Who wants Alpha 11 as the Sandbox Version
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Kalen
Survivor
You kind of did.... but I took it as you giving your opinion, not necessarily what was going to happen
You kind of did.... but I took it as you giving your opinion, not necessarily what was going to happen
Read it again, it never says it would be A11.
It says no perks/XP like in pre-A11.
Kalen
Survivor
I realize that.... which is why I said "kind of" My point is that it could easily have be interpreted the way it was.... as evidenced by the fact that some people did interpret it that way. For full disclosure, I did NOT interpret it that way.
Roland
Community Moderator
I just answered the dude’s question according to how I think it would need to be done. Plus I said Pre-A11 since A11 was when RPG elements were first introduced. A10 was the last version without any of the constraints that progression systems necessarily add to a game. PLUS I never said that TFP planned to do that.
Hammer wants a community manager so badly he’s now seeing one where none exists…
Hammer wants a community manager so badly he’s now seeing one where none exists…
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Roland
Community Moderator
RPG elements, especially those that force a slower progression than someone likes, are always going to run contrary to that “go anywhere/do anything in any order” aspect of a sandbox that people are saying they want.
You may say “Alpha 16 was perfect!!!” But it still had RPG elements and gates that had to be passed before you could do anything/go anywhere. Maybe you were fine with that level of progression but that’s just selfish. If we truly want sandbox gameplay unfettered so nobody is uncomfortable with running a progression before attaining something they want from the start then Alpha 10 is your base.
BTW, up until A17, all the complainers pined for A10 just like the complainers today pine for A16. Those who long for A16 obviously like progression but just like it implemented differently. Those who want sandbox survival as the foundation of the game want something more like A10 whether they know it or not.
Go boot up A10. There’s no perks, no xp, no traders, no quests, your character stays the same the entire game, you can go anywhere and do anything as long as you maintain your hunger and thirst and the maps are “infinite”. Can’t remember if books or schematics were a thing yet but I don’t think they were.
THIS IS NOT AN OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT.
Just food for thought regarding sandbox mode. If they keep some progression systems in their sandbox mode fine by me since I like the 2.0 up-to-the-gills-with-progression-systems gameplay but there will be some who feel TFP didn’t go far enough and they still can’t play without being forced to do it TFP’s way instead of theirs.
And oh! Removing all RPG elements would go along way towards helping PVP being a more fair battlefield.
You may say “Alpha 16 was perfect!!!” But it still had RPG elements and gates that had to be passed before you could do anything/go anywhere. Maybe you were fine with that level of progression but that’s just selfish. If we truly want sandbox gameplay unfettered so nobody is uncomfortable with running a progression before attaining something they want from the start then Alpha 10 is your base.
BTW, up until A17, all the complainers pined for A10 just like the complainers today pine for A16. Those who long for A16 obviously like progression but just like it implemented differently. Those who want sandbox survival as the foundation of the game want something more like A10 whether they know it or not.
Go boot up A10. There’s no perks, no xp, no traders, no quests, your character stays the same the entire game, you can go anywhere and do anything as long as you maintain your hunger and thirst and the maps are “infinite”. Can’t remember if books or schematics were a thing yet but I don’t think they were.
THIS IS NOT AN OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT.
Just food for thought regarding sandbox mode. If they keep some progression systems in their sandbox mode fine by me since I like the 2.0 up-to-the-gills-with-progression-systems gameplay but there will be some who feel TFP didn’t go far enough and they still can’t play without being forced to do it TFP’s way instead of theirs.
And oh! Removing all RPG elements would go along way towards helping PVP being a more fair battlefield.
zztong
Hunter
Oh, to dream. I'd love that. Perpetual RWG. /swoon
HammerDano
Survivor
did you say...IN MY OPINION first?
NO you did not.
and you do speak for TFP on here. whether you should be or not.
now you are smearing me...because you got caught trying to play stupid about what you said.
THIS is why I say moderators should not be in the chat...they should be MODERATING the chat.
Ideally....you moderators WOULD be fulfilling the roll of a community manager. Only intervening to insert correct info or to quiet arguments.
4sheetzngeegles
Hunter
Sounds great, but, the farther you got from the center of the map, which is when
there was more of a focus on a hub city. The more you would spasm. It had something
to do with 0.0 position not resetting as you moved. Visually and randomly it was great
but unless that twitching were fixed you would be confined to a smaller perimiter than
nav map. "I think it was origin position that it was labeled as".
LittleNightma
Survivor
Dano, the moderators have every right to voice their opinions just like anyone else on these forums. Unless it comes from one of the devs or official sources, it's best to not to take everything you read to heart.
Adam the Waster
Hunter
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You have been chosen
HammerDano
Survivor
Sorry, we disagree,
He speaks for TFP...he has a title. and he just blurted out stuff that would go over like a lead fart in a balloon...how is that good for the community harmony? they are supposed to be concerned about that...not stirring stuff up.
I am not against them posting on separate accounts.
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maybe it should be someone who doesn't behave like this?
YourMirror
Survivor
Everybody knows moderators have an opinion of their own and are allowed to post it. You are the only one pulling your hair over it. This will not change and you have no say in it. Period.
HammerDano
Survivor
thanks cookie monster...glad to hear your opinion
YourMirror
Survivor
You re welcome. Just...its not an opinion. Its a cold fact. Like it or not. You have no say in it. Period.
HammerDano
Survivor
and that is your opinion...it remains to be seen how TFP will behave going forward. Chances are...you are right. Nothing will change.
unfortunately, I like long odds, I don't mind fighting for what I believe is right.
why, I'll bet you personally thought you guys would have gotten rid of me by now. how's that going?
YourMirror
Survivor
You can stay forever. I enjoy you very much. Pure entertainment. And its your hair.
HammerDano
Survivor
well...I am balding and keep it shaved off....maybe you meant the beard? who knows?
and it is going to be one and done bud.
I would only buy a second game from this studio IF it was complete.
Rotor
Survivor
For moi, it is slow, but I dont quest, I dont try to get as fast as I can anywhere. But I like to go everywhere and do every thing. I understand some progression in as much as no one knows everything, so some things should be learned.
So, does it have to be absolute? Is that what we are getting at? I never played any of those As, but even since A20 you can see more and more restrictions, and I guess for those that want it that way, that is okay, and if it cannot be both then so be it, but it seems that the pendulum as swung way to far the other way. Again, their game they can do as they please.
Again some things should be learned.
So, it depends on how you accomplish learning.
Good, the bane of the current game if I may be selfish
.See above.
See first comment about perks.
Woot and unrelated to the above IMO. Other than learning how to survive.