Console Telltale Update

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Read the first post of this thread. In short: The publisher doing the console port went bankrupt, the rights to the port are auctioned of in a few months. TFP wants to aquire the port and continue the work but realistically this will take months to get any results.


I'm pretty sure what would have happened if Telltale had not bought the rights to port it: Then there would be no console version of 7d2d, at least not now.

TFP has no experience with console, they would have thought about a console version only after release of the PC version. If they had tried to hire IG themselves they would have had to do all the tasks a publisher has to do and front the money for the porting. This is not something you suddenly start doing as a developer in the middle of your early alpha development. If it wasn't your plan from the beginning you would think about that again when you are finished with the game and have some free time.

You would have got 7d2d around end of 2020 at the earliest, if at all. TFP might simply have shied away from console porting because they would have thought it too difficult to port the release version to the very limiting hardware of the console. TFP has also postponed a few features for after release, This might also divert them from even thinking about a console port later.

Lots of console games never surface on PC, lots of PC games never surface on console. Chances are good you should even say thank you to Telltale because they were the driving force behind the console port even if they couldn't finish it. And now TFP seems to feel obligated to finish what was started which they surely would not feel if there never had been a console port.
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At this point they are trying to save face. They had nothing to do with the port of the game they sold the rights and walked away. Even at that they sold the rights to an unfinished game and at the time it was already behind PC development. TFP has done nothing to help consol players up to this point. They have not helped with the port, they have not helped with the updates etc. Which is weird considering their branding is all over the consol version of the game and you would assume with some foresight they would want to protect their image. Yes this game is $20-$30 but on the other hand so is the forest which is infinitely smoother, so is subnautica which looks loads better. I personally think when this was ported there should have been a disclaimer that the port was/is an unfinished version of the game. If this was marketed as a beta then nobody could really complain

 
At this point they are trying to save face. They had nothing to do with the port of the game they sold the rights and walked away. Even at that they sold the rights to an unfinished game and at the time it was already behind PC development. TFP has done nothing to help consol players up to this point. They have not helped with the port, they have not helped with the updates etc. Which is weird considering their branding is all over the consol version of the game and you would assume with some foresight they would want to protect their image. Yes this game is $20-$30 but on the other hand so is the forest which is infinitely smoother, so is subnautica which looks loads better. I personally think when this was ported there should have been a disclaimer that the port was/is an unfinished version of the game. If this was marketed as a beta then nobody could really complain
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It should have been even marketed as an alpha or better as an early access game, I agree with you on this one. But I don't know if Sony would have allowed it on the console with such a label.

They outsourced console development completely. I don't see that as a problem. Did Iron Galaxy developers say that questions about the code were not answered by TFP? If yes, that would be damaging in itself and also different to what TFP is claiming. Or did IG developers say that they weren't introduced to the code in the beginning of the development? That also would be damaging info about TFP just "walking away" immediately after signing the contract.

If no to both, then what is the problem? These are the two things I would expect and want from a company who's code I had to port to a platform only I know.

About the console version being behind PC development: TFP seems to have not made any running intermediate versions of the game between alphas, i.e. the code was completely broken between alphas while they implemented new features (this is info I heard last year from one of the developers themselves).

So IG could not really use bleeding edge code from TFP and port it (if they want to test their stuff on console and not blindly porting without knowing where the actual problems lie), They had to use the then current alpha and start from there, even if that alpha was already out for a few months.

 
... Did Iron Galaxy developers say that questions about the code were not answered by TFP? If yes, that would be damaging in itself and also different to what TFP is claiming. Or did IG developers say that they weren't introduced to the code in the beginning of the development? That also would be damaging info about TFP just "walking away" immediately after signing the contract.
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The answer to both is a definite no. There's even a video explaining how it all works, and multiple comments from both TFP and Claire attesting to the fact that TFP and IG openly discussed code, and how things worked. To the point that a couple of PC fixes actually hit the console first.

 
There sure is a bunch of naysayers and negativity popping up in this thread. People need to cool their jets and be a little patient. At least until after the Telltale asset auction.

 
There sure is a bunch of naysayers and negativity popping up in this thread. People need to cool their jets and be a little patient. At least until after the Telltale asset auction.
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Been saying that. Lots of people here just aren’t used to not getting their way or something. We are all frustrated but coming on to here to seems to be the what’s keeping this thread alive. That and the hope that something will happen soon. I’m sure there will another thread soon after we get more news.

 
Been saying that. Lots of people here just aren’t used to not getting their way or something. We are all frustrated but coming on to here to seems to be the what’s keeping this thread alive. That and the hope that something will happen soon. I’m sure there will another thread soon after we get more news.
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People are unhappy over the lack of information and the fact the promised update (that was well over a year of build up) didnt happen. You can't really blame consol players for being upset, for a year they were told things are gonna happen with no real idea of what that even meant. Maybe it was items, maybe it was paint, maybe it was an engine update who knows. After all that time we were told nothing more than well this company when out of business so the update is canceled oh and by the way you may never see an update in the future. Again, if this was marketed as a beta, early access etc. then people couldnt complain but it was sold as a complete game and since day 1 that simply wasnt true.

