PC Underground bases are still safe

[pApA^LeGBa]

No one will not buy the game because others could play safe. Espcially not in SP/Coop focused games.

People will not buy the game if they think it is too hard tough.

Just saying.

Also i think there is waaaay more importnant things than caring about what others do in the game. It´s not like you have to go underground.

Don´t like it? Don´t do it.

It´s a shame that they wasted time with this, when there is so many other things to take care off that effect all playstyles.

PvP needs an extramode, nothing should be changed in SP/CooP mode only to balance/fix a PvP problem. This goes for everything in the game.

Not saying i want indestructible super safe underground bases only, but don´t fix this right now, and imo there needs to be another solution than digging zombies. It´s a fkn cheap way.

Will always lead to swiss cheese. Wich is not taking away underground bases. But it makes them VERY unattractive to play with. (ofc i am assuming here that is is intended that the Z`s get you, no matter how deep) You either rebuild your base elsewhere all the time or you constantly fill holes. Both not very inviting tasks to motivate you to play/buy the game. Basically the same as making underground impossible.

 

[Krougal]

I still don't see why there is so much hate for it. Digging down to bedrock and then digging out a base is a ♥♥♥♥ing chore. Think you deserve somewhere to craft in peace and quiet after that.

Especially now in A17, let's say you got the lvl 2 mining & cardio perks, found a steel pick, shovel and a stack of beer (and considering beer lasts 30 seconds that doesn't help much)...how long in real time does it take to dig yourself down and establish a small base?

 

[Bubbahotetp]

I still don't see why there is so much hate for it. Digging down to bedrock and then digging out a base is a ♥♥♥♥ing chore. Think you deserve somewhere to craft in peace and quiet after that.
Especially now in A17, let's say you got the lvl 2 mining & cardio perks, found a steel pick, shovel and a stack of beer (and considering beer lasts 30 seconds that doesn't help much)...how long in real time does it take to dig yourself down and establish a small base?

+1 If someone thinks that digging to bedrock and digging a cave system with a stone axe is for suckers then they haven't done it. Those are the people who would give up after an hour. It takes real life days to do that!

 

[Dazrael21]

Yeah, I have always used underground bases. But not to hide from the horde - I love fighting the horde, and it's a good source of XP. I have never hidden from a BM horde underground, and I would usually emerge to fight a wandering horde when it hit my surface fortress even in end game. The only time I didn't come up to fight wanderers was if my base was so tough they were doomed anyway.

The reason I want an underground base is to keep my stuff safe, not me. So I can have a nicely set up combination of workshop, storage, and trophy room, painted and decorated. Back in A16 I used to build ramps up from underground with a drawbridge sealing off the top so I could ride my mini-bike in and out. Super cool. It would be even cooler if I was doing it in the new jeep or bike (not so much on the bicycle ).

Right now, all my stuff is out in the open along the edge of a road next to my fort. It looks crap and non-immersive, but the Z's leave it alone. I'm going to look into this 50+ safety thing. If it turns out to be true, I'll be happy.

 

[Feycat]

But you have to realize it is very narrow-minded even to ask such a thing for the survival mode, because there are a lot of people who choose that mode for what its name describes.

But why? Why is that narrow-minded? How does it hurt the game to allow people the option to skip the hordes if they want to?

It's not my cup of tea, I pretty much live for the hordes. But it doesn't affect me one single percent if people want to skip them. Why do I care?

Also, I don't like the fact I can't make underground rooms without zombies digging down. In our last A16 game, my friends and I had an above-ground fight cage to mess with zombies, but we had a huge underground complex with whole "houses" and an underground farm. I hate the fact that the zombies would dig right down through that now unless we put it at bedrock - and forget farming.

 

[Aldranon]

There should be an added option that allows for play type.

Digging zombies.

No digging zombies.

That should satisfy most people.

 

[wastelandstoic]

"There should be an added option that allows for play type.

Digging zombies.

No digging zombies.

That should satisfy most people."

Problem solved. And, the endless back and forth over how people want to play the game would end or at least be greatly reduced. Play how you want. Then (after tweaking) add the same on/off options for all the BS added for A17 and many problems solved.