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Please stop with the "Finished Product" quote, no matter how many times you say it, it just isn't true. Finished product would mean the game works as intended, and that has never been true. The constant crashes, md5 errors, inability to connect errors, and on and on are prima facia proof this game was not finished on console. Also, no matter how you say it, you cannot market a product as finished based on an unfinished model, the logic just doesn't hold.
The game may have been "Sold as finished" but definitely was not finished. Telltale may be the prime player in the mishandling of the console game but Iron Galaxy and yes, TFP hold some liability as well. Own up to your screw up and move on.
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Pimps never said it was finished. Post a link to prove otherwise.

This entire thread should just be deleted. Because half the people posting are clueless and don’t understand business arrangements, law, or PRERELEASE GAMES

 
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Yeah, it was sold as a finished product on xbox, i remember it clearly and boy was it a mess, in runs fine now though and i still return to it regularly because there's nothing else like it on console.

 
The CONSOLE version was sold as a finished product. You don't know what you're talking about.
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"Hi everyone,

We wanted to give you an update on how things are progressing with the upgrade to Unity 2017. We are still on track and currently working on ensuring the menus are behaving as they should with the new upgrade. After that we'll be moving onto getting the core single player game working on the new engine having already gotten a first bootable build with functional front-end UI.

We're eager to tackle the more persistent bugs in the game once the upgrade is complete, and excited to start to add some of the new features from A15 and A16 including new map locations for you to explore.

Thank you all once again for your continuing patience and support. We'll be in touch again soon with more details on the progress of the upgrade and Patch 14.

Until then, happy surviving!

The 7DTD Console Team"

This post is from TTG. Doesn't sound like it was a "finished product". If you could post your link where it says it was a finished product then I stand corrected. IMHO, they were not finished and they appeared to be still working on it, until things went sideways.

 
Pimps never said it was finished. Post a link to prove otherwise.
This entire thread should just be deleted. Because half the people posting are clueless and don’t understand business arrangements, law, or PRERELEASE GAMES
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While your argument may hold water on the PC side which is still in Alpha, the console side has always been considered a finished product based on A14. Now that does not mean it hasn't been upgraded to more recent alphas as far as content is concerned, nor has it been treated as finished as they continued to work out the bugs. The problem is, the work on the bugs came to a crawl as everyone applauded the added content. It's been a bit of flash and sleight of hand as they upgrade some stuff and shelf that which they can't handle. Then they closed up, leaving us in the mess we are in now.

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This post is referring to the update they were working on.

 
Ask a moderater. That's all you have to do. I've been told many times very condescendingly that the console version was sold as a finished product. Sylen? Where you at on this one?

 
Ask a moderater. That's all you have to do. I've been told many times very condescendingly that the console version was sold as a finished product. Sylen? Where you at on this one?
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a quote from TFP for this thread.

"Like you, we are incredibly frustrated by what has happened. We are pursuing all options to regain our rights, including legal remedies. Despite the damage that Telltale’s actions have inflicted upon our company and upon our console community, we wanted to let you know that The Fun Pimps are supremely committed to our fans and will continue to support 7 Days to Die game on the PC, as well as continuing efforts to aid console players in the future."

Not sure why they would post this if this game was a finished product. I get polishing up a game by fixing bugs at the end. But if you are talking about adding new (for the console) content then I am going to say it isn't finished. If the game was finished then I don't see why TFP would spend any time/money getting their "rights" back. Let alone make the statment of efforts to aid console players in the future.

 
Lol. I read the forums every day man. I've read this and almost every post for the last two years. You still don't know what you're talking about. Link some more old threads... like I said, ask Sylen if it was sold as a finished product. They promised to keep updating, doesn't mean it was sold as a finished product on CONSOLE. I'm done talking about this. You obviously don't read the forums every day or you would know that. It's common knowledge.

 
Lol. I read the forums every day man. I've read this and almost every post for the last two years. You still don't know what you're talking about. Link some more old threads... like I said, ask Sylen if it was sold as a finished product. They promised to keep updating, doesn't mean it was sold as a finished product on CONSOLE. I'm done talking about this. You obviously don't read the forums every day or you would know that. It's common knowledge.
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It's literally in a Sticky thread even!


Why is this sold as a finished product?

TFP is still developing the PC game, but Telltale/IG took a14.7 and worked on porting it to the consoles. It's sold as a finished product of the a14.7 version of the game. What you have, is what was in the PC version at that time. New PC content may or may not be added to the Console version.

"Madmole created a video explaining the PC to console porting process and what to expect going forward in regards to current and future PC features making it over to console." ~Roland

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I think what freestyle is trying to say is, regardless of the constant statements of the console being sold as a finished game, it was not a finished game and has been treated as such. A finished game is just that, finished! IF this product had ben sold and left as released with only updates being bug fixes, you might get away with the "Finished Game" statement. I say might because although a finished game may have some minor bugs, this game has major flaws that still exist that loudly declare "NOT FINISHED". Add to that the game has received way too many updates to be considered finished, (not to mention that the most recent update that never happened included a change to a Unity engine that didn't exist when the game was released, so once again..."Not Finished."

