PC Why is rebar concrete so much more expensive?

[CannedSmeef]

I can mix together 2 times the amount of concrete with the cement mixer directly, versus spending twice as much on the rebar version + the iron. It's literally the same thing, why is the rebar version completely inferior in cost?

 

[Darthjake]

Because it goes direct to R concrete? I dunno, I make wet concrete and just make sure to upgrade the sub floor and corners before I lay in stuff around it.

 

[CannedSmeef]

Because it goes direct to R concrete? I dunno, I make wet concrete and just make sure to upgrade the sub floor and corners before I lay in stuff around it.

Oh, is there actually a difference? I can't tell

 

[JCrook1028]

yes there is a difference. If you make concrete blocks they will still need another upgrade to reinforced concrete to be the same as rebar makes on the first pass. Cost is identical for the end product of both paths. Rebar just lets you see it before making it permanent.

 

[Darthjake]

Yeah if you make a mistake placing rebar you have a chance to correct it before you upgrade it.

 

[Sydious]

With A18 changes and upgrade changes I just start with wood. Getting rid of the scrap iron upgrade is a fantastic change that is not being talked about much, if at all.

 

[Ghostlight]

Rebar + Concrete Mix is superior. You can re-position Rebar and it goes straight to Re-enforced Concrete on drying.

 

[Kalarro]

With A18 changes and upgrade changes I just start with wood. Getting rid of the scrap iron upgrade is a fantastic change that is not being talked about much, if at all.

Do you mean we can upgrade wood frames incto concrete now?

 

[Hollowprime]

To upgrade from iron/cobble frames to concrete you use 10 concrete and get the first stage of concrete. To upgrade to the second stage you need 10 more concrete plus the time needed to cool off.

To upgrade from rebar frames you spend 20 concrete but you get the second,hardest state of concrete immediately and only wait half the time to cool it off (I think).

The question is why was concrete NERFED to cost 12+ mix and require 20 concrete instead of the usual 10 / 10. Why did concrete had to be nerfed? Did it get a boost vs zombie hits? Or is this simply a developer oversight?

 

[Jihh]

The question is why was concrete NERFED to cost 12+ mix and require 20 concrete instead of the usual 10 / 10. Why did concrete had to be nerfed? Did it get a boost vs zombie hits? Or is this simply a developer oversight?

You need more cement than before, but less stone. Overall you need 4400 stone per 1000 concrete mix while you needed 4000 stone per 1000 concrete mix before. That's just 10% more and probably on purpose. It also takes a bit longer to produce, since cement is now 1/3 of the mixture. That way the nerfed cement bags in poi are still very useful in early and mid game, despite not giving concrete mix anymore. I guess it's better overall.

The bigger cost enhancement is that filling up rebars cost 20 concrete mix now. I actually like that too, since in previous alphas I just expanded my base when I progressed to concrete mix, instead of upgrading cobblestone. Now laying the groundwork with cobblestone and upgrading it to concrete later on actually makes sense.

 

[Xtrakicking]

Do you mean we can upgrade wood frames incto concrete now?

You can upgrade them to cobblestone, and then to concrete. You don't need to spend thousands of scrap metal first anymore.