PC V2.0 Storms Brewing Dev Diary
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Old Crow
Well-known member
I have a feeling those mods are probably going away, and the perk likely will as well, if temperature isn't going to mean anything anymore.
vergilsparda
Active member
at the risk of sounding like a broken record, given that this is officially the weather-change update... is it even in the realm of possibility that rainstorms (thunderstorms, especially) provide a sneaking boost due to the sound of heavy rain and thunder/lightning? It'd be awesome if that was possible. Like, the coolest thing ever lol
And as always, if the POI builders are here... any more POIs updated to the new Version 1.0+ style, and any progress photos of new POIs that you can share? I'm always hungry for those... like beyond hungry, perhaps starving!
And as always, if the POI builders are here... any more POIs updated to the new Version 1.0+ style, and any progress photos of new POIs that you can share? I'm always hungry for those... like beyond hungry, perhaps starving!
4sheetzngeegles
Well-known member
This may be inaccurate "conjecture" but to me it make sense. It solely comes from reading Dev posts and responses.
I view it from a different perspective. How do you squeeze an open world sandbox into a linear story driven
RPG and make make it work in one entity. Some options, "Rewrite the entire game, completely shelve one or the other,
Invest a lot of time and rewrites additions and subtractions to attempt a merger that's not guaranteed over and over
until they fit or fail, all are possible but probably not from reading dev and owner posts in this forum. Or introduce
a MacGuffin or plot device with a switch, that allows both as a complete but separate entity, and leave the ability
to mod, and if there is enough interest a modder will create an overhaul and converge the two.
The last option allows the developers and owners more flexibility, and freedom to focus and make all of it better at one time,
and without having to split focus.
It also is using something that was a part of the first releases, Game modes. It would allow different play styles in one
game using a simple menu selector and on/off switch. This guarantees that no one style feels slighted or forced to play
a way that they don't like. Plus unless there is a 'once selected all other selections are permanently locked out command', it
would allow a player that wants to play sandbox today, but role-play a bit tomorrow to just back out to the main menu,
and press a button load back up and you are playing the a more linear mode, or vise versa, going from linear to open,
neither cancelling the other out. One of the main things always advocated for is options, I see it as providing that.
I also see it as allowing TFP to simultaneously, or in parallel build and roll out a game mode that they want personally.
A popular game that I love and will use as an example is Darksouls 1-2-3, Elden Ring, and Shadow of the Erd Tree.
DS 1 2 3 and elden ring, are Open world and you can run around raising skills and weapons tiers and levels to your hearts
content make yourself Uber then run through the story, go fight the boss with your demigod like powers and win, the end.
Shadow of the Erd Tree flipped the script a bit, Naotoshi Zin, decided you can keep your uber skills and armor and weapons
but they have diminished capacity in this new world. There are a new set of challenges and rules to overcome and abide by,
but they will still follow what is familiar. You can run around and upgrade to a tempered extent, but the story progression, still
has specific doors to open for progression to get stronger stuff, the doors have guardians. Guardians to me are still just animated
gates for progression. They give you a show. The rest is just semantics.
I view it from a different perspective. How do you squeeze an open world sandbox into a linear story driven
RPG and make make it work in one entity. Some options, "Rewrite the entire game, completely shelve one or the other,
Invest a lot of time and rewrites additions and subtractions to attempt a merger that's not guaranteed over and over
until they fit or fail, all are possible but probably not from reading dev and owner posts in this forum. Or introduce
a MacGuffin or plot device with a switch, that allows both as a complete but separate entity, and leave the ability
to mod, and if there is enough interest a modder will create an overhaul and converge the two.
The last option allows the developers and owners more flexibility, and freedom to focus and make all of it better at one time,
and without having to split focus.
It also is using something that was a part of the first releases, Game modes. It would allow different play styles in one
game using a simple menu selector and on/off switch. This guarantees that no one style feels slighted or forced to play
a way that they don't like. Plus unless there is a 'once selected all other selections are permanently locked out command', it
would allow a player that wants to play sandbox today, but role-play a bit tomorrow to just back out to the main menu,
and press a button load back up and you are playing the a more linear mode, or vise versa, going from linear to open,
neither cancelling the other out. One of the main things always advocated for is options, I see it as providing that.
I also see it as allowing TFP to simultaneously, or in parallel build and roll out a game mode that they want personally.
A popular game that I love and will use as an example is Darksouls 1-2-3, Elden Ring, and Shadow of the Erd Tree.
DS 1 2 3 and elden ring, are Open world and you can run around raising skills and weapons tiers and levels to your hearts
content make yourself Uber then run through the story, go fight the boss with your demigod like powers and win, the end.
