PC why is the SCREAMER WOMAN so unbalanced?

7daysOfFun

7daysOfFun

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when im at home NO screamer

when im in the city no screamer

when i get Quest 1-3 no screamer

when i get a quest lvl4 or higher , EVERY 30sek since start of quest a get a screamer

when i make a lvl4 house an get 2 the second floor  down at the door are 5 screamers + 50zombies = impossible to make the quest

why its so unbalanced?

 
Come on, you rot for a couple months first and then try to walk around. You'd scream too!

Oh wait.. :)

But.. how do you clear your POIs? I haven't summoned a screamer yet, done a few T5s .. I do a lot of bows and melee, but I'm not shying away from shotties or boombooms as required (or just fun )..

 
I've had I think 2 screamers in 80+ hours of A21, which is way fewer than I'd normally expect (I used to get 4-5 a night while mining in A20.)

But if you go through a POI and scrap/loot literally everything, you can get an absurd number of screamers.  I once had so many screamers spawned when I went through the Water Works the zombies were literally falling through the ground (they didn't dig any sort of hole) and attacking me.

 
I don't think this is even be possible since the cooldown in between the screamers should be much longer than that.
If it were a bug, everybody would notice this rather quickly. It's happened before.

 
i a20 the screamed depends were u live..on some points on the maps (like 300meters) away there you build your base EVERY 2 hours a screamer...in other places NO screamers all time (1 member from us has the problem...we build 6 hoomebases along a street) and the one has lot of screamers

when looting or walking around it was balanced

but in a21

i have this phanomen, i start a 4 or 4+ quest...we shoot 2,3 zombies = screamer... ITS EVERY TIME !!!!

its annoying, because we cant do the quest without visitors from outside

 
The player activity and your forges, benches, torches etc not only adds heat to that chunk, but that heat seeps into neighboring chunks.
Bases too close together will definitely cause problems. Bases too close to quest POIs can also be a problem.

 
7daysOfFun said:
but in a21

i have this phanomen, i start a 4 or 4+ quest...we shoot 2,3 zombies = screamer... ITS EVERY TIME !!!!

its annoying, because we cant do the quest without visitors from outside
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Curious to know if you are going loud without suppressors. In my own A21 game, without a suppressor, I get screamers spawning in if I open fire on a large wandering horde, that's caught me by surprise, with my pipe MG; the first screamer usually shows up at about the time I've expended a third magazine.

If I've remembered to swap the suppressor in, then the noisy, nosey, super Karen does not show up to demand to see my manager.

 
mprojekt said:
Curious to know if you are going loud without suppressors. In my own A21 game, without a suppressor, I get screamers spawning in if I open fire on a large wandering horde, that's caught me by surprise, with my pipe MG; the first screamer usually shows up at about the time I've expended a third magazine.

If I've remembered to swap the suppressor in, then the noisy, nosey, super Karen does not show up to demand to see my manager.
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Also crouching reduces gun heat generation on top of a supressor, even without it, it makes a diff. With one thou and crouched I think it does 60-70% less heat gen per shot. As for OP, I am guessing they do not understand how heat works and/or possibly doing the mistake every new player does just about which is going gun crazy on slow moving walking zombies that aren't any real threat, just melee them down, or use a bow/crossbow. My current game is on day 12 or so, I still just melee zombies down, don't need guns yet.

 
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Scyris said:
Also crouching reduces gun heat generation on top of a supressor, even without it, it makes a diff. With one thou and crouched I think it does 60-70% less heat gen per shot. As for OP, I am guessing they do not understand how heat works and/or possibly doing the mistake every new player does just about which is going gun crazy on slow moving walking zombies that aren't any real threat, just melee them down, or use a bow/crossbow. My current game is on day 12 or so, I still just melee zombies down, don't need guns yet.
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I had been firing willy-nilly, when outdoors, thru some alphas. It was not until I had watched Capp00 or Glock9 perform a sneak-attack with a shotgun, that I tried it out, indoors. I was pleasantly surprised when I did not call the whole POI down on myself. This made me consider the heat mechanic a lot more and how it is affected by my weapon choices in combat. Prior to this, I was only thinking of heat in relation to my base.

Crouch-firing all the firearms became my normal inside all POIs, ever after. When I am outdoors in the forest and the desert, I tend to RP as Frank from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. In snow, I am more careful, but I still go loud and proud if the area is relatively clear of trees and reasonably flat.

