PC When will the controls for the gyrocopter be fixed?

warmer said:
Fair question. The Intellect level requires a huge investment. That's the gate. It was purely a guess by playing with 20+ odd people over time in private MP servers and none of us had ever gotten one legit. Vehicle tier investment is really rare. Way more people go for strength than intellect given how effective a strength upgrade is for most of your actions while grinding for resources. It would be interesting to see the stats in player level choices if TFP has those metrics.
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There are two other ways to get a gyrocopter without investing into the intellect tree. You can find the schematics for the accessories and the chassis or you can buy a gyrocopter from a trader. On multiplayer servers there is even another possibility. Someone else can craft a gyrocopter for you.

I am surprised that there are no Intellect specialists on your multiplayer server. They are usually the ones who sell things to the traders and craft the vehicles for the other players.
 

 
@warmer So you rely on luck finding all the recipes for minibike, forge, workbench, chemstation and first aid in MP? I don´t even do this in SP. Also you can reduce costs for crafting in the forge with advanced engineering. Better barter so you don´t have to rely on luck for the crucible is also a must have imo.

We do play on survivalist and getting a motorcycle legit is not a problem at all and we still can have enough points invested for mining troughout the group. With at least one having points in intellect and better barter we usually can buy the recipe for the  4x4 and the gyrocopter from the trader or loot it at some point.

 
Unless you're only going a couple hundred meters, gyrocopter is by far faster. Even as short as 3-400m, the gyrocopter is faster unless you're literally going in a straight paved road. For cities, I do prefer to carry around a motorcycle or a 4x4 with me due to the density of buildings making taking off again after landing a bit slower. So I'll fly to the trader, and pack away the gyrocopter, and use the car for most quests which are under 300m. But even for intra-city quests >300m, I'll still use the gyro.

I get the feeling this post was just a bit of a rage complaint. Died, and therefore the gyrocopter is at fault.

 
Gyrocopter is fine, it takes practice.

That being said though, on my last server we had 7 players and almost none of them except me used a gyrocopter consistently.  She's a harsh mistress.  But a fun and useful ride for those that can handle her.

 
pApA^LeGBa said:
@warmer So you rely on luck finding all the recipes for minibike, forge, workbench, chemstation and first aid in MP? 
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Not at all what I said. what I implied is that getting to that level to craft a gyro based on stats alone is a GIGANTIC investment. Since they introduced bicycles as a quest reward I have stopped spending point beyond getting a forge based on stats for most play throughs. Bicycles are my main vehicle. No gas and silent essentially. Much easier to be stealthy in the wasteland on a bike than a gas powered vehicle. I usually find a trader/POI with a working bench or chemstation pretty quickly.

 
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@warmer There is no working crafting stations at traders or in POI´s anymore in A20. And as said, the gyro recipes/parts are mostly bought at the trader due to having invested in INT and better barter, wich also gives you guaranteed access to a crucible in the secret stash. And tbh i have yet to see a vehicle attract zombies. They only recognize me when i am really near them and that´s the same as on the bicycle. Really rather save a LOT of time beeing way faster when traveling, even on survivalist i can spare the points for the motorcycle.

 
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Learn to fly it, its not that hard, do people just give up that easily??, how much easy do players want things to be? its a zombie end of the world game, nothing is easy, its survival

a gyrocopter isnt supposed to be a fancy super dooper flying machine, it is what it is

if players cant control it, then thats down to the players keyboard skills, not the game

 
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In vanilla, there are no working crafting stations.

Overhaul mods may be different. I know darkness falls added back working workstations at traders and such.

 
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