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Quest Tweaks & Added Skill Point Rewards
- Thread starter Laokia
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Laokia
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@Reytag:
Thanks for mentioning this! I had not been online for this past week so I missed the update drop entirely. It seems like there may be a few changes to quest-related things so it might take a little time to figure out what all I need to edit. Plus I want to try to make sure that I won't be breaking any saves, lol. I wish I could say I'd have it done tonight but I'm actually not feeling well (it is causing my vision to blur pretty bad which is impacting my ability to read/type). I will definitely have an update out within the next few days and might even have it tonight but with how much trouble I'm having I don't want to make mistakes by trying to rush it.
I am pretty excited about this fix in the notes:
Thanks for mentioning this! I had not been online for this past week so I missed the update drop entirely. It seems like there may be a few changes to quest-related things so it might take a little time to figure out what all I need to edit. Plus I want to try to make sure that I won't be breaking any saves, lol. I wish I could say I'd have it done tonight but I'm actually not feeling well (it is causing my vision to blur pretty bad which is impacting my ability to read/type). I will definitely have an update out within the next few days and might even have it tonight but with how much trouble I'm having I don't want to make mistakes by trying to rush it.
I am pretty excited about this fix in the notes:
Granted that means that I will have to test that it is working with the mod edits and will most likely have to again have two versions to make sure I won't be breaking anything. They also mentioned changing the 'Kill the Wabbit' quest to work with the double barrel shotgun so my tweak that changed that is no longer needed, but I do not know how removing it will affect things. I will work on it and will post again once I get a tested, working update ready. I'm sorry it has taken me so long to get to this and that it might be a couple days before I can finish the edits.
@Laokia: Understood, we took the server down 2 days ago to restart due to some buggy loot mods, took the opportunity to make some other changes while I am at it, got most if not all mods updated to 18.2.
My group is like a bunch of rabid dogs though, I don't think I can hold them off any longer, lol.
Will start the server again without the quest mods and see if I can add them afterwards although it looks tricky as I know some are avid questers and they will start doing them right away, will see if I can hold them off.
Sorry to hear you aren't well, get well soon and take it easy, just tackle it when you are better and feel confident about it.
Thanks and have a good weekend!
My group is like a bunch of rabid dogs though, I don't think I can hold them off any longer, lol.
Will start the server again without the quest mods and see if I can add them afterwards although it looks tricky as I know some are avid questers and they will start doing them right away, will see if I can hold them off.
Sorry to hear you aren't well, get well soon and take it easy, just tackle it when you are better and feel confident about it.
Thanks and have a good weekend!
Laokia
New member
Sorry I wasn't able to do this yesterday. The health issues at the moment are caused by allergies, the swelling of my sinuses is insane right now. Yesterday was extra bad due to a front coming through. Luckily it's better today (only my ears seem to be swollen, don't need hearing to mess with code, lol) so I was able to whip all this up and test it.
Everything seems to be working well. I made a few different versions... I wish messing with the quests didn't screw up the character files, but alas. Thanks for your patience, and I hope you have a great weekend as well! Also a great holiday since that's coming up (or possibly already here depending on what/if you celebrate).
Fast Tier Levelling Mod Addon Tool
This just updates the localization files to be inline with the A18.2 change that combined the quest localizations with the main localization file. This will work with A18.2 with or without any of my mods.
Simple A18.2 Upgrade Versions:
Main Mod
Challenge Quest Only Mod Version
Rare Challenge Quests Mod Addon
These are only recommended for those who wish to continue their A18.1 or earlier saves that used these mods to A18.2. They only change the localization files and remove the now-redundant 'Kill the Wabbit' quest tweaks. Should be safe, but backup all character saves first. You may need to remove any 'Kill the Wabbit' quest entries from players' quest logs.
If you plan to do a full restart OR if you don't mind manually removing all quest log entries, then I would recommend using one of the new version options. They remove the now-redundant fixes for quest rewards not shuffling properly and in general seem to work much better with much cleaner code.
