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Ragsy' s A20 Modlets

Wonderful, the raft boat is back.
Thank you very much rags, I have to wait for my motorized bathtub.
Regards
Just waiting on MP tests so should not be long ...

The Raft will get some more love when i get some time to fully update it but for now its working as before with a few tweaks ...  

Ragsy !!

 
Just waiting on MP tests so should not be long ...

The Raft will get some more love when i get some time to fully update it but for now its working as before with a few tweaks ...  

Ragsy !!


Speaking about the raft Ragsy, I'm afraid I found some unexpected behavior with the mod. I crafted it, placed it near the water and when I entered the raft, as soon as I tried to drive it, it almost killed me, I quickly started to lose health for some reason. I quickly jumped off, the raft started drifting away fast. Luckily it got stuck at the other side of the shore, so after a long swim to catch it, I was finally able to get it back. Not the type of sail trip I had in my mind when I was placing the raft LOL :classic_laugh: , but to that point, it would all be bearable, bad things happen, but then something even worse happened. I opened my inventory and realized I cannot move anything around my inventory, cannot sort the inventory with the quick sort button either. I'm pretty sure this happened after placing the raft. Any ideas, please? 🥺

EDIT: The inventory fixed itself when I went back to menu and then back to game, but I imagine the same thing could easly happen again. I hope we can fix this.

 
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Not had the issue during testing ...will look into it .   Odd ineeded.  

Cant see any reason to for the Raft to cause an inventory sorting issue either ? 

Ragsy !!

 
Not had the issue during testing ...will look into it .   Odd ineeded.  

Cant see any reason to for the Raft to cause an inventory sorting issue either ? 

Ragsy !!
Also, just to make sure. Did you make the raft so that it cannot be picked up again? In these situations where raft is moving away from me, I wish I was able to pick it up quickly to prevent that lol

 
Also, just to make sure. Did you make the raft so that it cannot be picked up again? In these situations where raft is moving away from me, I wish I was able to pick it up quickly to prevent that lol
I have not changed anything on the Raft other than change the lootid to loot name ....   a couple of physics tweaks in xml as initally was too low in water on A20 .     I am going to re do the raft completely at some point soon ....    I have a feeling the old style of vehicle seating might be the cause of why player damage occcurs  .... willl switch it all over to the new system as soon as i can .     I have not seen the issue with inventory though although might be linked to that maybe .   Will check it out tonight and see what i can reproduce .  

Ragsy!!

 
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I have not changed anything on the Raft other than change the lootid to loot name ....   a couple of physics tweaks in xml as initally was too low in water on A20 .     I am going to re do the raft completely at some point soon ....    I have a feeling the old style of vehicle seating might be the cause of why player damage occcurs  .... willl switch it all over to the new system as soon as i can .     I have not seen the issue with inventory though although might be linked to that maybe .   Will check it out tonight and see what i can reproduce .  

Ragsy!!
Thank you! If you're sure the raft should be pickable, then I guess I might have a mod conflict, because my raft cannot be picked up. Still, I don't know what could it be, because I don't have any other vehicle mods, just your raft and jet ski.

 
Thank you! If you're sure the raft should be pickable, then I guess I might have a mod conflict, because my raft cannot be picked up. Still, I don't know what could it be, because I don't have any other vehicle mods, just your raft and jet ski.


Ok I can confirm that the player damage can occur when entering water from the river bank .....  In certain positions when lauching from a river bank the feet hit the ground and player takes damage. 

I got no damage if i placed in a suitable shallow area and entered the Raft.   Thanks for finding this issue as i had not seen it happen before.

I have tested with new style seat class where i can position the feet in a more natural position and tested launching from riverbanks several times and have no damage to player ...  feet up more and actually on the Raft.

Tried inventory exchange sorting and take all back and forth i can find no issue ....

Raft is still placeable and i can pick it up ... although the back where the rudder is need to look to left or right a bit ....all other sides of raft register and can interact.

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I will sort out the other vehicle seating ..maybe go with 2 fixed and two modded seats ....  so an update to the raft will be pushed as soon as i can get it finalised .   I dare say moving the player up a bit might have fixed the issue with older seat style but whilst in Rome ....   

Regards

Ragsy!!

 
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Thank you for looking into this Ragsy, in the meantime I realized I cannot open the inventory on the raft and not only that, I can't open any vehicle inventory, neither can I pick up any vehicle placed in the world. I'm starting to suspect these other issues might be caused by something totally different. I will try to disable some other mods and report back with whatever I manage to find.

