HammerDano
Survivor
wrong...they are still fixing and replacing what they put out. there is a lot missing yet...so no it is not complete.
PC V2.0 Storms Brewing Dev Diary
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4sheetzngeegles
Hunter
I'm sorry, I meant it literally. Will it be, a property in xml that I can plug and play into my player
or is it coded to food items only. When you introduce new things, even though this is a reintroduction,
I try by experimentation. to get them to do more and alternate things, for myself.
You have enough on your plate streamlining the game, I've slowed down on asks. Besides having a
constant detriment, like entering the game permanently infected or having constant buildup of seekers,
doesn't seem like it would be a popular thing at the moment. Unless in a mod, so that is what I do for me.
KirillWright
Scavenger
Adam the Waster
Hunter
beerfly
Colony Rounder
It is a bit shy, also. If I was something to be implemented in a game for food, I would need some time to prepare.
Adam the Waster
Hunter
If its gonna be like the old days then I just see them running around. And slip under my nose. Lmao.
I hope they make hogs aggressive tho do to it cuz hogs being passive (outside of pois) is just silly. Hogs are mean as hell.
And I know wrong place but more wildlife would be so nice to make the world feels alive. The snow is my favorite biome cuz i get to see direwolves hunting deer, frostclaws hunting bears and failing, its cool
Space4Ace
Survivor
Why do you say "yes"? How do you know? It could have been cancelled. Not showing up after over a year and a half since they showed the model... I mean, really?
We want a TFP staff member to answer that, please: Is the Pig still planned?
Adam the Waster
Hunter
Homeboy I have no idea why you gotta be so sly with your responses with me. Did i break your Jars or something?
Awhile ago I asked faatal is the pig still coming. He said yes but not a priority rn. This was before the town hall meeting
beerfly
Colony Rounder
Can`t disagree with this, every animal have its own behavior especially when it have to defend itself. It would add another form of survival not only for us.
Imagine being starved in winter biome, cold enough to die soon, but need food to get you out of there. Just having a shot at one would be too easy, probably in late game it would, but early one, this should be a challenge.
Imagine being starved in winter biome, cold enough to die soon, but need food to get you out of there. Just having a shot at one would be too easy, probably in late game it would, but early one, this should be a challenge.
Adam the Waster
Hunter
I suggested a food chain system but I do like your idea too. But stuff like deer back then were a bit tanky to kill. It didnt take 1 stone arrow it took like 3. Plus the bleed out. And 2 shots with a standard hunting rifle (aside from head shots)
But some prey animals shouldn't attack. Maybe male chickens cuz roosters are mean
Male deer can be pretty territorial if you sneak up on them but most deer rather run then fight.
Hogs are just monsters and will murder you over a box of stale popcorn
Wolves/coyotes should go in packs cuz 1 is easy to take out but a group? It would be harder but risk and reward.
Ill take the rest to the pimp dreams section or repost mine old idea
Roland
Community Moderator
Roadmap Expectation for 2.0
Weather System & Biome Progression Overhaul
Wardrobe System
Crossplay
Random Gen for Console
Additional Zombie Stages
Spawn near Friend
Twitch Drops
Outfit DLC
2.0 Features Delivered
Weather System & Biome Progression Overhaul
Wardrobe System
Crossplay
Random Gen for Console
Additional Zombie Stages
Spawn near Friend
Twitch Drops
Outfit DLC
2.x Features in addition to what was promised in 2.0
Water Survival Overhaul
Apiary
Global temperature and weather survival overhaul
Clothing
Zombie Smell Overhaul
Improvements and Balance Adjustments to Existing Systems and Features
It is pretty clear that 2.0 was complete. It delivered on all promised features-- nothing missing. That some people didn't like the new features doesn't change the fact that it checked every box that was planned. Not everyone was displeased with the 2.0 features. I wasn't pleased with the badges but I very much agreed with and enjoyed the lootstage caps and biome progression. Others hated that and ultimately TFP decided that the feedback in opposition to lootstage caps and biome progression was something they also wanted to change and so they adjusted and enhanced the feature to make it less of a linear progression. That doesn't mean that they delivered an incomplete feature. It was done.
Looking at the additional features that have come and still are coming to 2.x versions, it is also clear that these versions go beyond what 2.0 was envisioned and planned to be and what was delivered. The adjustments that we've seen to the biome hazards, biome progression, and that we soon will see with storms are enhancements added thanks to feedback and iterative development. 2.0 was not missing the storm feature just because in a future 2.x update there will be additions and enhancements to the storm gameplay.
You are not the type of person, apparently, that enjoys trying out every iteration. You just want to play the final version of a feature. That's fine but is probably going to be impossible as additional changes and enhancements to existing features will be coming in 3.0 and 4.0.
