That is just brute forcing the situation. The devs will probably make invulnerable and slippery blocks to prevent framing around or poking shooting holes in a room.
Why would you think that? If anything they've been very supportive of breaking walls or using frames to get around obstacles.... its really many of our fellow players that are against those tactics.
I amazed you've forgotten my position on this. Auto-aggro volumes need to either have clear indicators before you enter them, that someone being observant will notice, that they do not follow how the other volumes function or they need to be removed from the game. Effectively having my character slammed into a corner and curb stomped despite having done everything to mitigate my observability is @%$#ing bull@%$#.
Oh, it seemed like your position was that stealth should be effective in all areas of every POI. You kept showing examples where stealth doesn't work in POIs. Now, as to your current position, I disagree. I like areas that trigger when you enter them.... adds some excitement, IMO. In fact, I wish they were more randomly placed since once you know where they are its a lot less exciting.
Excitement? Interesting generalization term for this. There are other, more focused, terms that apply to being effectively powerless to prevent being slammed into a corner and beaten w/n an inch of your life...
It is like that one Godzilla film with the babies. They kept rushing out of corners to startle the audience. It got tiresome and I was bored of the film quite quickly.
I'm going to enjoy leveling the ranger station POIs for sure. No point running them thanks to their developer's power tripping.
You are faster than them and just need to lead them away from the door, circle around them and leave. I'm not saying this is trivial but neither a frightfully difficult task.
Took screens of the rubble and posted them in the Images thread.
If that option had been there I'd have taken it. You can't walk, run or jump through zombies...
Here is how you can find out which POI you are looking at. Maybe post the name of it so I can see for myself. I visited 4 of the 7 ranger stations in the game and couldn't find anything fitting your description
Live and learn, thanx. I am definitely now a bit more educated in regards of sleeper volumes and how they operate. Based purely on observations I kind had misunderstood an aspect of them (the assumed existence of individual trigger "points")).
Youtube videos of the explosions and maybe a protest sign are more likely to be shared to a wider audience.
By the way, my bug report for fire_station_01 landed in "confirmed". So it seems POIs with all volumes on auto_trigger are not intended. I suppose it is still possible that some developer later looks at the bug and says "No, this is as it should be", but all the signs point strongly to this being an oversight.
So just to be clear, they have not added in any special "SPAWNING ZOMBIES OUT OF THIN AIR" mechanic or "hack". If you see zombies pop into existence it is because you entered a sleeper volume that was not previously loaded and the direction you entered does not provide cover to hide the spawning. You absolutely are seeing zombies spawn right in front of you, I'm not denying that. But it was not added as a "hack" to counter some player behavior. It is just a weakness in the mechanics of sleeper volumes that, hopefully, they find a way to fix.
That's a fair point, however I think it's also fair to say that a survivor who has encountered several homes and businesses laden with traps and newly un-dead former residents/employees/customers could be expected to punch out a few windows or holes in drywall to scope out the next room before entering it. Obviously the survivors who came before me were very diligent in setting up traps and apparently the zombies are pretty devious as well. The concept of "sleeper volumes" is not required. Of course the auto-aggro rooms don't really bother me that much and I strongly resist the idea of "cheese" in a game where I have tools which can destroy any building I'm in, so I haz a bias for sure.
Sorry the reply took so long.
And probably .000000000000001% more effective at getting the change you want out of the developers....but if Covid has provided you with more time then a project like this could be fun to do so go for it.
This is definitely the wrong tactic to take. TFP wants there to be occasional areas of direct confrontation. They are happy to have stealth work 90% of the time and fail 10% of the time to mix things up a bit. If you ask them to add visible indicators of the reasons the zombies all wake up in that section they might consider doing it as a visual causality to better communicate to the player why it happened.
