PC Alpha 21 Discussion Overflow

fragtzack said:
Sexual t-rex removed?

Seriously!?!



Yes and no. The perk itself is going away.. sort of. It's being baked into each melee weapon perk and into the tool perks (Salvage Ops and Miner 69er)

 
here is my problem with the electric fence. 2,3 and 4 take damage. 1 and 5 remain untouched. how to properly arrange the parts so that they can be used and repaired efficiently? and I attach a general view of this part of the base already without a fence. 

I would be very grateful for your help)

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You know that only one pole of an electric fence gets damaged when a zombie walks through the fence? Since 4 and 5 are a pair, only one of them will get damage.

 
You know that only one pole of an electric fence gets damaged when a zombie walks through the fence? Since 4 and 5 are a pair, only one of them will get damage.
It may not be very visible on the screen, but they are all connected in series. The numbers indicate the connection sequence. and only 2, 3 and 4 take damage.

 
It may not be very visible on the screen, but they are all connected in series. The numbers indicate the connection sequence. and only 2, 3 and 4 take damage.


So the end of each wire should take damage when a zombie walks through them (if I understand it correctly).  If they walk between 1&2, 2 takes damage, 2&3 3 takes damage, and so on.  If no damage at 5 then that is probably because no zombies walked between the poles 4&5.

Issue with this design though is if any pole in the circuit becomes broken from damage, any poles after that won't get any electricity flowing through them.  So if Pole 3 gets broken, then you won't have any current flowing from poles 2 through 5.

 
here is my problem with the electric fence. 2,3 and 4 take damage. 1 and 5 remain untouched. how to properly arrange the parts so that they can be used and repaired efficiently? and I attach a general view of this part of the base already without a fence. 

I would be very grateful for your help)


Try connecting 2 -> 5 or 1 -> 5. Then 5 should take the damage.

You will need more posts in similar spots to 5

I use multiple rows (about 6) of electric fences across the entrance all 1 block apart (like 2 -> 3 and 1 -> 4 with more in between).

I run them off different switches (3 per switch).

Only the outer most set ON at the start

If / when one set breaks I turn on the next set.

 
No concrete? Heck that'd only be #7 of worst A21 features.

#1 would be the extensive delivery time. Y'all lose the source code or something? Do I have time to finish yet another degree before this game is done or should i just wait?
Finish the degree sir, the yet another one, and when you do it, we all will have A21 released, so it all depends on you ! 

No rush at all 🎈

 
Humor seems a foreign concept to you.
Humor is when you don't update your community with any news on an early access game for over a month and then to add insult to injury you break the silence with a guy making brrrrr noises and show us a microsoft paint danger indicator apparently.

TFP needs to learn to read the room, no infact TFP needs to actually try being in the bloody room.
 

 
Humor is when you don't update your community with any news on an early access game for over a month and then to add insult to injury you break the silence with a guy making brrrrr noises and show us a microsoft paint danger indicator apparently.

TFP needs to learn to read the room, no infact TFP needs to actually try being in the bloody room.
 


Dude, you can still play A20 so relax. Remember when you were jonesing for that? Nobody is denying you 7 Days to Die play time. All you do is rag about the changes anyway. I'd think you'd be fine with just sticking to A20....

 
In fact, you can always go back to every single alpha down to 8.8, by selecting the game properties in Steam and then "betas", just the same as one does to participate in the latest experimental builds over the course of a new alpha.

Just fyi for anybody who is talking about "the good old times when gameplay mechanism XYZ was still there in some previous alpha".

You can still have it.

Of course at the cost of losing mostly all the great improvements that came with the newer alphas...well...cherry pickers... 🙃😛

 
Dude, you can still play A20 so relax. Remember when you were jonesing for that? Nobody is denying you 7 Days to Die play time. All you do is rag about the changes anyway. I'd think you'd be fine with just sticking to A20....


I'd actually be quite happy to just never play the game again, infact i rarely do play it for fun these days. I make videos on it because I enjoy interacting with the greater community and the sub-community i've built as well as the creator friends i made along the way, but I'm deeply sick of the game itself, i'm infuriated by the awful dev communication and it's honestly just one of the worst choices of my life to stick my youtube flag anywhere near this game and I have been actively trying to expand my channel away from this game to slowly un@%$# that situation. But those pivots and expansions take a long time to stick on youtube, my channel is currently throroughly entrenched in this game and my community actually does want to see A21, and I want them to get what they want.