Trader quests were introduced in A17 but 4.0 lists a trader overhaul as well as a new quest type as features. By your logic, then, even A17 is still not complete and if you had been around in A17 you would be wondering when they would finally finish A17.0 so you could start playing...
The truth is that if these new versions were considered by the developers, themselves, to be 2.0 then they would all be labeled as 2.0 with higher build numbers. There have been experimentals that receive additional updates in the past and those updates don't progress to the next .x number. They remain at the current version number but with a new build number.
We all know why you would prefer to label 2.4 and 2.5 and 2.6 all as simply 2.0. With you it is always about when delivery was promised and when delivery was made and you are simply building a narrative that 2.0 was promised in Q4 2024 but wasn't delivered complete until Q4 2025 or maybe even Q1 2026-- over a year late. That sounds a lot better for your agenda than that part of 2.0 was delivered in Q4 2024 and the rest in Q2 2025.
EvilPolygons
Survivor
Jeez what is up with all the EOS console spam lately? It's getting obnoxious.
HammerDano
Survivor
@Roland What ■■■■ING AGENDA???
do you not get that there's no agenda...how did I steer things to end up this way? you are ridiculous...faatal is still talking about adjusting the storms...remind me again....what was this update called? oh yeah...storm's brewing. You can keep screaming it is done...and it is not. THAT'S NOT AN AGENDA.
do you not get that there's no agenda...how did I steer things to end up this way? you are ridiculous...faatal is still talking about adjusting the storms...remind me again....what was this update called? oh yeah...storm's brewing. You can keep screaming it is done...and it is not. THAT'S NOT AN AGENDA.
ParadiseLostUK
Scavenger
It may not be an agenda but it is an opinion. You know what they say about opinions right?
Space4Ace
Survivor
Why are you so upset? I just wish you would explain instead of just saying "yes". I guess I missed that post from Faatal because every time I asked about the pig, I never got any answer from anyone. I guess I didn't see that reply from him to your message.
Space4Ace
Survivor
That's why I always try to call it 2.X (since nobody knows how far it will go... 2.5, 2.6 or more).
TFP should call the next major update 3 or 3.X (again, because we don't know far it will go). Roland, please make it a thing... And you're welcome!
Laz Man
Fun Pimps Staff
You can watch someone streaming 7d2d right now. Doesn't have to be Fubar Prime.
I watched several different 7d2d streamers this morning and finished mine for the twitch drop.
Roland
Community Moderator
"agenda" may not apply depending on your intentions which I don't know. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on that until such time as you either prove me right or wrong. faatal is adjusting the storms based on player feedback. It doesn't mean he didn't finish the storm update as it was originally conceived for 2.0. The July 2025 version of storms was complete and intended as the full feature. It was not released as a partially done concept. The October/November 2025 version of storms will be a different thing with completely new features never originally intended for 2.0.
You can keep screaming that it isn't done but if I revert back to the actual 2.0 version of the Storms Brewing Update, it has storms. Plus, I really enjoyed them as I was not one of those people who thought they had to sit in their base until they were over. Not only that, but I actually did play with storms while they were an unfinished feature for months leading up to the July release and the storms we got in July were definitely a finished product by comparison. I just posted above the planned features for 2.0 and the actual released features for 2.0. They match. The 2.0 version was complete. Acknowledge that fact or post what was missing from the list. Just because a fully finished feature isn't implemented in exactly the way you liked doesn't mean it was missing or unfinished.
They can continue to enhance and improve features based on feedback without it meaning that they never finished them. That's why traders and quests will be updated and improved in 4.0 but nobody (not even you) will call it finally finishing A17.
HammerDano
Survivor
my only intentions are to continue to advocate for better communication, as I have been. I know your attitude is that the timings they gave with the roadmap should not matter. well they do...I only bought back in BECAUSE of the roadmap TIMINGS. Did I think that they would be able to strictly follow it...no...I added an extra 6 months. It quickly became apparent that absolutely NOTHING has changed in how long each Alpha takes. Does not seem like there was any intention to follow those timings either...considering they are STILL IMAGINEERING not buttoning up the game (like the tight timeline implied). How they sold it vs what they are delivering, it's not okay with me.
I know you hate this part, but, we are supposed to be seeing 4.0 content right now, and I got you arguing that we HAVE 2.0 complete right now...except the parts that are not done yet.
How Hard is it for YOU and TFP to actually acknowledge how far behind THEY ARE and give better communication about how long the rest is taking?
Jesus wept...if me pointing this stuff out is too much...just change the name from Forum to fan club.