Shotgun Messiah Factory and Shamway Factory

They're rare, but I do think they're still in. They need a large area in a suitable district, which makes them rare to spawn in an RWG (there are people who can describe that in detail, I'm just not one of them :P ).
 
theFlu said:
They're rare, but I do think they're still in. They need a large area in a suitable district, which makes them rare to spawn in an RWG (there are people who can describe that in detail, I'm just not one of them :P ).
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A bit too rare, imo. I've seen the Shamway Factory ONCE in RWG in the last couple of years. The Shotgun Messiah factory has shown up about 10% of the time in RWG for me.
 
Due to the RWG changes where forest, for example, cannot spawn a proper city you will be far less likely to spot them until you get into the wasteland, desert or snow biome.
 
Kyoji said:
Due to the RWG changes where forest, for example, cannot spawn a proper city you will be far less likely to spot them until you get into the wasteland, desert or snow biome.
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I looked in the prefabs.xml file for my last few playthroughs and they are not in there, so they are not even spawning in. I usually play a 5k map (solo), so maybe I need to play a bigger map for them to spawn in?
 
zombiehunter said:
I looked in the prefabs.xml file for my last few playthroughs and they are not in there, so they are not even spawning in. I usually play a 5k map (solo), so maybe I need to play a bigger map for them to spawn in?
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Yeah, 5k with RWG is going to limit the POI you can find by a lot, especially larger POI. Certain POI just have very limited options for placement, making them hard to find. Without having a lot of towns where those places can occur, you have a good chance not to find the POI on any given map, so having a larger map will help. But that doesn't mean it is impossible to get them on a 5k map. You just might have to try a lot of seeds.

For reference, the two large factories (factory_02 and factory_03 IIRC) can only appear on the same 100x100 spot only on an industrial cap tile, and those tiles are relatively rare. And there are other POI that can appear in that same spot as well, so it makes anything that only appears on that spot very rare. I think Laz Man had said (or maybe it was faatal) that they are looking at ways to help with that. In the meantime, if you can find or make a custom tile that has a 100x100 spot in industrial that is not a cap tile, you can use that and you will be much more likely to get those POI to appear.
 
One additional thing to consider is that: as more Tier 5 POIs have been added, there is more variety in any given RWG, hence less chance to see those two specific POIs, notwithstanding the spawning rules already reviewed. Larger and flatter maps may offer a way to see them more often.
 
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