PC What else is planned for 2.0?

You two are arguing over a small technicality: How versions are called. Get over it.

While Roland is objectively correct how anyone in the software bussiness would call it (the major version would usually be called "version 2"), the version numbers are ALSO used for marketing and we all know that marketing follows no rules ;). And the general public often doesn't care for or even fears tech jargon and likes to call it whatever they want.
 
You two are arguing over a small technicality
Just two? Not 2.0? (The whole thread seems to unhinge upon that distinction..)

I'm not even sure if the OP is trying to ask "what other goodies are we getting before Three", or "what else is still going to delay us from Three (and how long will that take)".
 
You two are arguing over a small technicality: How versions are called. Get over it.
I’m over it. As I said. The numbering is arbitrary. It doesn’t really matter if it’s called 2.5 or 2.0. What it comes down to is that Hammer doesn’t want to play until all of the features are in and there won’t be any more updates until 3.0. He only wants to experience the complete final 2.ultimate version. Therefore he is obviously very interested for when that will be and what exactly that will look like.

Unfortunately for him, the future is too uncertain to speculate on how many more 2.x updates there will be or what exact features will make it in or what features will slip to 3.0.
 
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I’m over it. As I said. The numbering is arbitrary. It doesn’t really matter if it’s called 2.5 or 2.0. What it comes down to is that Hammer doesn’t want to play until all of the features are in and there won’t be any more updates until 3.0. He only wants to experience the complete final 2.ultimate version. Therefore he is obviously very interested for when that will be and what exactly that will look like.

Unfortunately for him, the future is too uncertain to speculate on how many more 2.x updates there will be or what exact features will make it in or what features will slip to 3.0.
Well, that changed already. Now he is realizing that is a losing battle, he has shifted to being spokesman for the entire socialmedia community. I find it disturbing behaviour. That is a imo ofcourse.
 
Well, that changed already. Now he is realizing that is a losing battle, he has shifted to being spokesman for the entire socialmedia community. I find it disturbing behaviour. That is a imo ofcourse.
what a load of ■■■■. pointing out the obvious is not becoming the spokesman...keep making personal attacks...it not like you can refute the arguments. so keep going the lazy route. your ignorant insinuations carry no weight with me.
 
I’m over it. As I said. The numbering is arbitrary. It doesn’t really matter if it’s called 2.5 or 2.0. What it comes down to is that Hammer doesn’t want to play until all of the features are in and there won’t be any more updates until 3.0. He only wants to experience the complete final 2.ultimate version. Therefore he is obviously very interested for when that will be and what exactly that will look like.

Unfortunately for him, the future is too uncertain to speculate on how many more 2.x updates there will be or what exact features will make it in or what features will slip to 3.0.
what changed between the time they set the road map dates and now? what blew out the time line THEY SET sooooo badly there just no point in worrying about any dates, at all, ever? You can say the reception to 2.0 was poor...that pushed things back. cool. It was already late before that. does that mean that they can't get the other updates out in the 6 month period they said they could do it in? with some wiggle room....but, not say, three times longer than they said it would take? is that also completely out of the question?
the numbering system is arbitrary? everything seems to be arbitrary...it's not that I am wrong...it's that you don't want to hear it...more Ostrich behavior.
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Just two? Not 2.0? (The whole thread seems to unhinge upon that distinction..)

I'm not even sure if the OP is trying to ask "what other goodies are we getting before Three", or "what else is still going to delay us from Three (and how long will that take)".
I am asking IF there will be any other delays...if there is content...I am not asking to know what it is. Just if there is more that will delay 3.0 I hope that clears it up.
 
You two are arguing over a small technicality: How versions are called. Get over it.

While Roland is objectively correct how anyone in the software bussiness would call it (the major version would usually be called "version 2"), the version numbers are ALSO used for marketing and we all know that marketing follows no rules ;). And the general public often doesn't care for or even fears tech jargon and likes to call it whatever they want.
sorry, but, He's the one who is famous for that bs splitting of hairs argument style. Why would I show more humility than him?
 
what changed between the time they set the road map dates and now? what blew out the time line THEY SET sooooo badly there just no point in worrying about any dates, at all, ever? You can say the reception to 2.0 was poor...that pushed things back. cool. It was already late before that. does that mean that they can't get the other updates out in the 6 month period they said they could do it in? with some wiggle room....but, not say, three times longer than they said it would take? is that also completely out of the question?
the numbering system is arbitrary? everything seems to be arbitrary...it's not that I am wrong...it's that you don't want to hear it...more Ostrich behavior.
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I am asking IF there will be any other delays...if there is content...I am not asking to know what it is. Just if there is more that will delay 3.0 I hope that clears it up.
Your anger is not getting you anywhere. Also trying to put in weight for your "arguments" by stating the whole world is agreeing with you is not getting you anywhere. Its just not gonna work. Pimps will not comply to your "mission" of being right. You can get more angry, you can pretend the whole world is agreeing with you. And still Pimps do what Pimps do. Not considdering your OCD of being right. I really feel sorry for you. But you are kind of insifficant, but think you are very important and can determine if a dev studio has any obligation to listen to you, a mere buyer of the game. Just learn to live with it. Its...not....going...to...happen. Start pulling your hair over it.
 
