PC "Things I learned from watching the streamers" -- **SPOILER ALERT**

Aldranon

Aldranon

New member
I think it will be a good idea for people to put as many posts here so people that DONT want to know can avoid this thread.

- Richard gave a good history of TFP and answered a lot of questions on Primes twitter stream. Its hard to hear Richard as prime will talk over Richard a lot.

- Inventory management is a big deal, loot is pretty abundant.

- Some quest POI's will kill you dead, dead ,dead. (A possible bug, but the ones I saw are designed to kill you.)

- Deer AI is bugged.

- With enough arrows. you are mostly safe outside, except for anything fast.

- You can get EXP doing most things (the EX gain will show up at the lower right)

OK, that's enough for now, anyone feel free to add to it! :)

 
God, please, no more entities running in circle..
Click to expand...
No the deer was against a bolder and decided not to move while Prime killed it with a stone axe. To Primes credit he said it felt dirty to kill it like that. :)

 
What I learnt from watching Streamers:

Players are too often failing to coordinate as a team.

Having to group together to benefit from Quests is leading to players faffing around waiting for another one to arive in the group (usually caused by re-spawning after a careless death, or just mindlessly faffing about without their team).

SP is far more desirable to a goal oriented player like myself.

In future I hope to only ever watch streamers if they are professional players, or professional about amusing their audience (eg Neebs). All the others are just tossers passing time like a drunkard passes water.

 
I watched Shadow Fox tonight and it was pretty hilarious. There were several jump scare moments that were priceless to see her reactions. I have been waiting months to see players react to the awesome scary moments in this game so that was very rewarding. I also noticed the faffing that Pico mentioned but I think it is because the game is so new and the tried and true routines have been disrupted. One quote from her was telling, "We usually have a forge and are making cement by Day 2 and now it is Day 5 and we have some wood and some fibers".

There are lots of small changes that will go unnoticed if players don't read the tooltips, the stats, and the journal entries. For example, regular bandages heal you and you can make them easily and use them to keep your max health up but most players expect them to still be mostly useless.

 
Yeah, Day 2 forge and day 4 cement was pretty silly, so while I might quietly curse it, I respect the change.

If people don't want to feel the game is pointless past day 40, then they should be prepared to suffer a bit while they upskill.

Seems playing Dead Is Dead style won't be worthwhile anymore though. Got to learn to embrace the respawn.

 
you now have to "learn" how to boil an egg??!

repeated use of bandages, shouldnt be able to keep adding to your health, they are used just to stop bleed out, imagine if you used about 15 of them



 
Last edited by a moderator:
You will need to melee if you want to claim a poi. Hoarding skill points will get you killed. you have to be smart and plan your loot runs now. Food is a very important thing now, as the player appears to need to eat every 5 minutes or they will starve to death.

air drops are super important.

Spikes are for decoration only.

The only way you will kill zombies on the first horde night is when you poi falls on them.

Pois that you think are structurally stable, will collapse during horde night.

bows are for hunting only.

Waste nothing. If you throw anything away, then you are an idiot and deserve the slow, horrible death you will receive.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Things i learned? I can't wait to play A17 :smile-new:

But seriously, i think:

1. Complete the tutorial quests

2. Pay attention to all of the info the game provides, from item and buff/debuff descriptions to tips and how the POIs are designed

3. Some things are not just shown and you have to know them, like:

- The hunger meter shown on stamina bar (amount of black)

- Hypo/hyperthermal protections on char sheet

- The encumberance inventory slots and the amount of slowing down they do is not big if you fill one or two spots

- You have to punch some of the plants, not simply pick up

 
Seems those Pages that add a temporary buff to perks and such are pretty abundant.

I'm going to use them as fast as I get them for my first game.

Get to know what they do.

May as well make the most of the first game right?

 
i wish the fun pimps would reinvest some time into the whole loot bag for zombies scenario and just revert it back to looting the zombie. to me, it feels more realistic to search the bodies vs "oh look, it dropped a bag".

 
i wish the fun pimps would reinvest some time into the whole loot bag for zombies scenario and just revert it back to looting the zombie. to me, it feels more realistic to search the bodies vs "oh look, it dropped a bag".
Click to expand...
does this new thing save some PC performance? no goreblocks lying around = more power to calculate something else?

I don't know but it feels like it. I need to get my hands on this patch ASAP.

 
does this new thing save some PC performance? no goreblocks lying around = more power to calculate something else?I don't know but it feels like it. I need to get my hands on this patch ASAP.
Click to expand...
that, i believe, is what the fun pimps were going for. with that said, that still doesnt mean that they couldnt just remove the loot bags and have the players search the bodies. the gore blocks, to me were more realistic than having the bodies disappear, but they could have just removed the blocks completely anyways.

if the zombie is empty, great, you dont get a "search" option. the body disappears as normal

if the zombie did have loot, you get the option to search, after searched, the body disappears as normal

better option to me is search the bodies, no gore blocks after, bodies disappear as normal

/shrug

 
Last edited by a moderator:
The biggest thing ive learned from watching a few of the youtube videos is, DO NOT FIGHT ZOMBIES!!!!! Or at least until you are actually ready to defend yourself. it seems that zombies are a lot smarter than they were before, and a lot harder to kill.

 
I think that loot bags will stay longer than the bodies, meaning that they are way safer. Still it's a matter of the bodies (being more sophisticated than a loot bag i presume) being stripped of the ability to loot them completely, take less memory than a body that may or may not be lootable.

You simply have to transfer your mindset to new concepts, like the new perk system, non-lootable corpses, different fighting mechanics, advanced buffs, etc. I don't know exactly in what mod, but i remember i played in one where the bodies were not lootable. It worked out quite fine there.

Going back to the main topic, what you guys think of the new POIs?

 
Zombies should have a random chance to "fake" their deaths!

After a strong hit, they should have a chance to make the deathsound and stay down for 3-5 seconds.

Cause right now, they ALWAYS get back up instantly (which is nice because you don't get a breather) but it also means you always know if a zombie is dead.

A 20% chance at every strong hit when they are >50% and

20% chance at every hit when under 25%.

When they "fake" their deaths, they are completely unresponsive (no sounds when hit) and have a random number (between 3 and 10) seconds before they get back up.

 
Zombies should have a random chance to "fake" their deaths!After a strong hit, they should have a chance to make the deathsound and stay down for 3-5 seconds.

Cause right now, they ALWAYS get back up instantly (which is nice because you don't get a breather) but it also means you always know if a zombie is dead.

A 20% chance at every strong hit when they are >50% and

20% chance at every hit when under 25%.

When they "fake" their deaths, they are completely unresponsive (no sounds when hit) and have a random number (between 3 and 10) seconds before they get back up.
Click to expand...
Next you’ll be complaining that TFP should get rid of the xp display in the lower right because it always tells you when you’ve killed a zombie.

 
Is the infinite arrows exploit in here already?

Saw that in the gamesocietypimps stream. You can pick the arrow off another player's bow, but they keep it in fact. When swapping the weapon off and back on a new pickable arrow becomes visible for the other player. Repeat ad infinitum.

Edit: Guess this belongs in the bug reports, is there already a thread for it?

(edit added comment by QA Tester-unholyjoe)


hey Kam...


the arrows being stolen from another player's weapon was reported last week by another qa tester. they are working on it. thanks for mentioning it and i linked this comment into our bug report so devs can see more info.




Edit edit: Damn too fast :D I just found the bug reports thread and put it in there too.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top