
That's provocative Guppy, I'm not naming and shaming. It's easy to check who is doing it. I just think it's a bit rich I can't play but others not on the list can play and have the hide to stream it as well.

 
Well it's not naming and shaming, it's calling them out so Roland can fix it, but your call, idc. The terms are soooo incredibly loose I'm surprised no one has posted the code yet.

 
The streamer in question agreed to shut down his stream. Developers can actually email Twitch and request streams shut down if they are of a closed beta which technically this is until it opens to the public on Monday. So please let me know if you see unauthorized streams and we will contact and warn and then go through Twitch if necessary.

We understand the frustration of not being able to play and then seeing someone else doing so dishonestly. We will strive to keep people to the rules as much as possible and appreciate any help we can get in that regard.

 
The streamer in question agreed to shut down his stream. Developers can actually email Twitch and request streams shut down if they are of a closed beta which technically this is until it opens to the public on Monday. So please let me know if you see unauthorized streams and we will contact and warn and then go through Twitch if necessary.
We understand the frustration of not being able to play and then seeing someone else doing so dishonestly. We will strive to keep people to the rules as much as possible and appreciate any help we can get in that regard.
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yeahhhhh

 
The streamer in question agreed to shut down his stream. Developers can actually email Twitch and request streams shut down if they are of a closed beta which technically this is until it opens to the public on Monday. So please let me know if you see unauthorized streams and we will contact and warn and then go through Twitch if necessary.
We understand the frustration of not being able to play and then seeing someone else doing so dishonestly. We will strive to keep people to the rules as much as possible and appreciate any help we can get in that regard.
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This Guy offered to sell me a key for the price of my innocence and virtue. Turns out I didn't have any of that currency, whatever it is. I say banish him to the wasteland.

I'll message you with my steam ID to collect my reward key for snitching.

 
Too bad it wasn't Trader Rekt. I've been looking to get something on him since forever. I hate that guy.

 
Let me clarify that for you.
The pathing and zombie AI was vastly improved so that zombies would no longer spin in circles and get stuck on terrain decorations and blocks. This meant that they could "see" long pathways leading to the player and would always choose the cheapest pathway. In 17.0 we got the first version of this which made them seem very smart and cunning. This was not the intended end behavior for them however. Many of the behaviors exhibited would be appropriate for human bandits so in that sense the raw pathing system was something that would work for zombies and bandits with zombies needing a lot of dumbing down from the raw perfect information state and bandits probably needing just a little dumbing down.

So Sylen was correct that this pathing in its raw form was also preliminary work for bandits which the developers also would not want to get stuck on terrain or to spin in circles. As Alpha 17 progressed the pathing and AI was "dumbed down" somewhat and randomized behaviors introduced in order to obfuscate the perfect knowledge they were exhibiting. There has been some additional work done in this regard for A18.

Bandits will probably need less "dumbing down" than the zombies but they will also have their own AI routines that will allow them to coordinate with each other, seek cover, retreat, etc. which are behaviors not associated with zombies at all. So in this sense the zombie AI we have now is different than the ones the bandits will have.

There will not be a toggle for the zombies because the pathing they employ is necessary to keep them from getting stuck and spinning in circles etc. Instead TFP will continue to refine them so that the fact that they have perfect knowledge of where you are and how to get to you is more hidden and doesn't always emerge. That is, in fact, the art of AI: giving the computer opponent perfect knowledge and then causing it to still make "mistakes" in a way that appears natural.

There probably won't be a toggle for digging either as it is integrated into the pathing system and not just a separate task that zombies can or can't do.
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Okay, thank you for clarifying.

 
The streamer in question agreed to shut down his stream. Developers can actually email Twitch and request streams shut down if they are of a closed beta which technically this is until it opens to the public on Monday. So please let me know if you see unauthorized streams and we will contact and warn and then go through Twitch if necessary.
We understand the frustration of not being able to play and then seeing someone else doing so dishonestly. We will strive to keep people to the rules as much as possible and appreciate any help we can get in that regard.
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Pimp hand is developing nicely...

 
Well it's not naming and shaming, it's calling them out so Roland can fix it, but your call, idc. The terms are soooo incredibly loose I'm surprised no one has posted the code yet.
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I'm personally just wanting the xml files to get stuff set up before its released lol

 
anybody know which of these Streamers shows something about RWG ?

(maybe ingame-map or world-previewer or prefab-editor)

thx in advance

 
Reworking of POIs into more dungeon like was a basis to see how people liked the idea and now even more are reworked in the same manner, but also little POIs, as well as almost empty ones are being added.
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I’m curious to see how far they end up taking the RPG elements. I’d love to see more variation in loot. It sounds like they are leaning in that direction for a18 which makes me happy.

 
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