PC Starfield is making 7D2D look great

Ramethzer0 said:
Can confirm.  I'm loosing valuable sleep time over this gem.
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How is the story and gameplay?  I am sure I'll love the game and am just waiting for a sale before I pick it up, but it would be nice to have some feedback on how the game is.

 
I'm playing 2 different campaigns, (one solo, and one with my lady) and I am learning that this game is going to have infinite replay value.   I have decades of GM experience in the complexities of tabletop and LARP, and I'm totally blown away.  I'd also say that if you have ever tried your hand at (their original title) Divinity: Original Sin, you'd not be so hesitant for BG3.  The game play is so nuanced I find it wonderfully frustrating.  The developers absolutely know their market, and they are continuing their efforts to patch the game to pull the stops out of a large chunk of outcomes that didn't get the initial QA pass.  The action also starts the moment you spawn into the story.  Despite the removal of the alignment system in D&D, you can approach the story from a wide variety of philosophical angles, and you will still be met at every step with choices and consequences.

Larian Studios has gone so hard into details within the plot, that it blows away anything from Bethesda, Bioware, and Ubisoft away without ever looking back.  There is so much to do in Act 1, that its given me severe FOMO and I've suffered from choice paralysis.   You can't go 10 feet without tripping into or missing something.   There's secret treasures hidden in spaces you'd never think to look.  The story can go so deep, and your choices can get so strange and/or complex and can have multiple outcomes.  The adult content can range from tasteful to outright fringe, so it's a hard sell for me to recommend it for children.   I'd also be remiss if I didn't warn folks that no matter what character you make, you're going to be stuck with a typical british accent.

As a side note, if you've played the first two Baldur's Gate titles, this one is a very respectful spiritual successor.



 
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Ramethzer0 said:
I'd also say that if you have ever tried your hand at (their original title) Divinity: Original Sin, you'd not be so hesitant for BG3.
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As someone who backed Original Sin and Original Sin 2, I have to say the only Larian game I've ever actually enjoyed was the first 2 acts of Dragon Commander (a game that failed miserably.)  Granted, the only other Larian game I've played besides those 3 is Divinity 2 Ego Draconis, which had the floatiest controls I've ever encountered.

I also hate 5E D&D (more than I hate 2E, which is surprising to me, becuase I used to reserve the term "loathe" to describe my feelings towards 2E D&D), so that's a big part of why I'm unlikely to ever buy BG3, and if I ever do, it'll be for < $10 including whatever DLC it may end up getting.

 
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Vaeliorin said:
As someone who backed Original Sin and Original Sin 2, I have to say the only Larian game I've ever actually enjoyed was the first 2 acts of Dragon Commander (a game that failed miserably.)  Granted, the only other Larian game I've played besides those 3 is Divinity 2 Ego Draconis, which had the floatiest controls I've ever encountered.

I also hate 5E D&D (more than I hate 2E, which is surprising to me, becuase I used to reserve the term "loathe" to describe my feelings towards 2E D&D), so that's a big part of why I'm unlikely to ever buy BG3, and if I ever do, it'll be for < $10 including whatever DLC it may end up getting.
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I dont expected everyone to like it.  However, the numbers of concurrent daily players puts it into the stratosphere.   I'm not a huge fan of D&D (o even battlemaps) either, but I can't deny how well Larian has managed BG3 better than WotC has done with its tabletop version.

Fanatical_Meat said:
This thread is exactly why I want work on 7D2D to end soon then:

a) Get solid info as to what the new games the pimps are working on

b) Get an early access going
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I too am excited to see if the Pimps have more for us.  Hopefully, these new titles will have far less development time spent on polishing after all this time and experience spent on 7 days. 

 
Adam the Waster said:
The only real reason we get so much Content in updates it's cuz it's still alpha.  I'm afraid when gold comes.  Nothing new will be added aside from QQL stuff 
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Not true.  There are definitely post gold plans to add more content.  From a level design aspect, we have brainstormed several interesting possible packs already.

 
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I'm really disappointed with Starfield. It's boring. Simple as.

This has no doubt been exacerbated by how good Baldur's Gate 3 was. Starfield looks epic in scale, but is as shallow as it comes.

People keep saying that Starfield and BG3 are different games, but they're both RPGs. I don't know. I wish I could refund the game but I've already spent well over 30hrs, but I haven't played the game since it was fully released (that 30hrs was accumulated from the premium version). 

The engine is tired, the NPCs are tired, the interaction is tired, the maps are rubbish (I had to use google search to see where the vendors were such is how bad the maps are in that game), you walk around for miles on end with nothing to do.

 
As someone who has played every Elder Scrolls game from Arena on, I can say I was super excited to see Starfield until I realized space wasn't space at all, you can't "fly" to planets and "land." The flying/space gameplay  was a massive let down. They took the very BEST part of space games and nerfed the hell out of the exploration aspects. hard pass until it's $20 on Steam.

 
warmer said:
As someone who has played every Elder Scrolls game from Arena on, I can say I was super excited to see Starfield until I realized space wasn't space at all, you can't "fly" to planets and "land." The flying/space gameplay  was a massive let down. They took the very BEST part of space games and nerfed the hell out of the exploration aspects. hard pass until it's $20 on Steam.
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Oh wait @%$#, really? Is it all just fast travel?

 
FramFramson said:
Oh wait @%$#, really? Is it all just fast travel?
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No there's not even that. You have to land where the markers tell you and even then they can place you miles away from that marker after you've clicked on it. It's illogical.

That's why there's all the talk about there being no transport being in the game because it would compound the problem even further; the problem being that there's nothing to do in between.

 
From a performance stand point Starfield is shocking. I have an all AMD system with an AMD 7900X with AMD 7900XT, 32gbs of RAM and I can only hit around 90fps at 1080P Ultra settings. That's pathetic. 
 



 
Just need to say that I don't have anywhere near the top AMD components either. Mine are not top tier. Top tier would 7950X3D CPU and 7900XTX GPU which are miles better than my set up, but I expected more from my setup regardless  :)

 
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