I can stand on the street corner shouting as loud as I can that the world is flat, but that doesn't make it true! Now, don't misunderstand what I'm saying. The console is not deserving of any future updates except those required to make it a finished game. Unfortunately, those updates, (Fixing the multiplayer, especially on PS4, and fixing the MD5, especially on XBox1) will probably never happen.

Of course, if you live in an alternate universe where "Finished Product" has some other meaning, your opinion may differ, but in this universe, finished means finished. A bowl of batter is not a finished cake, and a frame, handlebars, tires, motor and a battery is not a finished mini bike.

 
Since a console being connected to the internet has been a standard, there really is hardly any such thing as a "finished game" in the way you're trying to make it. I linked an article on this a while ago. Will have to find it again.

 
True. Any game now days can at any time put out an update over the internet and change the game completely. Look at cod 4 remastered. I thought it was a good remaster of thee original game until a few months later, they decided to make it pay to win by adding in a bunch of new guns that were never in the game. They were now the fastest guns in the game which you could only purchase through micro transactions. Ruined it for me. I no longer play any cod games, they ruined my favorite.

 
You are lucky I’m not a forum mod because I would ban you for saying they ever marketed a final product, you can’t even share a like that proves it. So you welcome to my ignore list.

 
Anyone that blames pimps for what telltale did is exactly uneducated and simple. But please prove me wrong. I have yet to see a single link that shows exactly where pimps marketed anything other than a prerelease game. For the love of Xbox show me that link ;)

 
Anyone that blames pimps for what telltale did is exactly uneducated and simple. But please prove me wrong. I have yet to see a single link that shows exactly where pimps marketed anything other than a prerelease game. For the love of Xbox show me that link ;)
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I do in fact partly blame the pimps as the console port was called complete. Claire in this same forums told us multiple times that what was released in console was considered completed material. Of course I feel like this was just an excuse for not releasing versions that matched those released on PC, It would of been fine had they explained to us that IG was not porting everything in order. I honestly read that statement for the first time as I was on my screen staring at a dog moving in 360 circles like if it was trying to chase its own tail.

Now I'm honestly not holding hope for this game port. I do feel like this console port is dead with the recent outcome of Telltale. If I can suggest something: at least give those of us that can provide proof of purchase a discount code for the PC version. Also as a sidenote, not all of us console users have steam accounts. So forcing us to register with our steam accounts seems a bit unfair.

BTW I noticed a lot more negative comments that are now gone through this page. Are they removing anything that expresses negative concerns about the game? Most of them were not using foul language or anything like that from what I remember.

 
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Roland said:

07-04-2016

Quote Originally Posted by HarriTay View Post

"will the console version be getting A15 when it releases?

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Hello I've been playing 7days on the ps4 and been having fun with it. I've watched other people play this game on pc for years and always wanted to play it. All these new updates and additions to the game on pc, will the consoles also get those?? Thanks for any info you can provide"

"Hopefully the console version will get A15 features eventually. Telltale has not revealed what future updates will be coming to the console version. It definitely won't come out at the same time or even shortly afterward. If the console version continues to follow the PC development it will lag behind."

From a previous post. Why not say the console is finished except for some bug updates. If TTG didn't mention anything back in 2016 about it being finished then I not sure why this post was made about following the PC development.

Finished not finished doesn't mean much to me. What means something is being told an update is in the process then told it isn't going to happen, but might happen. I get the legal part, but right now I don't even know what the truth is anymore.

I get it that some might flame who ever but I am a big boy and just want to know what is or what isn't going to happen. That's all I am asking.

 
It's finished but they WERE going to continue to support it. Meaning we were going to continue to get features ported from the pc version. But now that's all up in thee air now. Nobody knows what's happening except the pimps, ttg, and the courts as of now.

 
I do in fact partly blame the pimps as the console port was called complete. Claire in this same forums told us multiple times that what was released in console was considered completed material.
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You do realize that Claire was a Telltale employee (so anything she said came from Telltale, not pimps) and their use of this forum was probably just a rental?

It's finished but they WERE going to continue to support it. Meaning we were going to continue to get features ported from the pc version. But now that's all up in thee air now. Nobody knows what's happening except the pimps, ttg, and the courts as of now.
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IMO drop the "except ..." and you are absolutely correct. The pimps might know how much they want to bid in the auction and they probably have plans what they will do in case they get the rights, but neither pimps nor ttg nor the courts know at this time who will eventually get the rights. And that above all decides the fate of the console port.

And I don't think it is much use asking TFP at this time what their plans are. They will not say anything that could be construed as a promise to the console faction until they can be sure they really have the rights. And if they have a shred of intelligence they will not say anything that could give other parties who might bid on the rights any hints about the exact value the console rights have for them.

 
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