PC Why no one is doing anything for 7 days to die

You have to understand the mods on here play on PC and give no cares for the plight of console users. I mean really why would they care when it was our money that helped their version get to where it is? It's pure idiocy to suggest buying a $300 computer to run this game and goes to show they have 0 clue. The original OP was right in suggesting a half way decent gaming rig would cost about $1000 and this game isnt worth that cost. Sly is merely playing puppet to TFP and telling people to buy a pc since he knows the console version is doomed while under the control of TFP
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It's true that TFP are PC developers and this site is primarily for following their development. If you are wanting more than what the console version is currently offering, the only way to do that is to switch to the PC version.

 
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No it could not. That you think it could be is a problem. That was the whole point of my post that developing games is never as easy as people who primarily play them think it is.


There was nothing to fall for. There was always a hope that they might be able to continue with console. It has always been about money. TFP has always known that they don't know anything about porting to console. None of these things were sudden revelations to TFP and they never promised otherwise. I'm sorry you had impossible expectations. Those do lead to disappointment.

I'm working to convince the developers to reduce the console forum down to one simple General Discussions forum and One simple meet up forum. As for why I responded as I did, part of what I do is to debunk false speculation and incorrect information for the benefit of all those younger and impressionable console users. I didn't like the fact that the idea that all it takes is a push of a button and *poof* there can be more console updates was being preached. There is so much more to it. Obviously you needed me to correct this misconception yourself as even in your response you still seem to think all that is needed is one C level guy to say, "Make it so".

Nope.
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Who is running TFP? IF that person said lets get the update out it would happen. Or are you telling me that the person running TFPآ’s couldnآ’t make it happen?

I get the update wouldnآ’t be out tomorrow, but it could happen if TFP wanted it to happen. I think your expectation of the OP being instant buy pressing a button is an over reaction.

Correct me if I am wrong, but did you yourself say at one point that the last update being worked on was almost finished? I can comb though the old posts if needed, but I figured I would ask you directly. So if TTG was so close to pushing out the next update why could TFP not just get with IG to re-do or finish the update? Did you ask for a quote to finish or restart the update? Is that dollar amount not something that could be put to kickstart and then let the console community speak with their money??

You said آ“there was always hope they might continue the with consoleآ”. I believed that statement when TFP made the initial post telling us about TTG and how they wanted to get the rights back and support all platforms. That statement changed in the next post to aid console. At that point why not come clean you donآ’t want to spend money on a system you have zero experience with, or the fact TFP didnt want to waste cash resources on the console for economic and experience reasons. IMHO TFP knew almost a year ago that console was dead(current version own by TFP and for sale in the console stores currently). So now, I am still stuck in eternal limbo, because TFP said they might do something. Either there is a plan in place or there isnآ’t. So now I wait for PC to go gold, to hear the next step. Which I think we all know is the current console is done. I donآ’t have impossible expectations, my expectations are what I read posted by TFP, when they decide to post in the console section.

I like you generally only post to debunk false statements. You talking to the developers is excellent. Not sure why not just close this section at least until PC goes gold. Because it was stated that nothing is going to happen until then. So my current expectations are when PC goes gold. TFP if they need/want more money for the company they will re-release 7D2D 2. Or whatever TFP want to call it. I also expect them to say at that time something to the effect of sadness or unfortunately the reason the current console code will not be updated. Are those impossible expectations?

Please point out my false statements. I can accept us disagreeing on pushing the damn button and if it is or isnآ’t easy. if you can accept my point of view not being false on when the boss says it is going to happen, you make it happen.

 
Look man, video game programming isn't as simple as "update(PS4, XboxOne)". There's been posts explaining this, and you can google how rough it is to update games on consoles. MS and Sony make it a big pain in the ass to do it and have 9 million rules to this and that, including breaking previous game saves. More or less, Telltale made it even worse when they published it as a "Complete game" and not early access/alpha/in progress -- putting it in an even more strict ruleset. And the update was in IG's code, not TFP. TFP have programmed nothing for the consoles. They're also a small team, why they chose a 3rd party to do it. 1 team can't build 3 bridges across the world simultaneously.

You're getting angry over the wrong thing.

 
You can get a halfway ok PC to play it on for about $300, and a mostly decent PC for $500. Your estimation of $1000 for a PC shows that you don't shop around or know hardware very well.
Also, contollers are supported on the PC. You can just take the controller from your PS4 or X-Box, plug it into your PC, and game away.

Really, the biggest issue is how ill-informed all the complainers are.
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Gonna have to strongly disagree here, $300-$500 is nowhere near enough unless you go used and even then I highly doubt it. If you want to run this game at 1080p you will be getting close to the $1000 mark. The gpu alone costs you around $300. Then you need..

Motherboard

A cpu.

cpu cooler if you go Intel

16gb ram

500 watt psu

A case

SSD

If you go cheap and shop around maybe $800 but then you will be turning down some gfx and you aren't buying a pc to play it how it looks on console. $1000 dollars is a good budget to aim for, you want a mid-range pc to really enjoy the game.

