PC The Offtopic, A17 thread.

"The Last Man on Earth" with Vincent Price is the closest to the book. The "I am Legend" movie completely misses the point of the book.
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The point of “I Am Legend” was Will Smith.

And it nailed that.

 
Thanks again for your thoughts. I think it is a mistake to ascribe recent drops in playing to poor PR. Most people who follow the game know that A17 is on the horizon and will require a wipe so any A16 playtime will be wasted in the sense that they will have to start over and lose their progress if they want to update...
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Keep in mind that school started for many players over the last 3 weeks. Also College/University kids are having WTF moments trying to figure out what they need for the fall semester starting next week.
So Aug/Sept are always bad months for games - when I worked in the game group at MS it was never a good time for releasing anything. ideal release times for major games was right before Turkey Day, or right before Christmas, or right before summer.
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Also this

 
both games have an overall upward trend although Empyrions is much slower despite their superior PR department...
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Sorry, but I laughed out loud here, Roland... although I agree with probably 99.99% of what you say and admire the panache with which you handle these forums (especially lately), this one falls into that .01%. :playful: You and the Pimps have much greater rapport and involvement with the 7DtD community than Eleon does. I'm not saying they're bad people- and I've fairly enjoyed the game up until a few recent design decisions on their part- but they are definitely not as involved with or willing to listen to their community as you guys are here. In fact, I've suggested on their forums a few times that they could stand to take some notes from TFP. They don't do videos, they rarely do screenshots, they don't talk to streamers, don't talk or tweet about plans or goals or anything else.

I'm looking forward to playing A17 when it's ready and glad that TFP has the integrity to not release it until it is. That and TFP's community involvement mean that I'll be a customer for your next game unless you somehow pick a genre that doesn't interest me. With Eleon, I've played enough to get my entertainment dollar's worth so their bad choices won't leave me bitter when I walk away- just disappointed- but I'll likely not be a repeat customer either.

 
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Sorry, but I laughed out loud here, Roland... although I agree with probably 99.99% of what you say and admire the panache with which you handle these forums (especially lately), this one falls into that .01%. :playful: You and the Pimps have much greater rapport and involvement with the 7DtD community than Eleon does. I'm not saying they're bad people- and I've fairly enjoyed the game up until a few recent design decisions on their part- but they are definitely not as involved with or willing to listen to their community as you guys are here. In fact, I've suggested on their forums a few times that they could stand to take some notes from TFP. They don't do videos, they rarely do screenshots, they don't talk to streamers, don't talk or tweet about plans or goals or anything else.
I'm looking forward to playing A17 when it's ready and glad that TFP has the integrity to not release it until it is. That and TFP's community involvement mean that I'll be a customer for your next game unless you somehow pick a genre that doesn't interest me. With Eleon, I've played enough to get my entertainment dollar's worth so their bad choices won't leave me bitter when I walk away- just disappointed- but I'll likely not be a repeat customer either.
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Well, I was answering the dude within the context of his own reality. HE believes that the devs of Empyrion are better at PR so I was answering him to his point. I really don't know the truth of it as I don't have time for any other forums but this one and a bit of love to the Steam forums. If your experience is different than his then maybe the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

I do know that Eleon does a much better job of posting updates and news to the Steam news feed on their store page than TFP does. There is no comparison that they have faster updates and maybe that is what translates to "better PR" for those who really want an update or two every month. I have suggested to Joel that when he does a video or a tweet to also add that to the news feed over on Steam and he is going to try doing that more.

People also have to realize that I'm equal parts sheriff/bouncer/and customer service rep on these forums. If someone is posting a rant that is likely to start a flame war and derail a thread I can't just thank them for their feedback. Some of these guys are burn the world people and aren't going to be placated. They just want to start something.

Now when someone emails the help desk or the press portal I am 100% customer service rep there. My approach is completely different.

 
Are you the sole recipient of help desk emails?
(Giggles)
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True story.

I guy asked to be on the Stream Team and he had zero followers on twitch and maybe 1 follower on Youtube. I politely told him he didn't qualify but if he could get up to 5000 followers by time A18 was ready to come out he could be part of that event. He was really mad and made some outrageous statements and I was absolutely POSITIVE it was either you or Toss having a go at me.

I was so convinced that it couldn't possibly be a real guy that when I checked his channel again and saw that he now had 2 followers I jokingly congratulated him on doubling his numbers so quickly.

We lost a customer....

 
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Lol. No, T woulda told me if it was him...

...but that story is priceless...

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...and it's one thing to rib you here... Doing it to your official capacity seems wrong.

Somehow. =)

 
Hmm, it looks like the trolls are out in force tonight.
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Lol so people whom dont share your views or opinions are trolls. Or people who see things that are wrong are trolls....... please learn the term troll properly before trying to be a big boy please. Maybe then you will use the term correctly

 
Lol so people whom dont share your views or opinions are trolls. Or people who see things that are wrong are trolls....... please learn the term troll properly before trying to be a big boy please. Maybe then you will use the term correctly
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He knew the concept well enough to trigger you, stall... ;)

Btw, WHY is it 200 slots or uninstall? Isn’t even 50 good enough? How do you even process 200 items all in your inventory?

 
The fact they didn't mention you yet you assumed they were talking about you says it all dude.
Not to mention literally everything you said was embarrassingly wrong so....
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Here Eighny_Lupin has volunteered to demonstrate a proper troll:

Step 1: Debase the person with a slander of some type (be creative!).

Step 2: Add a broad generalization that deliberately takes what your target said, out of context.

Step 3: Success!

Once again, thank you Eighmy_Lupin for taking the time and effort to demonstrate something that is normally distasteful to you.

 
He knew the concept well enough to trigger you, stall... ;)
Btw, WHY is it 200 slots or uninstall? Isn’t even 50 good enough? How do you even process 200 items all in your inventory?
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Lol if I am a troll then so be it haha. Ty for the compliment......

And cause I hate having to go back to base to drop stuff off every 5 seconds. And I love to loot just dont like multiple trips back to base when I am 5 meters from my door.

Also tfp killed my mega city mod. No way am I going down without a fight for my backpack mod lol.. but seriously I will cease to play if I cant mod my 200 slot backpack that bit is true l. As stupid and backwards and as lazy as removing loot is, I can live with it I guess. But not my 200 slot backpack

 
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The fact they didn't mention you yet you assumed they were talking about you says it all dude.
Not to mention literally everything you said was embarrassingly wrong so....
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Fact 1. I did not even mention he was talking to me.

Fact 3. I have not seen any trolls on here for a few pages.

Fact 4. You assumed my gender ..... ok ok I am a dude lol just thought I throw in how stupid this world is coming to now a days lol.

Fact 5. You didnt even notice I skipped fact 2

 
Fact 1. I did not even mention he was talking to me.
Fact 3. I have not seen any trolls on here for a few pages.

Fact 4. You assumed my gender ..... ok ok I am a dude lol just thought I throw in how stupid this world is coming to now a days lol.

Fact 5. You didnt even notice I skipped fact 2
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And the proper rebuttal to a troll

Step 1: Just the facts. Keep thing on subject.

Step 2: Add a little humor, this is actually important as most trolling is caused by people who are currently unhappy about something.

And that is it for today, tomorrow we will go over Spider Zombie Meme's and how they relate to global economic stability.

 
He knew the concept well enough to trigger you, stall... ;)
Btw, WHY is it 200 slots or uninstall? Isn’t even 50 good enough? How do you even process 200 items all in your inventory?
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Instead of icons, can we just have a Comic Sans tiny text list of everything in our inventory? I think we can have a 200 item inventory that way.

 
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