Sorry, but your initial suggestion was not about specific probabilities. If you had said from the start "x is too seldom, y too common and those specific probabilities should be changed", there would have been a much different conversation here.
Sure, the probabilites have to be worked on, not surprising after the loot tables had a full rework. Honey could be a bit more common, beakers chance in mid or late game could be increased a bit. I don't think beakers should drop anywhere in early game though except through a lucky drop, as a chem station is the LAST workstation in this game. In other words nearly end-game content.
But your initial suggestion was to change random into fake-random, i.e. people should believe it is random but the game should remove any obstacles the survival part offers and make sure his "luck" never runs out. And this I object to.
Disbelief? So fully stacked traders with an invisible supply network but no defense and no customers but you does not already fire up your disbelief beyond repair, but some item not dropping enough does? There are so many believability holes in this game you could build an opera inside. Accept that this in no simulation or find a real simulation to play.
Very true. I'm fully with you on this, we should find a lot less full weapons and more parts instead. Madmole seems to be working on a new weapon-crafting system, so it seems TFP recognized a problem there as well. Not saying the new system will be better, but advantages and disadvantages will be different.
If it is about drop changes, then yes, a lot has also to do with playstyle. If we are still talking about random versus fake-random, then no, there is no playstyle that says I want to get stuff exactly when I need it.
(If I weren't such a forum noob I'd know how to the point-by-point answer format you just did. Alas.)
My initial post didn't say that in so many words, no, but I thought the meaning was clear enough. Mea culpa.
I agree with just about everything you say here but, honestly-- if you prioritize intelligence you can have the option to build a chemistry station at level one. You'd need to get lucky in other ways (like finding a forge schematic or a wrench), but it's at least within the realm of possibility to have it done within five levels. Passing 50 levels without ever finding a beaker, though? In
anything? Not even a broken chemistry station which would've required a beaker to be built in the first place? Just when does "end game" start, anyway?
The game already has a certain amount of "fake-random" baked into it. I merely wish for the fake-random to be adjusted to be less improbable.
Those "believability holes" you speak of? I don't see them. We get airdrops, and we start the game having been kicked out of someplace that had to be safe from zombies, so that points to civilization existing beyond what we can see, and one that has an investment in our survival for whatever reasons. So I can make the leap of faith there. I cannot make such a leap with 75 fishing weights. I can't imagine that many existing in separate homes within a 100-200 meter radius of me in real life. Trophies, sure, but fishing weights? Nah. Not happening. I don't need this to be a reality simulation in order to point out that the game as it stands breaks my immersion.
Glad to hear Madmole is doing that.
Again, fake-random is already in the game. I don't want to get stuff exactly when I need it; I find stuff before I can have a use for it all the time. That's one thing storage chests are good for. I wouldn't even notice this was happening if I could just bypass the RNG and craft a beaker in the first place.
Sure there is, they're fragile and break. And just how many places do you think have beakers in them pre disaster to be there for looting after? They'd be pretty damn rare in a real situation, makes perfect sense to me. Not that it needs to make sense anyway, it's all about gameplay. They used to be everywhere and that sucked. Having things hard to get is good.
Beakers can be made from plastics or metal, thus invalidating your "fragility" argument. I maintain that in a house literally full of chemistry stuff you should be able to find one. You should be able to loot one from a destroyed chem station since that might be a part that survived. I don't need them to be everywhere; I just need them to be slightly more common than "you can buy a whole chem station before you can buy a beaker." And again, if I could just craft the damn thing, I wouldn't even care about the RNG. Having things be hard to get is only good up to a certain point, otherwise the ideal game would be one in which you could only loot fishing weights.
(why did the forum append this to a post I already made??)