 
PChttps://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07R8WJMW6

GPU

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PHWBHHX

$710

If you find them on sale, you can get as low as $500. (I know, because I did this a year ago for a gift.)

It will get a stable 60FPS with almost everything on max at 1080p.

If I were to really shop around some, I guarantee I can find a better deal. That's just from two minutes on Amazon.
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Yeah that looks okay I guess, I'd upgrade to a gfx card with 8gb probably and 16gb ram is pretty much standard today, then you'd be at that $800 low budget more or less as mentioned.

 
If you do deal-hunting you very well can build a 300-500$ PC that'll run games better than the dutch-oven consoles. It may not play at Mega-Ultra 8k resolution, but it'll play games. And you don't have to pay for the *cough extortion fees cough* online service, while getting the same discount/deals/free games.

 
If you do deal-hunting you very well can build a 300-500$ PC that'll run games better than the dutch-oven consoles. It may not play at Mega-Ultra 8k resolution, but it'll play games. And you don't have to pay for the *cough extortion fees cough* online service, while getting the same discount/deals/free games.
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Sure you "can" buld a cheap pc that runs "games" but we are talking about this game which is a voxel game and it is far from optimized. Sure you can buy a pc for $300-$500 dollars but you will not enjoy the experience. You will have a very low frame rate and you will be sacrificing a lot of gfx details. If you want to enjoy the game like the streamers you watch you're going to have to spend a bit more. My budget ended up at $1200 to play this and every game at 1080p all settings on ultra. If you already play on console, save up a bit longer and take the better experience but that's my opinion of course.

 
Sure you "can" buld a cheap pc that runs "games" but we are talking about this game which is a voxel game and it is far from optimized. Sure you can buy a pc for $300-$500 dollars but you will not enjoy the experience. You will have a very low frame rate and you will be sacrificing a lot of gfx details. If you want to enjoy the game like the streamers you watch you're going to have to spend a bit more. My budget ended up at $1200 to play this and every game at 1080p all settings on ultra. If you already play on console, save up a bit longer and take the better experience but that's my opinion of course.
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That's... literally what I said... geeze lol. Both consoles could barely run 7 days at A16, and most - if not all - games on consoles run at terrible framerates. If you absolutely HAVE to have ultra graphics like your streamers then yes you'll be spending 800$. You overpaid, why I said discount-hunt. Unless you need fancy RGB puke gear and all of that jazz to enjoy your games. My HP laptop can run the game on medium graphics at better framerate than consoles ran the game lol. Like Syl said, you don't need +1000$ to run at high settings.

Don't forget not everyone knows you can get significant increase in performance by optimizing your OS, reducing in cost in gear.

 
It's like he can't see my post with a $700 build that will do a very solid 60FPS. Get those on sale, and it's easily $500. Only want to spend $300-$500? You will still be able to get 30-40FPS which is better than the solid 30 you got on the console.

 
It's like he can't see my post with a $700 build that will do a very solid 60FPS. Get those on sale, and it's easily $500. Only want to spend $300-$500? You will still be able to get 30-40FPS which is better than the solid 30 you got on the console.
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Right? Lol. I bet, if you really spend some time bargain hunting, you can do the 700$ build for 400$. You can catch some really good deals, especially if you live near a Microcenter.

Hell, you may need to sacrifice 1080 on 7 days and stick to some medium/some high settings with low shadows/lighting, but there have been known Ryzen 5 builds using no graphics card getting 60 - 80 FPS on recent titles, add a cheapo gfx card and you add that much more power lol.

You don't need 1000$ to run the game, nor need it to run it on ultra. He lost any credit to me by saying you have to play on ultra to enjoy the game anyway lol.

By the way, you can get 20 - 30 FPS by building 200$ PCs, those are cheap ones. The 300 - 500 range is mid-range, not cheap. For 1000$ you should be able to run 2 7 days to die games at once lol.

 
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Right? Lol. I bet, if you really spend some time bargain hunting, you can do the 700$ build for 400$. You can catch some really good deals, especially if you live near a Microcenter.
Hell, you may need to sacrifice 1080 on 7 days and stick to some medium/some high settings with low shadows/lighting, but there have been known Ryzen 5 builds using no graphics card getting 60 - 80 FPS on recent titles, add a cheapo gfx card and you add that much more power lol.

You don't need 1000$ to run the game, nor need it to run it on ultra. He lost any credit to me by saying you have to play on ultra to enjoy the game anyway lol.

By the way, you can get 20 - 30 FPS by building 200$ PCs, those are cheap ones. The 300 - 500 range is mid-range, not cheap. For 1000$ you should be able to run 2 7 days to die games at once lol.
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I think you misunderstand the part where they said they dont want to build their own pc. Even assuming you can get that setup for $400-$500 you still need a monitor to play on which is reasonably another $100. That is more than double the cost of current gen consoles.

