theFlu
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Heh, but in a .. what, a "flash of poetic irony", it was the mod's snarky tone that got me to snark at the process itself.. which eventually lead to the escalation of the issue
PC Raining through the roof - still.
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mprojekt
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Heh, but in a .. what, a "flash of poetic irony", it was the mod's snarky tone that got me to snark at the process itself.. which eventually lead to the escalation of the issue
Thank you for relaying what you encountered.
NekoPawtato
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That's odd, I just realized that too. The only reason why I knew to put it in bug pool was because of Hated's version for A20 tells you to put it in bug pool
I guess that part got removed in the A21 version?
Another thing I want to know is how people are able to edit their comments in the A21 bug report section, I've seen one or two people do it but I don't have that option (not editing the report itself, but when people comment/post to an existing report how do they edit that to avoid double posting)
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mprojekt
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@NekoPawtato - Just felt that it was worth noting which bug list I searched in order to figure out whether "rain falls thru Zelekt bulletproof glass floor and glass skylight" had been logged yet.
And it took me to this Google doc:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13VnmkOdKC9XEOy_neb0Tp34-WPXu-aDw4jfJxcquuvc/edit#gid=0
Which didn't have any such line item last night. If it gets updated to include what Old Crow reported, between the time I type this slowly and when you read it, :shrug: At least it got updated.
And it took me to this Google doc:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13VnmkOdKC9XEOy_neb0Tp34-WPXu-aDw4jfJxcquuvc/edit#gid=0
Which didn't have any such line item last night. If it gets updated to include what Old Crow reported, between the time I type this slowly and when you read it, :shrug: At least it got updated.
NekoPawtato
QA
I've just made a habit of checking all the bugs in the A21 section since, from my experience, not all bugs reported make it into the Google doc for some reason (dunno why, I did ask one staff recently about it but haven't heard back). You can use the search bar on the top right and select the THIRD "records" in the dropdown to filter your search and it will only look for posts in the A21 Bugs section (Don't pick the other two because that will search the old A19 and A20 bug section)
One possible explanation I could think of is if a bug is in the current experimental, but fixed in later internal builds that aren't released yet, then perhaps that is why it's not on the Google Doc.
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mprojekt
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I've just made a habit of checking all the bugs in the A21 section since, from my experience, not all bugs reported make it into the Google doc for some reason (dunno why, I did ask one staff recently about it but haven't heard back). You can use the search bar on the top right and select the THIRD "records" in the dropdown to filter your search and it will only look for posts in the A21 Bugs section (Don't pick the other two because that will search the old A19 and A20 bug section)
One possible explanation I could think of is if a bug is in the current experimental, but fixed in later internal builds that aren't released yet, then perhaps that is why it's not on the Google Doc.
I did a mouse-over of the search bar but a "Records" pull-down did not appear. Which browser are you using? I am using the latest official build of Firefox, but my security preferences and anti-malware extensions may be causing me not to see some buttons and other site features.
I can use Chrome, Edge, or Opera for browsing and interacting with the 7Days forum if that is what it takes to be able to view the site as SylenThunder and the other mods do.
Riamus
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If you're in the bug section, Records should be default, so even if you don't have the dropdown menu, you should be fine for searching.
As far as that GoogleDoc goes.... why in the world are they using something like that instead of an actual bug tracker? I mean, if they were in the first 6 months of starting to make their first game, then maybe I could see that being used but after close to 10 years, they should be using a real bug tracker instead. It makes searching far easier.
mprojekt
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Unscientific, wild-assed guess: Maybe they do so, internally, and the GoogleDoc is only intended for us?
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Riamus
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mprojekt
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This is true. Before I retired, my last employer used a bug tracker that allowed external viewing so our automotive partners could easily see what issues affected them, and we were able to segregate their view based on which automaker they worked for. As I understand it, all the providers we talked to, before settling on one, offered that capability, and much more besides.
NekoPawtato
QA
I'm also using Firefox, so I'm not sure
but as Riamus mentioned if you're already in the A21 section it will automatically apply that filter in the search barI believe they use Jira for internal bug tracking, which if you are using the cloud version, after a certain number of users, they have to pay licensing per user. I had another game that I played that tried making Jira available to the public for tracking purposes but to cut costs due to Jira's licensing model they would automatically disable accounts if you don't log in after 30 days and you'd have to contact someone to get access back
(they ended up switching to another platform for bugs in the end).Not saying that this is the reason, but just sharing my experiences with Jira
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mprojekt
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I'm also using Firefox, so I'm not sure
I believe they use Jira for internal bug tracking, which if you are using the cloud version, after a certain number of users, they have to pay licensing per user. I had another game that I played that tried making Jira available to the public for tracking purposes but to cut costs due to Jira's licensing model they would automatically disable accounts if you don't log in after 30 days and you'd have to contact someone to get access back
There could be other reasons though, I'm just guessing here
We were transitioning away from Jira because the licensing costs. I don't know what my former employer settled on, as I exited before anything was finalized, but I do know that our partners all wished to add all of their software engineers, PM's, UX, and etc. My boss spit out his coffee, and the piece of bagel he was munching, when he found out the requirement to include over four hundred people, from six different automakers, was non-negotiable.
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