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Your anger is not getting you anywhere. Also trying to put in weight for your "arguments" by stating the whole world is agreeing with you is not getting you anywhere. Its just not gonna work. Pimps will not comply to your "mission" of being right. You can get more angry, you can pretend the whole world is agreeing with you. And still Pimps do what Pimps do. Not considdering your OCD of being right. I really feel sorry for you. But you are kind of insifficant, but think you are very important and can determine if a dev studio has any obligation to listen to you, a mere buyer of the game. Just learn to live with it. Its...not....going...to...happen. Start pulling your hair over it.
you are inventing fictions...I make sure to not claim to be speaking for anyone. Those arguments have been beaten to death. Pointing out where someone COULD find answers is not "speaking for everyone". Pointing out that every single post they make, is full of other people saying these things is meant to give you an opportunity to look for yourself...you don't have to take my word...and again...I am not claiming to speak for everyone.

side note...how can you type all these fictions on a device and still have spelling that atrocious?

And since you brought it up...there's more than a few people on this Forum that should worry about their own anger bs. Look at yourselves. Look at the amount of unjustified push back and insults I get about this. It is irrational. You know they should communicate...you know they are very far behind what they sold the game on. You should know I am right to question if 3.0 is going to be further delayed...so why all the anger? just because I am not just letting it go? THIS IS A FORUM NOT A FAN CLUB.
my answer is always going to be ■■■■ that...you don't reward this behavior with praise.
 
you are inventing fictions...I make sure to not claim to be speaking for anyone. Those arguments have been beaten to death. Pointing out where someone COULD find answers is not "speaking for everyone". Pointing out that every single post they make, is full of other people saying these things is meant to give you an opportunity to look for yourself...you don't have to take my word...and again...I am not claiming to speak for everyone.

side note...how can you type all these fictions on a device and still have spelling that atrocious?

And since you brought it up...there's more than a few people on this Forum that should worry about their own anger bs. Look at yourselves. Look at the amount of unjustified push back and insults I get about this. It is irrational. You know they should communicate...you know they are very far behind what they sold the game on. You should know I am right to question if 3.0 is going to be further delayed...so why all the anger? just because I am not just letting it go? THIS IS A FORUM NOT A FAN CLUB.
my answer is always going to be ■■■■ that...you don't reward this behavior with praise.
Yes, get more angry. Won't help. Keep trying. Its almost moving. Have any hair left? :)
 
just because I am not just letting it go?
Kinda yes. They have announced that 3.0 will be delayed, they haven't given new dates. They have no obligation to deploy more bad guesses. It is delayed indefinitely. Let it go. Until they announce something different, you can feel free to assume it's at least half a year away. Not because it is necessarily true, but because it'll give you some peace of mind. Just let it go, it's not coming yet.
 
Yes, get more angry. Won't help. Keep trying. Its almost moving. Have any hair left? :)
you are not even trying to engage with what is being said...you are just trolling...■■■■ off under your bridge bud.
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Kinda yes. They have announced that 3.0 will be delayed, they haven't given new dates. They have no obligation to deploy more bad guesses. It is delayed indefinitely. Let it go. Until they announce something different, you can feel free to assume it's at least half a year away. Not because it is necessarily true, but because it'll give you some peace of mind. Just let it go, it's not coming yet.
No...sorry, but, no.

They can just ban me completely, but, I am not going to accept "just take it" as an answer.
 
I'm not worried about me, so no sorries required. But the horse is already dead, splattering yourself with its giblets isn't doing you any favors ;)
your concern is not necessary, I do get that you guys don't want to hear the same fair criticism of TFP...I do get that. I just cannot and will not just "drop it". It's too much like white collar crime...people just accept it as inevitable and will not hold rich people accountable...or punishable. they lack the will.
 
I do get that you guys don't want to hear the same fair criticism of TFP
I can't really say I consider it fair, either; but that's beside the point. Whether it is fair or isn't, it's bringing you nothing but more annoyance every time. And while some of us seem to like to spend our time trolling you for it, it's simply making the forum a less pleasant place for almost everyone. No winners here.
 
I can't really say I consider it fair, either; but that's beside the point. Whether it is fair or isn't, it's bringing you nothing but more annoyance every time. And while some of us seem to like to spend our time trolling you for it, it's simply making the forum a less pleasant place for almost everyone. No winners here.
well..we agree there are no winners here
 
what changed between the time they set the road map dates and now? what blew out the time line THEY SET sooooo badly there just no point in worrying about any dates, at all, ever? You can say the reception to 2.0 was poor...that pushed things back. cool. It was already late before that. does that mean that they can't get the other updates out in the 6 month period they said they could do it in? with some wiggle room....but, not say, three times longer than they said it would take? is that also completely out of the question?

