Agreed, same issue with lucky looter and salvage... two skills that are really good to have. Looter I can understand being tied to perception, but not so much salvage.
I think we have different understandings what attributes, skills and perks are.
I actually tried A16.4 yesterday just for the lolz. Set everything to high, FHD resolution. Game played at 30 fps,looked nice and zombies were literally everywhere.
Nope, I understand it perfectly. What did I say that made you think otherwise?I think we have different understandings what attributes, skills and perks are.
Problem is:
The 5 basic attributes (PER, STR, FOR, AGI, INT) are currently tied to weapon types, not just tied to, they ONLY affect specific weapons, but imho they SHOULD be tied to generic attributes (reload speed, fire rate, movement speed, melee-/blockdamage or whatever), because they are prerequists of other perks which have absolutely nothing to do with the buffed weapons of the attribute.
The perks (deep cuts, dead eye, skull crusher, pummel pete, ...) are ALSO tied to specific weapons, but with that i'm fine, because these perks are not prerequisits of other stuff.
If maybe fortitude increases fire rate in generic and also contains the perks specializing to machine guns, the attribute fortitude and the perk machine gunner add up just perfect.
Currently the not-weapon-related perks like cardio, motherlode, t-rex, living of the land, lucky looter and so on rely on weapon specific attributes... that is what is wrong. You either go for the weapons the attributes support, or the skillpoints into the attribute are still needed but completely useless for what you want to skill to.
Because you talked about rearanging the perks among the 5 basic attributes.
Gotcha, what I meant was that I'm ok with perks being under attributes in general.....Because you talked about rearanging the perks among the 5 basic attributes.
Yes, of course might make sense in some cases, but that is not the initial problem i'm talking about.
Or maybe just because of language missunderstandings. English is not my native language so my understanding might not be perfect.
Yup. I loved that. The danger/challenge was not that the zombies were bullet sponges or could enrage (i.e the nonsense we have now in A18), it was that the moment you focused on one zombie to bring it down, another 6 had surrounded you from the sides and rear! Was amazing.
Not going to get into any more tone comments (we seem to have a talent for annoying each other) but I did want to comment on this part. While auto-killing bases should indeed be difficult to make and always a work in progress, Demolishers in their current state raise the issue where having a survivable base is too hard after a while. Not impossible, mind, but too difficult to really be practical for the vast majority of players, at least judging by the feedback I'm seeing (which might not be the full body of feedback since I don't read every thread).
Then I think I got it right; earlier in the thread; you WANT something; which you CAN get, but want it easily and the way you prefer it to be and are annoyed you can't have it all your way. If you want to play in a group and you got designated food guy then suck it up - machine gun and knuckles are the weapons you'll get BEST buffs to - but you can still use any other weapon you want. Don't like it? Designate another food person; or accept that your shotgun will be less-than-godly till you level up more. It'll still kill 'em just fine.
What if the cost for LOTL 4 was just a straight 14 skill points? I mean that you just had to save up 14 skill points and pay it and then you could have LOTL 4? That’s all the current system is doing. You have to pay a cost of 14 skill points to get it.
No, i don't want it for no effort. But i don't like the idea to "just" need 16 skillpoints to invest from which 10 have absolutely no effect for me. That is insane expensive!
That's just a useless turnaround and that is exactly what i complain about. And it is exactly the other way round. If i want to be a farmer my shotgun would be better, but that doesn't mean i WANT to use a shotgun, but if i do not i have to invest skillpoints which don't make ma any better.
And that is the missthinking. I do not only miss the MUCH MUCH BETTER effort, i HAVE to WASTE it, if i don't want to use especially that weapons TFP decided i HAVE to use, just because i want to do farming.
You got it all wrong. Is it that hard to understand? TFP is FORCING me into using specific weapons just because i want to be a farmer. Why? That would be EASILY resolved if the basic attributes would NOT give weapon specific buffs but generic.
Yes, that's the way it is right now. And you think LOTL is really worth 10 skillpoints wasted for shotgun buffs you don't use or you are forced to use shotguns to make it a reasonable effect?
Didn't check it ingame, you might be right with that, but that doesn't change the "problem" at all.
Yup, I don't love certain skills being tied to specific weapons.... mining to shotguns & clubs, farming to machine guns & fists, salvage to rifles & spears... etc.Didn't check it ingame, you might be right with that, but that doesn't change the "problem" at all.
It tried to explain it in a dozens times in multiple answers and different threads, but reagarding the answers, most people obviously still don't get it. Maybe i'm just expressing it wrong.
But from your answer i assume you at least got the point.
Maybe i'm "on the wood way" *lol* which is the germand translation for "i don't get it at all, maybe i'm completely wrong". But up to now, all answeres have been just "it is like it is" but not taking into account what i am saying, so i still think i'm right and don't purely accept "deal with it".
It's a request for further changes of course, i do not request a hotfix for A18.
It's very simple to understand...some just don't want to.Thank you. At least another one who understands the "problem" with the current system.
I understand what you're getting at, but I do think you are looking at it the wrong way.Thank you. At least another one who understands the "problem" with the current system.
The issue with performance in a18 is the microsplat map they introduced, for some reason in the snow/desert biomes, and around water like lakes in rwg, it literally wrecks fps. I go from solid 60 down to 30 if I look at certan parts of terrain, second I look away, it jumps back to 60 again, you especially notice it around mountaous regions in desert/snow biome and again around water everywhere. Its been proven to the devs by myself and multiple people that the microsplat map is the cause for all the performance issues in a18, but they are being stuborne and refuse to admit it has a problem or remove it in a19. There is a fan based patch that removes the microsplat map, and with it removed, it also removes all of my and everyone elses performance issues in a18.
Its another reason why stat locked perks like miner 69'er, motherload, living off the land etc, need to be moved to a general perk pool, that relys on total stat points earned across all stats to unlock or some other simmlar system, with once you having spent 10 points into stats across all 5 stats it unlocks all levels. You could have 5 str, 5 agi, and 3 in another stat and it'd be enough total points spent to unlock all 5 ranks of the perks in the general perk pool.
Not sure how you think that farming and using a rifle would be cause a balance problem but farming and using a machine gun doesnt...