 
I found the problem and it WAS completely different thing, but seeing what's causing this problem doesn't make me feel any better. UGH! It was SphereII's Core mod that's causing the following problems: vehicles cannot be picked up, their inventories cannot be accessed. I'm not sure if this is going to be addressed in the official Core release, but I hope it will, because this is not good!

@sphereii, please?

 
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I found the problem and it WAS completely different thing, but seeing what's causing this problem doesn't make me feel any better. UGH! It was SphereII's Core mod that's causing the following problems: vehicles cannot be picked up, their inventories cannot be accessed. I'm not sure if this is going to be addressed in the official Core release, but I hope it will, because this is not good!

@sphereii, please?


And what, precisely, is the issue? Are you using my A20 experimental code? Do you have a log file?

 
Happy End Ragsy! Sphereii managed to fix the problem in the Core, so that we no longer have the issue with the vehicles as they could not be picked up nor their inventory accessed! I wanted to thank you for your patience with me, for your time and effort and I'm sorry for the false alarm as I thought this was related to your mod. ❤️

 
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Happy End Ragsy! Sphereii managed to fix the problem in the Core, so that we no longer have the issue with the vehicles as they could not be picked up nor their inventory accessed! I wanted to thank you for your patience with me, for your time and effort and I'm sorry for the false alarm as I thought this was related to your mod. ❤️
No problem mr.devolver at least we have a reason and a fix on the matter of vehicle pickups and accessing the vehicles when using the Sphereii core for A20  .....  but you did discover an issue on the Raft damaging player in A20 so for that I thank you for spotting it .    A Fix is underway on my side so watch out for an update soon .

Regards

Ragsy !!

 
No problem mr.devolver at least we have a reason and a fix on the matter of vehicle pickups and accessing the vehicles when using the Sphereii core for A20  .....  but you did discover an issue on the Raft damaging player in A20 so for that I thank you for spotting it .    A Fix is underway on my side so watch out for an update soon .

Regards

Ragsy !!
By the way, are you planning to add a custom navicon for the Raft? It's missing at the moment. I added 4x4 icon to it in my singleplayer game to see the raft in the world. Not that I would like to leave it alone for too long, because it tends to move on it's own into the water lol, but still. For the small periods of time when I leave it on the shore, I like to see where I placed it. :)

 
By the way, are you planning to add a custom navicon for the Raft? It's missing at the moment. I added 4x4 icon to it in my singleplayer game to see the raft in the world. Not that I would like to leave it alone for too long, because it tends to move on it's own into the water lol, but still. For the small periods of time when I leave it on the shore, I like to see where I placed it. :)
Yeah i was in the next revamp ... although can do that whilst re doing the seating over next 24hrs ..

I find if i leave the Raft in the water the raft stays where it was in the water if you level it off when coming to a halt .    

Ragsy !!

 
Yeah i was in the next revamp ... although can do that whilst re doing the seating over next 24hrs ..

I find if i leave the Raft in the water the raft stays where it was in the water if you level it off when coming to a halt .    

Ragsy !!
Hmm, well it seems to love to "go into the water" if you know what I mean, even if I put it on the ground, somehow it always tries to "sail" to the water and once in the water, it sails away on its own, it's like if it was possessed or something lol

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I did try to level it up in the water, but I was worried to leave it alone there due to what it did when I left it on the ground, so do you think it's actually safer to leave it in the water?

I loved your green boat in A19, I used to drive it around town when I couldn't get anything to move around lol and I remember it was more or less stable on the ground, but in some situations, I found it several meters away in weird positions when I came back to it after some time not seeing it.

 
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I have done several playthrough's of Vehicle Madness so far in A20 .....  I use the 'Dinghy' early game and park up boat in water and its never moved .    But yeah you may find boats dont work like that now in Town as I put some stuff in place minimise movement and break the steering control .    I could probably go 'code route' to stop boats on land but I am just starting out on that side of things in c#   ..  until i can get my head around that side of modding I will be aiming still for XML soluitions in vehicles  . 

Seems to be an issue with water now .... damages player if you break a water block ...never happened in A19 ... currently looking at why but it only happens the most to the poor Raft  which will be getting a rework soon in unity...  on the other boats if you park to close to shore could have issues so other than that they work fine with the physics adjustments .  

Ragsy !!

 
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