4.0 A new threat update - Bandits?

Why shouldn't we? Kickstarter dictated they will, they already have NPCs; all they "need" to do to get them in is to lower their expectations of their AI. Copy-paste zombie behaviour, done.

They'll be in, eventually .. whether you'll like them, well... ;)
(sure, I wouldn't be surprised if they need a few more alphas for it :P )
 
When TFP released two versions of the bandit raid in a row, I lost all hope. Patience always runs out, especially mine. And now, I automatically ignore any mention of the bandit raid in TFP's content. lol
 
Do you all remember the initial bandit announcement? A14 told us there would be bandits in A15, then there was a delay in A15, A16, A17, A18, A19, A20, A21, V1.0, and V2.0. So, a delay in V3.0 is perfectly normal.
 
Blue mame said:
Do you all remember the initial bandit announcement? A14 told us there would be bandits in A15, then there was a delay in A15, A16, A17, A18, A19, A20, A21, V1.0, and V2.0. So, a delay in V3.0 is perfectly normal.
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Well, they did try bandits at one point. Someone who was around back then will have to say which alpha that was in. Or possibly it was only in the internal testing versions. But they didn't work well and were removed pretty quickly from what I understand. So they decided to postpone them until they could improve the bandits to something worth having in the game and add in additional features and mechanics to make them work better in the game. They are ready to start implementing them and getting their AI working the way they feel is good, so they are at the point to where they are going to add them.

Now, I wasn't around at the time the bandits were initially being set up. After the point where they decided they weren't good enough and put them on hold, did they continue to say bandits would be in the next alpha? I know they weren't saying that as of A20 when I started to play the game. They only gave a version for bandits when the roadmap was released for 1.0 and that was to have bandits in 3.0. Even though they changed version numbers so that bandits are 4.0, 3.0 isn't even out yet, so based on the version they said, there was no expectation of having bandits anywhere between A20 and 3.0. Yes, the timeframe for updates was pushed back, and yes, they changed 2.7 to 3.0 and 3.0 to 4.0 (really dumb idea, imo), but the end result is that what was originally 3.0 is still bandits and still planned (I'm expecting a delay) to be done by the end of the year.

So all the complaints that they keep pushing bandits back when they weren't even saying that bandits would be released in any specific version before the announcement about 3.0 since at least A20 is kind of dumb. If they kept saying the next version and then said that it was pushed to the next version and so on, then that would be cause for complaining about being pushed back. When they just said they aren't coming yet and then eventually said 3.0, that's an entirely different thing.

Personally, I'm not even interested in bandits. I'll give them a try and see if they are worth having in the game, but I have a strong feeling that I'll end up disabling them either through a game option if there is one or else through a mod. I play this game for zombies, not bandits. If I want to fight bandits, there are plenty of other games that I'd prefer to play for that.
 
Riamus said:
Well, they did try bandits at one point... But they didn't work well and were removed pretty quickly from what I understand. So they decided to postpone them until they could improve the bandits to something worth having in the game and add in additional features and mechanics to make them work better in the game.
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Would that also be the bandits we're seeing in overhaul mods, perchance? If so, I don't blame them for taking them out until they had someone on staff who could implement them properly.
 
We already have bandits Behaviour Interactive 💀
Now we’re just waiting for a story mode to see how it all started.💀
But honestly, 3.0 looks so good I don’t think I’ll even miss them that much. I’ve been waiting years for bandits, but I think I’m actually more excited for 3.0 because I’ll finally be able to play the way I want.
With all the options we’re getting, it’s going to completely change the game I really can’t wait for it.
For me it feels like a totally new experience, and I feel like I’ll have fun in a way I’ve never had in this game before. Honestly, it might end up being the best update the game has ever had, at least for me.
Would be nice if we got some info about 3.0 soon.🙏
 
frankly if they never implement bandits i wouldn't be sad. while the idea of "living" npcs sounds good the hassle of what is just zombies but with added ethical problems ain't my bag
 
warmer said:
Why should any of us believe that Bandits will be showing up?

Seriously guys, you have exhausted every ounce of goodwill you once had with your community.

Gaslight us some more please...

