PC V2.0 Storms Brewing Dev Diary

Grandpa Minion said:
Bingo!
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Okay but why from 1.0 when bandits were never scheduled for that? If you want to needlessly point out the obvious that bandits are behind schedule then start the clock from when they were originally scheduled to arrive which was April-July of 2025. Bandits are overdue by 4-5 months and counting as of now. But even that isn't news. We knew bandits would be late the moment 2.0 didn't release in December of 2024
 
GM and HD, if you guys like to have a bugged and glitched game, try to develop one, I bet it will be as fast as probably some moments in your life that you thought worth it, but not for the other side, that you`ve been with.

This is game development and it takes time. Another thing you should learn from ;)
 
beerfly said:
GM and HD, if you guys like to have a bugged and glitched game, try to develop one, I bet it will be as fast as probably some moments in your life that you thought worth it, but not for the other side, that you`ve been with.

This is game development and it takes time. Another thing you should learn from ;)
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nope...don't try and say I am trying to rush them...I just want better communication. What faatal just did...would be fine on a regular basis. Save your childish ad hominem attacks for another day.
 
Got your point, but the devs share stuff when it is ready to be shared properly among us and every community around internet, we cannot act grumpy for them not doing it, right ?

Because a work in progress is something that some wouldn`t accept right and will add a lot of clutter to discussions as we do now, this is why, with the years of development, us the members of this forums learned to leave them have their space, and when they are ready, they share what is cool for us to know, which is always a hype.
 
khzmusik said:
This is why I don't think IzPrebuilt was being lazy, or disingenuous. Given that it's difficult to find information saying that these things are coming in 2.x, why wouldn't he be inclined to think they're 3.0 features?
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I have to disagree with this. If someone is doing videos about a topic, they should be taking the time to find the actual information they are talking about. If they aren't willing to do so, then they should be very up front about "this is just my guess and I don't know anything for sure and haven't taken the effort to find out." It really isn't that hard to find out information. Faatal is the person who almost always provides it, so a search for posts by him on a specific topic will often yield results without much effort. Not everything is as easy to find - storms, for example are too big of a topic to easily find posts about if you are just searching for "storms" - but a lot of things are easy to find. And if he couldn't find the information himself, he could always ask someone who stays on top of the news. And if either of those don't work or he's just absolutely not interested in finding out the truth, he should be very clear about that as I said. Otherwise, it's just an attempt to drum up drama to get views. No different from all the news stations these days.
 
I have some quick questions: What happened to Trader Jimmy, did he get cut...
and become trader Jen? Also what happened to Trader Caitlin did her character get
Rekt or something, And last What happened to Trader ric making an appearance?

First will any of these make a reprisal before development ends, and if
they are all labeled as IsEnemyEntity, are they going to have a duplicitous
role in the future when interacting with the players? You know, like tainted food,
erroneous meds, weapons that fail, boot to the head, etc. That would be an interesting
turn of events. At least for me.
 
Bandits are cool and all, but I understand why they do prefer to push the game into a proper state first by polishing the few remaining features. Npcs are expected to squeeeeeze every inch of performance this engine can provide. 5x the cost per bandit vs a zombie will be an impressive feat of engineering, specially if their AI can do proper navigation and reaction in any edge case that comes up.

If they get bandits to build basic props around our base I'll quit my job and family and resort to the "caveman" scenario. Never to be heard again until steam hours played overflows the double-precision floating-point entry.
 
Blake_ said:
Bandits are cool and all, but I understand why they do prefer to push the game into a proper state first by polishing the few remaining features. Npcs are expected to squeeeeeze every inch of performance this engine can provide. 5x the cost per bandit vs a zombie will be an impressive feat of engineering, specially if their AI can do proper navigation and reaction in any edge case that comes up.
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Last I heard it was 3x the cost !? Are you assuming that will slip with further development?
 
Grandpa Minion said:
Bingo!
The thing that bothers me the most though is when they set a roadmap that isn't obtained...
than admins, forum moderators, server owners are stuck explaining to their populations for months on end why bandits haven't come or when they will come? Things would be so much easier if they just came out and told people the facts why they haven't been added and a realistic time line for it to happen.
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I think I can answer those two questions:

Why? Because they are not completely finished yet with bandits. Also the timeline still puts version 2 before version 3 and version 2 is not finished yet.
Guessing here: Likely some behaviour in specific situations is still missing with bandits, AI is surely by far the most difficult part of their development

Realistic time line: There is none until a) version 2 is finished and bandits have all features and TFP is in the middle of bug fixing. We know how bad TFP is with estimating timelines above a month or two. You practically failed to state a realistic question when you added "realistic" there ;)
 
beerfly said:
Got your point, but the devs share stuff when it is ready to be shared properly among us and every community around internet, we cannot act grumpy for them not doing it, right ?

Because a work in progress is something that some wouldn`t accept right and will add a lot of clutter to discussions as we do now, this is why, with the years of development, us the members of this forums learned to leave them have their space, and when they are ready, they share what is cool for us to know, which is always a hype.
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Be honest, this is a fan club disguised as a forum...even asking basic questions can start an avalanche of over reaction. That's not healthy. imo
THEY DO NOT communicate this stuff out in a timely fashion. Like, for example, letting people know that 2.5 has been pushed back several weeks. You guys are the exception...not the rule...people bought this game taking them at their word...are they supposed to be as expert as YOU at reading TFP's tea leaves? NO...the game is very late, TFP should do what is uncomfortable for them...and communicate in an on going manner, much as I have described many times: State what you intend, as the time gets closer amend the message. They can still have "surprise content" they do not tell us about, because we won't know about it until it is released anyways. Not trying to get privy information.

meganoth said:
Realistic time line: There is none until a) version 2 is finished and bandits have all features and TFP is in the middle of bug fixing. We know how bad TFP is with estimating timelines above a month or two. You practically failed to state a realistic question when you added "realistic" there ;)
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I disagree somewhat. There was never going to be a realistic timeline BECAUSE the original road map dates were never achievable. They were a lie that served a couple of purposes 1) to get more console players to buy in/buy back in 2) to get an unfinished game on the console platforms (for the pedants - there is a big difference from a tight schedule of a year and a half...and having no schedule AT ALL)

Since then it seems TFP find it easier to just ignore any criticism about THIS or to communicate about why they are so far behind.