Shadow of the Erd Tree flipped the script a bit, Naotoshi Zin, decided you can keep your uber skills and armor and weapons
but they have diminished capacity in this new world. There are a new set of challenges and rules to overcome and abide by,
but they will still follow what is familiar. You can run around and upgrade to a tempered extent, but the story progression, still
has specific doors to open for progression to get stronger stuff, the doors have guardians. Guardians to me are still just animated
gates for progression. They give you a show. The rest is just semantics.
Arez
Well-known member
So in the pine forest getting rained on will have no ill effect I presume?
How about a very very small chance that a player can get struck by lightning during a thunderstorm? Like a 0.01% probability. Imagine the FEAR players would have about being out during a storm, and how cool it would be once it happens. People would be posting it all over the 7 Days Reddit!
I got the math from ChatGPT. She said with that probability it would still be extremely rare to get struck. About 1 in 500 players would get struck within a 200 day playthrough.
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Skarbero
New member
Something id love to see with the new dessert spitter is a buff too lumberjacks making them tankier than Whights and keeping them snow biome only, then adding specific zombies for each biome 
maybe like pine - nothing - burning forest - burning zombies - dessert - spitter - snow - lumberjack - and wastland who knows maybe behemoth?
maybe like pine - nothing - burning forest - burning zombies - dessert - spitter - snow - lumberjack - and wastland who knows maybe behemoth? 
Laz Man
Fun Pimps Staff
RipClaw
Well-known member
Don't forget to record the appropriate voice lines. Here is an example of successful videogame bandit robbery.When we are working on the Bandit update, I will remind you about that bush...
Laz Man
Fun Pimps Staff
I don't remember exactly but it doesn't come without trade offs. I think we talked about it before and doing so created new problems that would need to be solved. Who knows, maybe one day.
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Arez
Well-known member
@Laz Man Hey, MichaelL devised a method to create prefabs that allow for sleeper zombies to be underground and come out to the surface when triggered, effectively looking like they're coming out of a grave, like they do in real life.
It doesn't require anything special besides a specific block configuration to ensure they don't fall through the ground upon awakening or get stuck underground. Would that be something you guys would be willing to try for at least POIs that have graves? The only downside is that the ground doesn't get disturbed once they exit the grave.
It doesn't require anything special besides a specific block configuration to ensure they don't fall through the ground upon awakening or get stuck underground. Would that be something you guys would be willing to try for at least POIs that have graves? The only downside is that the ground doesn't get disturbed once they exit the grave.
FranticDan
Well-known member
yeah, and what about a flame thrower and grenade launcher, to go with the rocket launcher
EDIT: well clearly the site glitched on me here, thinking it failed to send a few times
Well, the modder who made PathSmoothing a reality said he did it in less than 150 lines of code. I've been using it for about 2 years now and the vanilla pathing is very jarring to watch, and adds what I call "artificial difficulty".
What are these trade offs exactly?
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Grandpa Minion
Active member
can you clearify what you meant on this? where you talking about them complaing over settargetfps only being 20 hardset by tfp or actual fps loss due to entity count?
im trying to understand why anyone would have an issue with fps at all?
our server gets 2x the amount that is hardset with 340 entitys spawnd...
SylenThunder
Community Moderator / IT Guru
They were talking about client FPS and you are talking about server FPS. They are not the same thing.
Also your image is from using unsupported mods using a method known to cause instability.
kodonokami
New member
Oh my god, I really want to play version 2.0 
I know it's a bit different, but one thing I think would be really cool if it was in the game is the effect of weapon wear, and also by quality. For example, quality 1 could have a worn or old sprite, and 5 could have a new one (6 could be gold, something to make it stand out). If it had 10% durability, it could be dirtier than 100%, it would be clean and it would toggle between them. I think the ability to reuse a door after getting the key would be cool too. Also, a variety of weapons for the same level could give the player a preference, different scopes with different reticles (PU, PSO1 etc),
I know it's a bit different, but one thing I think would be really cool if it was in the game is the effect of weapon wear, and also by quality. For example, quality 1 could have a worn or old sprite, and 5 could have a new one (6 could be gold, something to make it stand out). If it had 10% durability, it could be dirtier than 100%, it would be clean and it would toggle between them. I think the ability to reuse a door after getting the key would be cool too. Also, a variety of weapons for the same level could give the player a preference, different scopes with different reticles (PU, PSO1 etc),
Something id love to see with the new dessert spitter is a buff too lumberjacks making them tankier than Whights and keeping them snow biome only, then adding specific zombies for each biome
Not everyone seems to read the official communications by TFP
: "Several new biome-specific zombie types, such as the desert plague spitter "
Oh my god, I really want to play version 2.0
TFP have said in the past that they don't want redundant items that practically feel and act the same. This is only partly a shooter, it won't have the customizability and pathological attention to weapons that a dedicated shooter has.
Similarily, degradation had been tested on players in some previous alphas and was controversial enough and didn't fit with new weapon features so it was finally scrapped. Not likely that dropped features are coming back.
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