My Stockholm syndrome isn't fully locked in yet
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No matter how much they scammed the community, there are still people left who defend them no matter what ))
 
Riamus said:
Well, they did try bandits at one point. Someone who was around back then will have to say which alpha that was in. Or possibly it was only in the internal testing versions. But they didn't work well and were removed pretty quickly from what I understand. So they decided to postpone them until they could improve the bandits to something worth having in the game and add in additional features and mechanics to make them work better in the game. They are ready to start implementing them and getting their AI working the way they feel is good, so they are at the point to where they are going to add them.

Now, I wasn't around at the time the bandits were initially being set up. After the point where they decided they weren't good enough and put them on hold, did they continue to say bandits would be in the next alpha? I know they weren't saying that as of A20 when I started to play the game. They only gave a version for bandits when the roadmap was released for 1.0 and that was to have bandits in 3.0. Even though they changed version numbers so that bandits are 4.0, 3.0 isn't even out yet, so based on the version they said, there was no expectation of having bandits anywhere between A20 and 3.0. Yes, the timeframe for updates was pushed back, and yes, they changed 2.7 to 3.0 and 3.0 to 4.0 (really dumb idea, imo), but the end result is that what was originally 3.0 is still bandits and still planned (I'm expecting a delay) to be done by the end of the year.

So all the complaints that they keep pushing bandits back when they weren't even saying that bandits would be released in any specific version before the announcement about 3.0 since at least A20 is kind of dumb. If they kept saying the next version and then said that it was pushed to the next version and so on, then that would be cause for complaining about being pushed back. When they just said they aren't coming yet and then eventually said 3.0, that's an entirely different thing.

Personally, I'm not even interested in bandits. I'll give them a try and see if they are worth having in the game, but I have a strong feeling that I'll end up disabling them either through a game option if there is one or else through a mod. I play this game for zombies, not bandits. If I want to fight bandits, there are plenty of other games that I'd prefer to play for that.
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Correct. Bandits were at exactly one time presumably announced or even included in an alpha version. I think It was shortly before I started playing in A15 so if they ever were in a public version I just had missed them. But a friend of mine who started earlier than me with the game says they never were in an alpha, they could only be seen in mods.

After that there was never an announcement they would be in any coming version. Just some mention that they would be eventually in the game. If you saw some definite prediction of release then it most likely came from a streamer who interpreted too much into some noncomittal words.
 
ALEXZANDER said:
No matter how much they scammed the community, there are still people left who defend them no matter what ))
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and there are those who make up stuff whom has no idea on game development to look like they know what they are talking bout..
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meganoth said:
Correct. Bandits were at exactly one time presumably announced or even included in an alpha version. I think It was shortly before I started playing in A15 so if they ever were in a public version I just had missed them. But a friend of mine who started earlier than me with the game says they never were in an alpha, they could only be seen in mods.

After that there was never an announcement they would be in any coming version. Just some mention that they would be eventually in the game. If you saw some definite prediction of release then it most likely came from a streamer who interpreted too much into some noncomittal words.
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They were implemented in a16 then removed due to them not being happy with them.

Atm i would rather they get them properly integrated and added and not some slop/ Act like bandits not zombies.. Stupid to have bandits that are just glorified zs..
 
ALEXZANDER said:
We've heard these fairy tales over 1000 times throughout the 8 years since the release of fantastic (no) alpha 17
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fairytales... lol no a16 we had bandits, they were pulled and tfp stated they be back after some systems that were needed were implemented that were needed to make the bandits better then what we got in a16. .they never said we have bandits for a17, a18, a19 a20 .
 
ALEXZANDER said:
No lol, they werent fully implemented in to the game world
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You went from saying tfp have promised bandits forever to now they implemented them in a16 lol..
I know for a fact they were in a16, a16.1, a16.2 icr a16.3 and a16.4 i believe also and then removed..
I then did the first bandits mod of the game..
But lets focus on what you said then back tracked..
I needed a laugh thanks
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Double G said:
Bandits were never implemented. They were in the game and could be spawned in debug mode, but were not part of an active spawning group. They also caused an error if you shot or melee’d them.
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Imma have to go back and see..

but they were in the game regardless of being spoawned or console. and they were tbh a very first iteration and glad they are waiting to get them better working.
but at no stage did they say every alpha they were adding the bandits was my point mostly
 
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