Fully Updated Mod for A18.2 Stable - Skill Book Quest Version
Main Mod
Challenge Quest Only Version
Rare Challenge Quests Addon
This version of the mod is fully updated to work with alpha 18.2 stable. All the relevant vanilla game fixes and changes have been accounted for and the mod has been reworked back inline with my original vision. This version adds a reward option to get one or more Skill Book items, which can be read to obtain a Skill Point from an auto-completing quest. The amount of books given has a chance to vary from higher tier/difficulty quests (up to a max of 3 books).
This is unlike the direct skill point version, which gives a set number. The result is that with this version you may get more points from lower tier quests, but you may also get less points from higher tier ones, based on RNG. Also unlike direct skill points, the books can be stored or given to other players.
Fully Updated Mod for A18.2 Stable - Direct Skill Points Version
Main Mod
Challenge Quest Only Version
Rare Challenge Quests Addon
This version of the mod is fully updated to work with alpha 18.2 stable. All the relevant vanilla game fixes and changes have been accounted for and the mod has been reworked back inline with my original vision. This version adds a reward option to get 1 or more Skill Points directly to the player. The amount of skill points offered will depend upon the tier/difficulty of the quest, with the higher tier quests giving a max of 3 skill points.
This is unlike the skill book version, which can give a varied amount based upon RNG. The result is that with this version you will always get the set amount for the tier you are doing, and higher amounts start being given at higher tiers than the book version.
Everything seems to be working well. I made a few different versions... I wish messing with the quests didn't screw up the character files, but alas. Thanks for your patience, and I hope you have a great weekend as well! Also a great holiday since that's coming up (or possibly already here depending on what/if you celebrate).
Fast Tier Levelling Mod Addon Tool
This just updates the localization files to be inline with the A18.2 change that combined the quest localizations with the main localization file. This will work with A18.2 with or without any of my mods.
Simple A18.2 Upgrade Versions:
Main Mod
Challenge Quest Only Mod Version
Rare Challenge Quests Mod Addon
These are only recommended for those who wish to continue their A18.1 or earlier saves that used these mods to A18.2. They only change the localization files and remove the now-redundant 'Kill the Wabbit' quest tweaks. Should be safe, but backup all character saves first. You may need to remove any 'Kill the Wabbit' quest entries from players' quest logs.
If you plan to do a full restart OR if you don't mind manually removing all quest log entries, then I would recommend using one of the new version options. They remove the now-redundant fixes for quest rewards not shuffling properly and in general seem to work much better with much cleaner code.
Fully Updated Mod for A18.2 Stable - Skill Book Quest Version
Main Mod
Challenge Quest Only Version
Rare Challenge Quests Addon
This version of the mod is fully updated to work with alpha 18.2 stable. All the relevant vanilla game fixes and changes have been accounted for and the mod has been reworked back inline with my original vision. This version adds a reward option to get one or more Skill Book items, which can be read to obtain a Skill Point from an auto-completing quest. The amount of books given has a chance to vary from higher tier/difficulty quests (up to a max of 3 books).
This is unlike the direct skill point version, which gives a set number. The result is that with this version you may get more points from lower tier quests, but you may also get less points from higher tier ones, based on RNG. Also unlike direct skill points, the books can be stored or given to other players.
Fully Updated Mod for A18.2 Stable - Direct Skill Points Version
Main Mod
Challenge Quest Only Version
Rare Challenge Quests Addon
This version of the mod is fully updated to work with alpha 18.2 stable. All the relevant vanilla game fixes and changes have been accounted for and the mod has been reworked back inline with my original vision. This version adds a reward option to get 1 or more Skill Points directly to the player. The amount of skill points offered will depend upon the tier/difficulty of the quest, with the higher tier quests giving a max of 3 skill points.
This is unlike the skill book version, which can give a varied amount based upon RNG. The result is that with this version you will always get the set amount for the tier you are doing, and higher amounts start being given at higher tiers than the book version.