There have been times where i've tried to defend and vouch for TFP and there have been times where I have been rightfully annoyed by TFP.

I found myself being burned time and time again by ever trying to give you all the benefit of the doubt, I.E looking like a tool because you did exactly what all the nay-sayers said you would/what you have been doing.

So all my goodwill is gone. I know you don't care. And I'll tell you another thing, i'm not the only person who hates what you're doing/have done, I'm just one of the few who is stuck with some skin in the game in the form of my youtube channel, a source of secondary income for me, and as a result can't simply walk away from the game. No matter how badly i want to wash my hands of it.

 
I'd actually be quite happy..
As we are, I`m not mocking you right now, far away from that. 

While we love playing the game, we have the understanding that it could have its moments. 

And we respect that in every way. 

Also.."double click on 7days to die icon" 

 
@IzPrebuilt man I feel sorry for you! You seem so absolutely mad that the game doesn't advance the way you would have it,

especially because you have a long history with it.

I can understand you. 

But isn't it a bit unfair to say you regret that you have so much 7D2D content on youtube and having a hard time to "get rid" of the connection now?

I took a look at your channel and I have to say, you would probably not have that big of a community without that game.

And see it isn't your game, it's just your channel mostly relies on the many people who like to play it and watch other people playing it / presenting content about it.

Without it you wouldn't be where you are today maybe.

So one could even say you owe them. Or that you are now biting the hand that fed you for a long time. 

Whatever.

As for me, I guess your anger comes from being disappointed.

And deeply disappointed you can only be by those you truly love.

Take care buddy, and btw I really liked that vid you did together with temreki recently in one of his "one night stand" content.

 
So all my goodwill is gone. I know you don't care. And I'll tell you another thing, i'm not the only person who hates what you're doing/have done, I'm just one of the few who is stuck with some skin in the game in the form of my youtube channel, a source of secondary income for me, and as a result can't simply walk away from the game. No matter how badly i want to wash my hands of it.
Nobody cares, really (or maybe your friends do). This is a game forum, we play, and we get some entertainment from this game.

If you struggle with your "job", and you think it's TFP's fault, you should drop it yesterday and find a new one.

The only thing you achieve by coming here and nagging the devs, is @%$#ing off the other forum users (or at least me).

It's like someone being dumped by his GF because he plays 7D2D too much, and then blaming the devs for it.

And by the way... who tf are you??

 
I'd actually be quite happy to just never play the game again, infact i rarely do play it for fun these days. I make videos on it because I enjoy interacting with the greater community and the sub-community i've built as well as the creator friends i made along the way, but I'm deeply sick of the game itself, i'm infuriated by the awful dev communication and it's honestly just one of the worst choices of my life to stick my youtube flag anywhere near this game and I have been actively trying to expand my channel away from this game to slowly un@%$# that situation. But those pivots and expansions take a long time to stick on youtube, my channel is currently throroughly entrenched in this game and my community actually does want to see A21, and I want them to get what they want.

There have been times where i've tried to defend and vouch for TFP and there have been times where I have been rightfully annoyed by TFP.

I found myself being burned time and time again by ever trying to give you all the benefit of the doubt, I.E looking like a tool because you did exactly what all the nay-sayers said you would/what you have been doing.

So all my goodwill is gone. I know you don't care. And I'll tell you another thing, i'm not the only person who hates what you're doing/have done, I'm just one of the few who is stuck with some skin in the game in the form of my youtube channel, a source of secondary income for me, and as a result can't simply walk away from the game. No matter how badly i want to wash my hands of it.


I truly empathize with your situation.  Certainly, it can't be easy relying on one game primarily as a content creator.

My best advice is to shelve the game for now and take a break and recharge as not doing so will just burn you out and hurt your channel.

Best of luck to you.

 
I'd actually be quite happy to just never play the game again, infact i rarely do play it for fun these days. I make videos on it because I enjoy interacting with the greater community and the sub-community i've built as well as the creator friends i made along the way, but I'm deeply sick of the game itself, i'm infuriated by the awful dev communication and it's honestly just one of the worst choices of my life to stick my youtube flag anywhere near this game and I have been actively trying to expand my channel away from this game to slowly un@%$# that situation. But those pivots and expansions take a long time to stick on youtube, my channel is currently throroughly entrenched in this game and my community actually does want to see A21, and I want them to get what they want.

