PC The Big Base Builds of A17
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Poojam
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I haven't suffered through the leveling far enough long to unlock the perks to make stamina and harvesting damage adequate to gather sufficient materials to build a big base to find out it was a waste of time since they'll just point-focus one weak spot and tunnel in. Sorry for the run on sentence, but I felt it better illustrated my point and lack of interest.
Ranzera
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I have, though I did it online with some folks that liked to party up for blood moon. That feels like cheating the system, but I'll tell you this.. It STILL feels like a slog to get there. I don't know how anyone does it offline. If I was playing offline, I would have already ditched A17.
xXBadDreamXx
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itll be allright poojam...just ride it out...come play a game with me in the meantime
Kaiote
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What a useless post.
In my default settings game I am on day 27 and have been living and fighting BM from the large junkyard POI upgraded with primarily scrap iron, barbwire and iron bars. I haven't used a pickaxe so far this playthrough. Easily able to build up 1000s of Iron to build with using just Salvage Ops and a good wrench. 500 stacks of pipes fuel the forge.
OzHawkeye
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I'm not sure whether you'll consider it a positive or not, but it is quite easily possible to build a base in A17 that is very easily defended. Now, to be sure, that's "cheesing" (exploiting? taking advantage?) of current Zombie AI, but defendable bases exist in A17.
xXBadDreamXx
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alot of us are upset and pretty salty about the changes , me included , everyone knows why...no sense rubbing salt into wounds by calling people out for being negative. lets all just try to support each other and ride this out. MadMole is a stand up dude and the fun pimps in general imo are all pretty fkn patient with our salty arses right now even tho im sure theyd love to tell us off now and then...and wed deserve it, they just keep chugging along and trying to give us bro hugs and calm us down till things get sorted. itll all be fine. lets just think of the fun times well be having new years eve with friends and family =)
Poojam
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I'm sure there is. But I've read that it means tricking the zombie AI into stalling on a ramp or funneling through a maze of traps. Which is about as cheesy as it gets. One guy had a video where he just stood on a stack of wooden frames next to his mouse trap.
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My big bases in A16 were typically over 100,000 reinforced concrete blocks, bedrock to skybox with ramparts, double moats, ringed & double claimed perimeter and successive drawbridge entrances. I wasn't defending against zombies.
Kattla
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Not so very large yet.
Bottom floor is meatgrinder and courtyard , in reinforced concrete.
Second floor is for repairing the meatgrinder during horde, in cobblestone.
Third floor is living quarters and perimeter catwalks, in wood and flagstone.
Meatgrinder (5 bladetraps) are triggered by motion sensor and triggerplates,
to save power and reduce noise. Also placed the generator away from the
living quarters to reduce it's noise.
It's still a bit too small for my taste, but it does a very good job dealing with the hordes.
Maybe i keep it as a horde base, and build a larger one somewhere else.
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Royal Deluxe
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Central tower (9x9) stand on a massive concrete foundation until bedrock
Single player, so PVE,
default settings
99,9% legit^^
Single player, so PVE,
default settings
99,9% legit^^
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LuckyStar
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I intend to to a large one to prove that you can still build big in A17.
Almost have the kinks worked out of my defense system.
I'm not going to cheese the AI, I don't think it's needed.
What I can say for sure is that if I'm going to build legit, I have to accept that it's going to take at least 50% longer.
So what used to be a 60 day build is now going to take 90.
That's fine by me!
Almost have the kinks worked out of my defense system.
I'm not going to cheese the AI, I don't think it's needed.
What I can say for sure is that if I'm going to build legit, I have to accept that it's going to take at least 50% longer.
So what used to be a 60 day build is now going to take 90.
That's fine by me!
Kaiote
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Nope, I am a completely new player, A17 in. Which is why I have a hard time understanding all the salt. I'm a noob and have had no problem gaining what I consider ridiculous amounts of building material within first couple weeks. At least 200-300 reinforced concrete blocks, 200 Iron Bars and 18k scrap iron in the bank...... without using a pick. I'm sure a veteran dedicating time to gather could far outdo that on higher difficulty, if they can get past the salt....U never played pvp right ? well u missed alot of fun there. If some one says hes not building against zombies hes probably building against humans
Question is for what? You can't defend against other players now, with 1 claim block limit. Zeds never been a real challenge and never will. No matter how big you build in current conditions, you would have to waste alot of time on repairs/resupply after every bloodmoon. What is the point in building a base that doesnt help you survive, but only makes surviving grindier?
Royal Deluxe
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The problem is that as soon as you are on a server with at least allowed PVP you need to build different.
Means you start your building underground on bedrock and have allready a more or less PVP safe base when you break through the surface.
Since zombies dig thats impossible. At least i have no idea how i could do that.
Imagine they dig through the frames that hold the soil layer above.
I needed 6 Builds until this si was stable. If a zombie dig there down 100+ Hours of work are gone
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That was not his argument. His argument was that there is no point. You only waste time. Basically, builders have received many heavy nerfs in this version. Making it almost unplayable for them. You can build a base, yes. But instead of being a heavy fortified fortress, it would be a paper castle, that you would have to be watching over 24/7.
You can still build big bases in A17, you just have to dedicate a section of it to defense only.
My current defense area is essentially a long corridor with barbed wire on the lower section of both walls. I use mostly range as stamina drain is too severe for straight melee. I'll switch to melee if/when stamina drain ceases to be an issue.