Laokia
New member
With everything working correctly, the skill points tend to be a bit more common a reward choice than I would like (at least for players with adventurer Lvl 3, which is not difficult to get). I feel that this ends up making things too unbalanced as then players could just focus on perking into adventurer and would more often than not get skill points for completing any quest.
To remedy this and balance it out a bit more, I made alternate versions of the mod (both a skill book version and a direct skill point version) that spread out the reward offers to result in the skills being a bit rarer. With the new revision, a single point in Adventurer will have a 1-in-9 chance to have a skill point offered. That would increase to 2/9 for level 2 and 3/9 for level 3. Previously it was a 1-in-4 or 1-in-5 chance.
Unfortunately the method I used to do this involved changing the vanilla game offered rewards a bit. The changes are not too drastic, but some reward choices will no longer show up with zero points into the adventurer perk. I could have done this a different way, but that would have resulted in possibly getting offered 2 or more choices of items from the same loot pool. If anyone wants it, I can make that second option- it would mean that the no-perk vanilla options would remain the same but that you might get offered more than one of the same thing. I can also make a version in which the skill point rewards are even rarer should anyone want that.
Rarer Skill Books Version
Main Mod
Rare Challenge Quests Addon
Rarer Skill Points Version
Main Mod
Rare Challenge Quests Addon
To remedy this and balance it out a bit more, I made alternate versions of the mod (both a skill book version and a direct skill point version) that spread out the reward offers to result in the skills being a bit rarer. With the new revision, a single point in Adventurer will have a 1-in-9 chance to have a skill point offered. That would increase to 2/9 for level 2 and 3/9 for level 3. Previously it was a 1-in-4 or 1-in-5 chance.
Unfortunately the method I used to do this involved changing the vanilla game offered rewards a bit. The changes are not too drastic, but some reward choices will no longer show up with zero points into the adventurer perk. I could have done this a different way, but that would have resulted in possibly getting offered 2 or more choices of items from the same loot pool. If anyone wants it, I can make that second option- it would mean that the no-perk vanilla options would remain the same but that you might get offered more than one of the same thing. I can also make a version in which the skill point rewards are even rarer should anyone want that.
Rarer Skill Books Version
Main Mod
Rare Challenge Quests Addon
Rarer Skill Points Version
Main Mod
Rare Challenge Quests Addon
Laokia
New member
An update:
The only thing in my mods that was affected by the alpha 18.3 b4 stable release was the Localization files. I have updated those, and changing them should have no affect on save game data, thankfully. Sorry that I have not been able to take the time to sort out this thread or anything like that.
Remember to back up your save data before updating these mods (or any mods really)!
If an error occurs when using one of these mod versions, try to just copy the Localization.txt files from the appropriate version and just replace them in the version of the mod you were previously running. I may have made an update that I failed to actually release due to craziness but if so the Localization file is all that needs to be changed anyway so you should be good if you only use that (and backup before trying to update).
Quest Tweaks - Common Skill Book Version
( + ) Rare Quests Addon
Quest Tweaks - Rarer Skill Book Version
( + ) Rare Quests Addon
Quest Tweaks - Common Skill Point Version
( + ) Rare Quests Addon
Quest Tweaks - Rarer Skill Point Version
( + ) Rare Quests Addon
The only thing in my mods that was affected by the alpha 18.3 b4 stable release was the Localization files. I have updated those, and changing them should have no affect on save game data, thankfully. Sorry that I have not been able to take the time to sort out this thread or anything like that.
Remember to back up your save data before updating these mods (or any mods really)!
If an error occurs when using one of these mod versions, try to just copy the Localization.txt files from the appropriate version and just replace them in the version of the mod you were previously running. I may have made an update that I failed to actually release due to craziness but if so the Localization file is all that needs to be changed anyway so you should be good if you only use that (and backup before trying to update).
Quest Tweaks - Common Skill Book Version
( + ) Rare Quests Addon
Quest Tweaks - Rarer Skill Book Version
( + ) Rare Quests Addon
Quest Tweaks - Common Skill Point Version
( + ) Rare Quests Addon
Quest Tweaks - Rarer Skill Point Version
( + ) Rare Quests Addon