There have been times where i've tried to defend and vouch for TFP and there have been times where I have been rightfully annoyed by TFP.

I found myself being burned time and time again by ever trying to give you all the benefit of the doubt, I.E looking like a tool because you did exactly what all the nay-sayers said you would/what you have been doing.

So all my goodwill is gone. I know you don't care. And I'll tell you another thing, i'm not the only person who hates what you're doing/have done, I'm just one of the few who is stuck with some skin in the game in the form of my youtube channel, a source of secondary income for me, and as a result can't simply walk away from the game. No matter how badly i want to wash my hands of it.


How about walking away from the forum? You've just admitted you have no desire to play the game any longer, and plan to shift away from 7 Days as soon as you can, and the worst aspects of the game that make you the most angry are all the things that happen here on the forum. So why stick around and make peanut gallery snide remarks and unhelpful sniping insults? There are lots of games I don't care for and I don't go to their forums and be that angry guy.

Honestly, why torture yourself? The game has grown into something you don't care for. That is not a unique problem to have. As  you've said, you're not the only person who is unhappy with the results of the development. But there are plenty of others who are happy with it. So it isn't a problem with the game or the developers. It is simply a problem of your desires not matching up with the developers' desires. There's no reason to be mad. Just find a game that you like better. People do it all the time. Make your transition and free yourself from the bitterness this is all causing.

What if there was an angry dude on your channel making boorish remarks about the way you do things. I doubt you'd have any tolerance for that? How many people who act as you've been acting in our house have you banned from your channel in order to keep the peace and maintain an enjoyable experience? It seems to me a bit worse that someone in your position who moderates and maintains a community and probably has standards of behavior that you enforce is behaving in the way you are here with comments that aren't even designed to be constructive or helpful. They are just angry and trollish.

Discussions about likes and dislikes regarding the game are great and are encouraged but just general sniping and complaining about the developers way of conducting their business--especially going on and on about it in multiple posts once you know that they aren't interested in changing is just not what we want this forum filled with.

EDIT: To clarify this post I am simply asking @IzPrebuilt why they would want to linger in a place that brings them nothing but bitterness. I was not ordering them to leave the forum or threatening them with a ban. All of their posts are still here and they are are still here able to post their thoughts and opinions. This post is simply an inquiry into the motivation to stay and post sarcastic jibes when they've admitted they are done with the game and no longer interested in its future. As a video gamer myself I have quit countless games I used to enjoy and I don't go to any of their forums and talk about how I no longer enjoy playing so I'm naturally curious to understand someone who does that. @IzPrebuilt is welcome to continue posting here.

 
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So all my goodwill is gone. I know you don't care. And I'll tell you another thing, i'm not the only person who hates what you're doing/have done, I'm just one of the few who is stuck with some skin in the game in the form of my youtube channel, a source of secondary income for me, and as a result can't simply walk away from the game. No matter how badly i want to wash my hands of it.
we need to delete the game from the library and forget about it. The game doesn't get better from patch to patch. The trends have been clear since 2018.

I was attracted to the idea of hardcore survival. The developers betrayed this idea a long time ago. What was the cost of assembling a mini-bike, when the guys assembled it in parts not in someone's inventory, but actually physically assembled it on the floor of our base, this fact alone created a magnificent garage atmosphere. From the 1st to the 100th day, they could run around in search of better spare parts from weapons to get the cherished 600 quality. But even this quality degraded (just like the game is now) over time, so there was an incentive to searching again and motivation to collect the best weapons, it was very interesting.  The encounter with zombies was always rewarded, it was always interesting, because you got not only experience, but also precious random loot (it was possible to loot zombies). You could loot the toilets in search of @%$# to make fertilizer, it was fun. Despite the fact that the game could drop to 5 frames per second. We played it over and over again. Now new patches are played for exactly a couple of days, the next time you will play when a new patch is released.

 
Now new patches are played for exactly a couple of days, the next time you will play when a new patch is released.


Sorry you feel that way. That is not the norm though. The devs couldn't make the game that everyone wanted. They have made a game that quite a lot of people want and enjoy for a lot longer than two days. Since 2018 the number of players continuing to play this game have increased by quite a bit. Its too bad your expectations and desires for the game turned out to be different than what the developers have done but it isn't as though they are betraying you and staying loyal to someone else. They are simply developing their game which involves experimentation, change, and progress and that means some things that were beloved to some people will get cut.

 
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