I do agree with you that TFP seem to be unable to make a accurate estimate of time expectation past a month...which is why I keep advocating for short term communication. It isn't to make them look bad...it is because THAT is where they are most accurate.
 
Riamus said:
I have to disagree with this. If someone is doing videos about a topic, they should be taking the time to find the actual information they are talking about. If they aren't willing to do so, then they should be very up front about "this is just my guess and I don't know anything for sure and haven't taken the effort to find out." It really isn't that hard to find out information. Faatal is the person who almost always provides it, so a search for posts by him on a specific topic will often yield results without much effort. Not everything is as easy to find - storms, for example are too big of a topic to easily find posts about if you are just searching for "storms" - but a lot of things are easy to find. And if he couldn't find the information himself, he could always ask someone who stays on top of the news. And if either of those don't work or he's just absolutely not interested in finding out the truth, he should be very clear about that as I said. Otherwise, it's just an attempt to drum up drama to get views. No different from all the news stations these days.
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wow...so there are people in THIS conversation, who are on the forums daily, who are confused about what is coming with the 2.0 changes and what from the "town hall" will be implemented in 2.0 or 3.0, but, someone who KNOWS THEY ARE NOT WELCOME HERE should have come here for more info before making a video about what is unknown?
The average person is only following what is on the Socials or if their favorite content creators say something...I would want to be controlling that narrative, as much as possible, with better communication.
 
Jost Amman said:
If this is a fan club disguised as a forum, then you're an inquisitor disguised as a player. :sneaky:
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ad hominem attacks instead of engaging in the content...you have a pattern of doing this. what I don't understand is why?...you have intelligence...you COULD engage with the content, but, from my point of view, it seems when you can't, you just snipe...and get away with semi inflammatory comments disguised as poor jokes.
 
Jost Amman said:
There's NO WAY Jen is a tranny! :mad: 😁
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I was just curious, because ingame you have intimidation media, and Rickt cussing
you out every other breath. I recently realized the traitor sign on Joel's camp,
never really paid attention before. So with the isenemy label it made me wonder.

I figured if I were going to ask that, then I would ask about the other traders.
It was a straight question, I swear that was my sole intent.:ROFLMAO::devilish:

Here are the underlying thoughts, that prompted me to ask those questions.

The traders are stationary, If all loot was removed from the world right now, and it was
converted to a sweep and clear scenario only. The traders would still be getting amply
resupplied every four days from somewhere. So are all of the vending machines.

Supply can't be from the existing pois, or there would be no loot in the containers to loot.
All of the doors are boarded up. Trader vehicles are broken, Bob's engine is on
a hoist, There are no vehicle tracks in the dirt. If they were the ones boarding up all
of the pois, they would never be at the trading post. If they were, their eyes would be
bloodshot and they would be winded and bloody. Of course that would explain alot about
Rekt. It's not all of their employees, because they're dead. It's not constant secret air drops, I learned
this from watching streamers, because more often than not they bivouac across the street from the trader.

Soooo...Someone is doing something shady, somewhere, somehow. Which led me to think that they
will show their hand in the future.
 
Jost Amman said:
@Grandpa Minion wanted to know, since you're developing Chicken COOP, when will Chicken PvP be ready? :unsure:

Also, @HammerDano says you didn't specify any details on these WIP features, like:
  • Are these estimates for PC release, or Console release?
  • Does 100% with the question mark mean it's not written in stone or not?
  • Does 100% without question mark mean you swear a blood oath that it'll be released?
  • How many weeks apart are 2.5 and 2.6?
  • He thinks if you answer these questions it'll be enough (for now)
Thanks for improving communication.
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No.....it doesn't say WHEN all this is coming out.....you forgot that, lmfao!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
HammerDano said:
ad hominem attacks instead of engaging in the content..
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Are you sure you really wanna do this? :confused:

Content? What kind of content? The fact that it's either your way or the highway? :rolleyes:

You're the one who just insulted THE WHOLE FORUM saying that we're all just a bunch of fanboys, and YOU are telling me about ad hominem attacks? 🧐 At least mine was a joke meant to roast you for your continued behavior on this forum, but you weren't even joking.

You've been relentlessly nagging TFP for the same information over and over, telling them how they should handle their PR, basically accusing them of deceiving their player base. You've been spamming the forums with the same requests, over and over, and we've all been patient and understanding with you.

Now I dare to make a joke poking fun at you, but no, HIS majesty calls it an ad hominem attack?
If that's your attitude then I'm done with you. You deserve all the ridicule that's coming on you. SMH. 😒
 
4sheetzngeegles said:
Supply can't be from...
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I'll tell you a secret... shhh. :sneaky:

Did you notice the helipads at each traders' compound?

Well, every few days, during the night, when they're closed to the public, a chopper comes from somewhere outside of the quarantine zone and restocks them!

Yes, you heard right! There's a black market which covertly restocks traders in the quarantine zone (Navezgane), even if the military has officially forbidden access. They need to keep it secret of course, because if the military finds out...
 
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