Caelynd Maclyrr
Refugee
Is there likely disastrous changes to the map between 2.3 and 2.5? Our group is about to start a new game with 2.3, with a potential long timeframe, and we might want to update, but not if it might scuttle the map.
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Riamus
Hunter
That's unlikely. I've seen a total of one minor update version (such as 2.1, 2.2, 2.3, etc.) that broke saves and it was because of a bug with saves. Updates that break saves are major updates (2.0, 3.0, 4.0). Not updating for a minor update can sometimes mean you miss out on certain things, such as any new POI, and you may be required to re-spend your perk points if they change perks in a minor update, but you should have no issue continuing to play an older save. You can still play a 2.0 save on 2.4, for example. None of the things they've mentioned for 2.5 seem to be things that would have any chance of breaking a save.
Mr. Perfect
Refugee
I wonder if there could be some "staged" or "timed" events - thinking of Fallout4 where various settlements would come under attack by some enemy or other. Maybe to reduce overhead, have something like a random alert that bandit camp X is under attack - if you get there in time (set some sort of max time to start timer) then there is a bandit camp and something like a horde that attacks them - if you get there on time, you can kill off all the bandits and then defend from the "horde" for a reward, or wait until the zombies either beat the bandits or the bandits beat the zombies and fight the winner...just a random idea
Also for all the griping I always see in this forum, there is not one other game out there that has consumed as much of my time as this one. If there is an aspect of the game that I don't like, I mod it from the very robust modding community out there. The only thing that has never been addressed by a mod is the current lack of a farmer, cowboy, cheerleader and football player zombie. I miss those and no mod has revived them...
I honestly dig the storms, especially with the updated impacts from the 24/7 storms mod and the mission oriented gear instead of a magic badge. Think this could be helped by having to craft a suit of whatever and be given components by the trader after completing so many jobs (or of course, the chance to find components in the wild) so like first, in the woodlands, they give you a piece of wet weather gear for every 3 jobs completed OR let the users spawn in any biome and the survival gear reward is what they hand out for the first few jobs...basic protection from rads like iodine tabs, a wool scarf for snow, big hat for desert or some such ...
I honestly dig the storms, especially with the updated impacts from the 24/7 storms mod and the mission oriented gear instead of a magic badge. Think this could be helped by having to craft a suit of whatever and be given components by the trader after completing so many jobs (or of course, the chance to find components in the wild) so like first, in the woodlands, they give you a piece of wet weather gear for every 3 jobs completed OR let the users spawn in any biome and the survival gear reward is what they hand out for the first few jobs...basic protection from rads like iodine tabs, a wool scarf for snow, big hat for desert or some such ...
faatal
Fun Pimps Staff
We are avoiding breaking saves if at all possible. 2.0+ saves should still work with 2.5, 2.6.
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Yes. Last week I saw a zombie and bandit killing each other and was amused and happy that it still worked after bandits being added back into trunk.
POI spawns will support both at the same time. A bandit could spawn next to a zombie and I can see the designers having some fun with that.
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faatal
Fun Pimps Staff
Or really any topic.
Dreyseth
Refugee
You are like an ancient Greek philosopher. "Nothing in existence can remain unchanged forever, therefore, nothing in existence can ever be complete."
Like, all we are is dust, in the wind.
Roland
Community Moderator
Dust. Wind. Dude.
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But that’s….impossible with current code….
faatal
Fun Pimps Staff
I was clearly hallucinating from too much smoke and poppi while my computer rebooted from the BSOD.
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Zeds will pick the corpse. Bandits you, then zed, then corpse. Players will do as players do.
Outlaw_187
Survivor
Mama says
(in a Forrest Gump voice)
Dreyseth
Refugee
Ostentatio
Refugee
I tried, but alas, I just couldn't resist
So what you're saying is, I'm going to finally put points into Huntsman so I can stockpile absurd quantities of meat to carry around with me whenever I need to get some levels, thereby becoming my own bait? Yeeeessssss
Any chance the smell would also apply to, say... vehicle inventories? Or the drone? Or perhaps any and all storage containers, except for a "sealed" container like a special refrigeration box?
Laz Man
Fun Pimps Staff
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Riamus
Hunter
Pull out the rocket launcher and then it doesn't matter who goes after who first.
Considering faatal said that storms still have a lot work work left on them for 2.5, I doubt there will be an experimental for at least a few weeks, though I could be wrong.
You are talking about different things here, Hammer about the experimental, Roland about stable. Maybe you should always add those terms so you don't talk at cross purposes.
If I recall correctly the first 2.0 experimental had no "real" storms, but according to the release notes 2.0 stable in June had: (https://7daystodie.com/v2-0-storms-brewing-release-notes/ ).
Now considering the surprise of Fataal when 2.0 experimental was received so badly for missing storms I would guess that they thought the biome progression storms where enough "storm" and "weather", but their reason to include those effects at all were not only to add some weather effects but (mainly )to add something they wanted for their story. That the advertisment was overpromising in its picture, sure, granted. Seen any advertisement that isn't painting everything too shiny? I don't. Consider the advertisement aka cover art for the original Doom game, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_(1993_video_game) , does the picture look like the actual game? Don't think so.
It is also possible they had plans for storms like they are now, but wanted to add them at a later date because they weren't finished. I don't know.
When Roland says that 2.0 was finished, delay or not, he means 2.0 stable and that was the version console got, right? Hammer, did you ever play a version on console that had no storms in it as they are now?
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