Red Mesa Collapse

Riamus

Riamus

Hunter
Version
2.5 b27
Platform
Windows
I've been seeing multiple collapsing POI when starting quests in 2.5 that I hadn't seen in previous versions. This one happened when I started it tonight. I watched it slowly collapsing, and the collapse caused the person playing the game with me (I hosted) to get disconnected. Below are two screenshots. I had to shrink the second because the forum didn't like the size, but it's still clear enough. The pictures show the final result after the collapse finished. The are focused on the loot room building.

How it happened:
I started the quest and then opened the door to the guard house next to the quest flag to kill the cop. I managed to miss some hits and the cop was green and managed to blow up on me just about where the flag was. It was immediately after that when I saw the POI collapsing. It is *possible* that the collapse started when the cop exploded, but I don't think it is likely. It was already collapsed quite a bit when I turned after the cop exploded, so I am pretty sure it started immediately upon quest reset.

I've attached the log. It was attached shortly after the collapse finished, so the collapse happened right near the bottom of the log, making it easy to see if anything stands out. There are some mods installed, but I think it's unlikely those are related. The problem is that you can't really reproduce this in any reliable way, so I can't just remove mods to test. I'd have to remove them and play for hours until *maybe* I find a POI that collapses. Not seeing a collapsed POI wouldn't prove it's related to a mod as I've only seen maybe 4 or 5 of these since 2.5 went stable and have done a LOT of POI during that time. Note that one of those other times was also Red Mesa, though the collapse was only on the silo side of the loot room building that time.

It is possible that this has something to do with chunks not loading quickly enough on a POI that is on multiple chunks and that causes stability problems, though that's just a guess.

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Reproduction Steps
Nothing reliable. Start a quest and see if the POI collapses when it resets for the quest. The percent that I've seen collapsing on quest start is very low, so it's not easy to reproduce.
Link to Logs
http://www.pastebin.com/
Link to Screenshot/Video
http://www.youtube.com/

Attachments

The same thing is currently happening on my server with player buildings. Some have only partially collapsed, others completely, and it looked like an impact crater.test1.jpgtest2.jpg
 
Thank you for reporting.
I attempted to reproduce the issue in both a single player game and as a client on a dedicated server. I was not able to reproduce this after 50 attempts each.
If possible, please post the information of the map that this occurred on. Maybe it has something to do with where the POI spawned at.
 
On my server, the two player buildings that collapsed or disappeared are located exactly on a region border. Could this have something to do with it?
 
This was in SP for Navezgane at Mesa and appeared on the 6th attempt.
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For dedis, this has appeared on the first attempt in a server which has had a ping of 125~, or for closer server locations where it has been running for 2-3 hours without a restart.
 
arramus said:
This was in SP for Navezgane at Mesa and appeared on the 6th attempt.
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For dedis, this has appeared on the first attempt in a server which has had a ping of 125~, or for closer server locations where it has been running for 2-3 hours without a restart.
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Thank you for the information arramus. I'll try a bit more. Did you hear an explosion before the POI started collapsing? There are vehicles in that area of the POI.
Never mind. I worked on a repro and got it on my first attempt. I will be writing an internal report for this issue.
 
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Glad you could reproduce it. I could tell you my map seed, but I made some adjustments to the RWG settings when making the map and couldn't tell you exactly what those were.

And no, no explosion other than the cop that I mentioned. But that was at the main gate, so shouldn't have affected anything, and I'm pretty sure it was collapsing before that.

And just for reference, although I've seen this a couple of times at Red Mesa, I've also seen it at other POI. Red Mesa is just the one that I took note of.

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Blackmadman said:
On my server, the two player buildings that collapsed or disappeared are located exactly on a region border. Could this have something to do with it?
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It is possible. That's a different situation than a POI reset causing a collapse, but yours could relate to being on a region border. I think I saw something about a region border problem a couple of months ago, but I don't remember the details.
 
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