PC Alpha 19 Dev Diary
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Sigil_Thane
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Adam the Waster
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thats the only exception! drink as much as you want! drink until you look like the cop zombie!As long as it's from a mason jar... Amirite?
Laz Man
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Dont forget to eat the jar or smash it into dust when your done....because it's not going back into your backpack...no sir it's not!As long as it's from a mason jar... Amirite?
Gazz
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Some players strongly feel that they must have XYZ right when they want to but that's what perks are for.
They then go around projecting their own preferences on everyone else. =P
Laz Man
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Kanaan Brood
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I may be showing my age here but what exactly is a min/max'er? I am old and can't keep up with you kids and all your fancy terms.ESPECIALLY, the min/max 'ers.....
Adam, some of us are getting worried. Do you need to talk about it? Cutting is an obvious sign of anxiety. We are here to help.
Annihilatorza
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Roland
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Someone who plays to maximize efficiency. Once the most efficient choices are determined they will always make those choices. Their primary goal tends to be to speed play through the progression arc as quickly as possible.
What do you do to pick one out of a crowd? Nothing. They’ll reveal themselves within minutes by sharing the fact that they got a concrete fort, all the workstations, and the gyrocopter by Day (x-10) where x is the day posted by the last min/maxer to share....
Tahaan
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Complete with millions of servers and active users already.
Slack did the same thing.
Whatsapp did it too.
Meanwhile some of us used BBSes, Fidonet, Janet, and Bitnet and found weird ways to get bluemail to talk between them (Copy-paste? What's that?)
Guppys Fur
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Tahaan
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It means people will buy Alpha 18 at the sale, and then shortly after starting to play they get an update, so the game development and updates feel very active and regular to the new buyers.
wolfbain5
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lol, min max is a 30 year old term. using minimum points to maximize character stats and abilities to make the strongest character possible, one who tries to squeeze every point they can out of it.
Aldranon
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That's very true.
For example Sun Tzu's The Art of War, was textbook Min-Max'ing.
Even after all those words he wrote, it would be difficult to pin a personality type on him.
Yes water is wet, unless its not. (Super heated steam or frozen ice).
Actually, as far as I recall, the term "min maxer" comes originally from certain classes of old-school pen and paper role playing games in the dungeons & dragons style, where during character creation players were given pools of points (much like the perk points in 7d, in fact) to spend on various attributes, skills, etc.
MinMaxing was a strategy to make the most efficient use of those points, by dumping them all or mostly into a small number of features, to maximize your power in your chosen area of expertise, by minimizing the number of points you spend elsewhere. The technique varies from game to game, but often includes tricks that involve taking advantage of high-level advantages from the areas you specialize in, to compensate for your complete lack of points spent in other areas. In fact, some games where this is popular allow you to take "character flaws", which are like negative perks that when taken, give you more perk points for other things. Taking as many such negative traits as is practical to get the highest possible number of points is considered standard.
So for example, a Min-Max wizard character might have maximum intelligence, wisdom, spell points, or whatever other wizardly things there are, but NOTHING spent in strength, stamina, or whatever things there are that are unrelated to wizardry. Then they use their spells as needed, which are going to be more powerful than a typical, evenly balanced wizards, to compensate for the weak attributes.
What I just described, and what @Roland described above, are not directly overlapping, so it's quite possible to BOTH minmax in the sense that I just described, AND progress speedily to end-game, but neither tactic really depends on the other.
I more often play just, I don't know, slowly I guess. And more evenly balanced, my perk points get pretty spread out. But sometimes I will do one or the other of those things, because that's the mood I'm in. I'm autistic, and optimization games are fun some times.
Adam the Waster
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Aldranon
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I still remember D&D with the the 3(?) booklets including the "Chain mail" booklet in the Box set. 
The first time my brother played, he wanted a "guard Pig"(!), I asked why not a guard dog and he mentioned a pigs better sense of smell and intelligence. He also wanted a [SIZE=19.6px]hammock[/SIZE] and slept in the trees. He liked Min-maxing.
**A throw of three dies determined the value of each of the player six stats, not any points unless your talking about a computer game.
Nevertheless, I think most people will tire of a game if its too easy, and ether:
1) Make the game harder with mods or modify their play style as you do.
2) Stop playing until something changes.
The first time my brother played, he wanted a "guard Pig"(!), I asked why not a guard dog and he mentioned a pigs better sense of smell and intelligence. He also wanted a [SIZE=19.6px]hammock[/SIZE] and slept in the trees. He liked Min-maxing.
**A throw of three dies determined the value of each of the player six stats, not any points unless your talking about a computer game.
Nevertheless, I think most people will tire of a game if its too easy, and ether:
1) Make the game harder with mods or modify their play style as you do.
2) Stop playing until something changes.
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