I think you're reading too much into it..... when they say "there is no stealth build" they don't mean there is no such thing as stealth or things that improve stealth. They mean that a character that relies purely on stealth was never intended to be a viable option.
I solo play a lot and I do very well sneaking around and using arrows to take out sleepers in big POIs. I tend to hoard my money and drop on higher level guns so I can sneak through the rest of the week and I tend to be just fine. A lot of the lower quests give you 20 mollys or pipe bombs as rewards, and that holds me over well on hoard nights, so I don't stress. Focusing your build on just one day of the week is missing the rest of the game.
I don't think they're trying to Nerf a particular build, they are making it difficult for any build that's not prepared to handle it. A fortitude build would have to keep one eye on the blue bar and be in a tough situation when it ran out. You could try equipping a bow, it is faster than a crossbow and you can shoot as soon as the arrow is ready. It's a pita no matter what
I think you have misunderstood me. Just because I said that a stealth build is not what the game is designed around doesn’t mean that I think that stealth as a feature is insignificant or marginal in the game.
Annoying, but also some of the best moments in the game.
His point was not really that this happened and complaining about that. The point was that few of the new POI's script attack you EVERY SINGLE ROOM IN THEM. That is quite a problem, I'd say.
I assume you mean "Fire_Station_01", there are only two firestations and they are 01 and 02. EDIT: Yes, 01 has a written "City Fire Station 7" on it.
I understood the point. And we can agree to disagree about the severity of the problem. To me, a mix of fully (or at least highly) stealth-able POIs with OMGWTFBBQ POIs gives some nice variety and surprises. I can absolutely understand how you and other players don't see it that way, and I don't think you or they are wrong. Just different tastes is all.
Prey almost always is in the open. So you can trade stealth for range, for example with a hunting or sniper rifle in perception.
Um, okay, I can't. I guess your opinion is the correct opinion?
My opinion is my own. My question was meant to hopefully do 2 things. Get people to understand my, and possibly the OP's, perspective and hopefully find out if stealth isn't the only part of the game that the game ignores on a whim. Remember, auto-aggro volumes ignore up to 14-18 levels worth of perk investment (how many hours of gameplay that is will vary) without warning. We don't have to agree on everything, much less anything (though we both definitely agree that the game itself can be pretty dang fun to play). Please, if you will, answer these from your perspective. Open to anyone really, this is a public forum.
Shooting is similar. You point at something directly, but whether you hit is a random roll determined by the size of the circle around it compared to the size of the target. If you miss, it isn't your fault and if you don't get the meta information that shooting depends on RPG rules and RNG you might be confused.My opinion is my own. My question was meant to hopefully do 2 things. Get people to understand my, and possibly the OP's, perspective and hopefully find out if stealth isn't the only part of the game that the game ignores on a whim. Remember, auto-aggro volumes ignore up to 14-18 levels worth of perk investment (how many hours of gameplay that is will vary) without warning. We don't have to agree on everything, much less anything (though we both definitely agree that the game itself can be pretty dang fun to play). Please, if you will, answer these from your perspective. Open to anyone really, this is a public forum.
Is there any other mechanic in the game that gets completely ignored without any indication from the game that it will be ignored?
How does a player learn where they messed up when there was nothing they could do to prevent it?
How do they know that there was nothing they could do to prevent it?
What does this teach a player about stealth in 7 Days to Die who is going through the game "blind" (one without the metagame information we have) when they continually encounter these volumes and repeatedly experience stealth's forced failure?
Is getting lucky with the fickle rng so that they happen have a tool (guns, explosives, etc.) to bring that helps them through it the best that should be expected? (This is inspired by @MetalMartyr and others who've made comments about preparation and bringing "better" or "different" tools/weapon.)
With shooting, if you keep shooting at the target you will generally still kill it (or in the case of rabbits using a prim bow, you walk away and hope for an upgrade). With stealth if the observability indicator doesn't increase but you keep getting attacked what is the reasonable conclusion?