Three times longer? Part of 2.0 was delivered before Christmas 2024 and the rest was delivered July of 2025. If you want to discount the partial release in 2024 then at most the 2.0 update came 7 months late which would be about double the time estimated. A seven month late delivery in software development is not extraordinary and the fact that the game was playable the whole time so that people could still play while they waited made it a lot less impactful.

As I said, the only reason for someone to doggedly hold onto the idea that the current version still counts as 2.0 is purely to claim that they are now almost one year past their estimated delivery date. That's the only way you can get three times longer-- you're counting the additional work they are doing in the 2.x updates as part of 2.0 all to make your claims.

As I said, that's fine for you to believe to keep that anger kindled but that doesn't make it true. 2.0 was 7 months late due to crossplay issues and finishing up the rest of the features they had planned. Stuff like that happens. 3.0 will probably be a year delayed (from when 2.0 released) because they are taking time to do this community update that wasn't planned or scheduled.
 
your concern is not necessary, I do get that you guys don't want to hear the same fair criticism of TFP...I do get that. I just cannot and will not just "drop it".
Is this saying you will continue pestering this forum with the same repetitive inane whining over a game developer spending more time on releasing a game then originally expected? If so, I hope this admission to future trolling is sufficient for a permaban.
 
Is this saying you will continue pestering this forum with the same repetitive inane whining over a game developer spending more time on releasing a game then originally expected? If so, I hope this admission to future trolling is sufficient for a permaban.
your reading comprehension seems to be severely lacking...what a shame.
You seem to have missed that the THRUST all along, has been to get better communication. Yes, About the delays. I know it must be difficult to follow the plot, but, I will try to help you, as much as I can. It is like inception (the movie) my argument about the game being so far behind is the justification for why TFP should grow as a company, and actually communicate ABOUT THE DELAYS. Unlike the movie there are no further layers of crawling up it's own ■■■. It is THAT simple.
I have heard more than once that, I am not the only one who wants better communication, that you guys would like more communication too, but I just don't have any right to expect it. That TFP don't owe us anything...just bend over and take it. that is just insane. Do with that what you will. I said what I meant.
 
Three times longer? Part of 2.0 was delivered before Christmas 2024 and the rest was delivered July of 2025. If you want to discount the partial release in 2024 then at most the 2.0 update came 7 months late which would be about double the time estimated. A seven month late delivery in software development is not extraordinary and the fact that the game was playable the whole time so that people could still play while they waited made it a lot less impactful.

As I said, the only reason for someone to doggedly hold onto the idea that the current version still counts as 2.0 is purely to claim that they are now almost one year past their estimated delivery date. That's the only way you can get three times longer-- you're counting the additional work they are doing in the 2.x updates as part of 2.0 all to make your claims.

As I said, that's fine for you to believe to keep that anger kindled but that doesn't make it true. 2.0 was 7 months late due to crossplay issues and finishing up the rest of the features they had planned. Stuff like that happens. 3.0 will probably be a year delayed (from when 2.0 released) because they are taking time to do this community update that wasn't planned or scheduled.
I used three time longer as simple math. 6 months per Major Update...a year and a half and no completed Major Update. 3x. You can chop that parsley as fine as you want, it won't change that the entire length of the road map, will have passed, With no completed Major Update. Yes, some of that has been spent fixing 2.0 but even at slightly more than double the time they estimated, I still feel i am not out of line to expect better communication.

YOU keep saying that my motivation is just to make a claim, that the length of the delay is longer, to strengthen my anger?
Crossplay was something that THEY said over and over that they could do. That it was easy. and then they didn't apply for it...because they lost track of time. because that is a pattern of theirs. Bad time management and getting sidetracked. Remember... THEY let us argue about which platform was denying the process when they knew they had not even applied. When they knew that console gamers were waiting eagerly for it.
My motivation is not as simplistic as you want to characterise it....but. I do get WHY you want to discredit me.

3.0 will be a delayed a year? thanks, but...I already know that my calendar works. what I was getting at was will TFP meet the 6 months they gave themselves to do it? will that part happen in the time they originally said they could do it? was 2.0 a hiccup or the norm. at two time longer it's another 2ish years...3x is 3 and a bit more years to finish the game.

They sold this with a tight schedule and then just went back to wandering around like nothing had changed. I'm being told to just relax...it will take as long as it takes, they do not need to change or communicate, but, I see that as an excuse to just not admit that I am right about what my last ban was for.
THEY DID NOT NEED TO USE OVERLY OPTIMISTIC DATES TO SELL THIS TO CONSOLE
they could have just been honest and let US decide if we wanted to give them more money to finish their game in 3-5 years
some would, some wouldn't, but, no one would have any right, to be irate, about anything right now, would they?
 
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