The wasteland scares me. It whispers, "Weee are going to eeeat yooour faaace," so I don't use firearms there without a suppressor and when I do, I am crouched.

 
mprojekt said:
I had been firing willy-nilly, when outdoors, thru some alphas. It was not until I had watched Capp00 or Glock9 perform a sneak-attack with a shotgun, that I tried it out, indoors. I was pleasantly surprised when I did not call the whole POI down on myself. This made me consider the heat mechanic a lot more and how it is affected by my weapon choices in combat. Prior to this, I was only thinking of heat in relation to my base.

Crouch-firing all the firearms became my normal inside all POIs, ever after. When I am outdoors in the forest and the desert, I tend to RP as Frank from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. In snow, I am more careful, but I still go loud and proud if the area is relatively clear of trees and reasonably flat.

The wasteland scares me. It whispers, "Weee are going to eeeat yooour faaace," so I don't use firearms there without a suppressor and when I do, I am crouched.
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Generally its best to always crouch and use a supressor period on any gun. Unless you don't really care about heatmap or your just doing a small poi. Only thing i'd kinda argue against using one is the shotgun, buckshot already has horrid effective range, and the silencer mod makes this even worse. On most other guns the range hit is negligable as in most cases even with the pistol your in the effective range inside a poi.

 
Because as we all know - crouching with a gun makes it quieter...

The little bullets know you're crouching when they leave the gun, so they whisper "Shuuusshh" to each other and file out quietly.

That's why the SAS are always crouching...

 
today we made a snow quest 4+1,5  (with 3 players)

after shooting 3 zombies > 1 screamer, after then all 30sek a new screamer...we dont had a chance to enter the building because it was so much zombies outside, it was impossible

we have counted 13screamer in 12min...

we made a quest lvl 3 NO screamer...lvl 2 NO screamer, lvl1 no screamer..only at 4+

whats going wrong

 
7daysOfFun said:
today we made a snow quest 4+1,5  (with 3 players)

after shooting 3 zombies > 1 screamer, after then all 30sek a new screamer...we dont had a chance to enter the building because it was so much zombies outside, it was impossible

we have counted 13screamer in 12min...

we made a quest lvl 3 NO screamer...lvl 2 NO screamer, lvl1 no screamer..only at 4+

whats going wrong
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This almost sounds like a bug that happened a few alphas ago where some POIs with torches and candles were contributing to the heat map. From this description it sounds like the heat was already high before you got there and killing just a few zombies was enough to bring it past the threshold and trigger a screamer.

 
AtomicUs5000 said:
7daysOfFun said:
today we made a snow quest 4+1,5  (with 3 players)

after shooting 3 zombies > 1 screamer, after then all 30sek a new screamer...we dont had a chance to enter the building because it was so much zombies outside, it was impossible

we have counted 13screamer in 12min...

we made a quest lvl 3 NO screamer...lvl 2 NO screamer, lvl1 no screamer..only at 4+

whats going wrong
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This almost sounds like a bug
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After about 80 hours in A21, I've had a single screamer that wasn't mining related, and that was clearing a T6 infestation. So yeah, definitely sounds like a bug.

 
Mastermind said:
After about 80 hours in A21, I've had a single screamer that wasn't mining related, and that was clearing a T6 infestation. So yeah, definitely sounds like a bug.
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Someone will have to walk around with the heatmap debug display on and see if they can find the problem POI and report it, if this is indeed the case.

 
Mastermind said:
A mix of sledgehammer and shotgun with some silenced sniper rifle thrown in the mix, like every other T6 Quest before. But before that, I had actually forgot that gunshot can call screamers. 
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Yeah that was what I was thinking.  A shotgun in a POI is going to attract a lot of attention.  When I was testing some custom quests I was making, killing a lot of zombies with any ranged weapon not silenced was drawing screamers to me like flies to honey.

 
BFT2020 said:
Yeah that was what I was thinking.  A shotgun in a POI is going to attract a lot of attention.  When I was testing some custom quests I was making, killing a lot of zombies with any ranged weapon not silenced was drawing screamers to me like flies to honey.
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Um? They were saying the exact opposite was happening.

Mastermind said:
After about 80 hours in A21, I've had a single screamer that wasn't mining related, and that was clearing a T6 infestation. So yeah, definitely sounds like a bug.
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