He also brought up a valid point in whats the point of wasting $400-$500 on a pc to run bare minimum settings on a game? Sure you can get a high frame rate but its going to look like trash. I'd much rather play full settings on a consol with a lower frame rate then dropping visual quality to minimums. If you want both frames and FPS a complete setup for $700-$800 isn't really unrealistic.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cybertronpc-rhodium-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-3-2200g-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1050-2tb-hard-drive-green/5024903.p?skuId=5024903

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-se2717hr-27-ips-led-fhd-freesync-monitor-piano-black/5996200.p?skuId=5996200

Thats the minimum i would even consider running this game on and your at roughly $800

 
If you do deal-hunting you very well can build a 300-500$ PC that'll run games better than the dutch-oven consoles. It may not play at Mega-Ultra 8k resolution,
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That should no be that hard. What i have seen from YT-Videos, the console-version of 7d2d looks like PC on ultra-low. Especially the view distance makes it feel more like silent hill as i remember it from the psx.

Honestly, if the PC-version would have only that graphics, i wouldn't even play it.

 
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It's because having a PC opens your world to games like 7 days. You'll be able to enjoy them better; building PCs is a very easy task which saves a ton of money while getting better parts overall, why it's being suggested. Even if a miracle is pulled off and a port of gold PC 7 days is actually successful, you're missing out on modding the game to your liking, you're stuck with what you get. You can't even change graphics options.

 
You have to understand the mods on here play on PC and give no cares for the plight of console users. I mean really why would they care when it was our money that helped their version get to where it is? It's pure idiocy to suggest buying a $300 computer to run this game and goes to show they have 0 clue. The original OP was right in suggesting a half way decent gaming rig would cost about $1000 and this game isnt worth that cost. Sly is merely playing puppet to TFP and telling people to buy a pc since he knows the console version is doomed while under the control of TFP
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I forgot to reply to this earlier. This statement is wholly false.

I do actually have and play the console version on the PS4. I have been supporting the console version since it came out. In this very forum Claire and myself have been your largest supporters.

I'm just not clouded by some misconception on what's really happening, and I'm not going to give you false hopes.

You guys have an issue understanding what all is involved with doing a console port. No matter how many times I lay it all out, my words fall on deaf ears.

If you can't accept reality, I'm sorry.

 
I forgot to reply to this earlier. This statement is wholly false.
I do actually have and play the console version on the PS4. I have been supporting the console version since it came out. In this very forum Claire and myself have been your largest supporters.

I'm just not clouded by some misconception on what's really happening, and I'm not going to give you false hopes.

You guys have an issue understanding what all is involved with doing a console port. No matter how many times I lay it all out, my words fall on deaf ears.

If you can't accept reality, I'm sorry.
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LOL i remember our few times a year updates from Claire which in all honestly was pretty pathetic. As far as updates from you no i mostly see you bashing console players and telling them to buy PC. Maybe not as bad as Roland but not much better either.

We all understand what goes into a port nobody is questioning the process. What we all are questioning/trying to understand is the reason TFP willingly sold the rights to an incomplete game. To most of us the obvious answer is because they saw a quick money option which would further the pc version. It also meant that come today TFP can pretend they had no clue what would happen, can pretend they had our best interest at heart and can blame literally everyone else. As if that wasnt bad enough TFP then tell console players if they like the game so much go re-buy it on PC.

At this point its more of a feeling that all console players got the shaft since day 1 and now that TFP have the rights back its not going to get better. There is no defense for TFP which is largely where the anger of console players comes from. A company cant actively pursue options to make a quick buck then claim its not their fault when things collapse. Perhaps if TFP years ago considered "wait for the gold version release" before we tackle the console we wouldnt even need this conversation....on the other hand if TFP didnt act out of greed the pc version may have died years ago and console never would have seen a release anyways.

 
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If you understand the process you wouldn't have made any of that post. Pretty sure they thought Telltale would publish the game as early access, which would give them (iron galaxy, TFP only gave them content from the PC. It was up to IG to actually DO the conversion to consoles) more freedom to make procedural updates, not sell it as a complete game, which put it in a stricter ruleset. Telltale went bankrupt for a reason. The only mistake TFP did was pick Telltale, but that's business. The anger of console players is mainly due to lack of knowledge in how much a restrictive PITA console development/publishing has become -- bluntly put, but it's the truth. It WASN'T their fault. I, myself, was angry over it, until I did some looking into it and discovered more of the truth behind it and just feel bad for the situation. But, I digress, if you wish to remain angry at the wrong people for the wrong reasons, carry on. But you're looking at the wrong tip of the wrong iceberg, and failing to see the rest of the iceberg to begin with lol.

 
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Not falling on deaf ears sly just I admit don’t know much about it not pc player as I admit they are great for gaming nothing towards people who prefer so thank everyone for help educated about it a bit

 
Maybe not as bad as Roland but not much better either.
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Say what? When did I bash console players? I own the game on xbox, myself. I just bought a Switch and while it doesn't have 7 Days, it does have Duck Hunt which has been a lot of fun. Consoles are great and so are the people who play them. (I'm talking about myself)

 
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