To be honest even if TFP said next month they were taking it over consol players would likely have many more months to wait for anything. Realistically were talking late 2019- early 2020 (if not longer) for updates that PC has had since 2017. It's more than a bit maddening and unacceptable

 
Well i dont mind the wait and all but this limbo shark is getting old. I have an online game my brother n I have been playing pong fine until an hour ago. It keeps disconnecting me as soon as or right after the world loads and of course good plaguestation blames my internet and says all their garbage is up and running green. I have been in a party talking online with my brother while it blames my internet. This game is breaking more and more every damn day and it is pure rainbows when you can't even play the damn thing the way it was and is advertised that you can and should be able to. I know it isn't supposedly plaguestation and sure isn't my or my brothers internet as he lives next door so that leaves this games files as the culprit and if i can't play what i paid for that they advertised as a finished damned product is a load of bubblegum someone needs to eat.

 
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Dear FunPimps. Unfortunately I have to inform you that today I have sent a request for refund of the purchase price to the Playstation Support. The reason is the lack of updates for console players.

 
Nbsbeakers, you didn't pay TFP for the game. You need to ask Telltale Games for your refund. Since they applied for bankruptcy, I doubt you will get your refund. I feel your anger, but it is pointed in the wrong direction.

 
Nbsbeakers, you didn't pay TFP for the game. You need to ask Telltale Games for your refund. Since they applied for bankruptcy, I doubt you will get your refund. I feel your anger, but it is pointed in the wrong direction.
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Plus there's the whole 14-day 2 hours played rule on refunds.

 
I don't want to sound like a jerk but why not just make a new game, seriously its been what a year. At somee point i wont want an update ill have moved on to another game

 
I don't want to sound like a jerk but why not just make a new game, seriously its been what a year. At somee point i wont want an update ill have moved on to another game
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To do that TFP would have to admit that this game is a failure and I doubt they are capable of admitting that. That being said, the biggest problem to plague the console version has apparently raised its ugly head on PC. I'm beginning to see reports of terrain rewrites. Of course everyone knows that terrain rewrites are strictly a problem for xbox because Microsoft screwed things, right!

 
To do that TFP would have to admit that this game is a failure and I doubt they are capable of admitting that. That being said, the biggest problem to plague the console version has apparently raised its ugly head on PC. I'm beginning to see reports of terrain rewrites. Of course everyone knows that terrain rewrites are strictly a problem for xbox because Microsoft screwed things, right!
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Of course didnt you know all the issues that have hit consol players since day 1 are totally due to the fact that all consols suck. They just cant handle a game this demanding what with all the ♥♥♥♥ty textures, low quality animation and cookie cutout locations.

 
To do that TFP would have to admit that this game is a failure and I doubt they are capable of admitting that. That being said, the biggest problem to plague the console version has apparently raised its ugly head on PC. I'm beginning to see reports of terrain rewrites. Of course everyone knows that terrain rewrites are strictly a problem for xbox because Microsoft screwed things, right!
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More realistically...

In order to do that, TFP would have to be finished making 7DTD. They aren't yet.

Remember that Telltale and Iron Galaxy made the console port, not TFP.

 
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In order to do that, TFP would have to be finished making 7DTD. They aren't yet.

Remember that Telltale and Iron Galaxy made the console port, not TFP.
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Are you still using that excuse! Seriously, one minute console is complete, the next its not! One minute TFP is supplying updates to Telltale, the next they had nothing to do with console.

The fact is, the biggest problems with console have been rearing their ugly head in PC, yet some still cling to the line that somehow, TFP is not responsible for the console problems. When will you, and TFP accept the fact that some of their decisions were flawed?

 
Are you still using that excuse! Seriously, one minute console is complete, the next its not! One minute TFP is supplying updates to Telltale, the next they had nothing to do with console. ...
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I was specifically speaking of the PC version. That's the one TFP is working on. They aren't going to start working on another game until the one they finish is done. I doubt that they will port the next game to console before it's completely finished, given the shenanigans with TellTale.

 
Are you still using that excuse! Seriously, one minute console is complete, the next its not! One minute TFP is supplying updates to Telltale, the next they had nothing to do with console.
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This is a prime example of how to make dishonest arguments. Since "have nothing to do with console" is quite unspecific and not the exact opposite of "supplying update" you are producing a strawman. Not even you could say you had nothing to do with the console version since you seem to have played it.

Please cite SylenThunders exact words with links to the posts where he supposedly contradicts himself.

 
Which will be out first, the console update we were promised more then a year ago or dead island 2. Mmmmmmm. I would not take that bet either way.

 
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