Просадка фпс \ FPS drawdown

[starinfo]

При игре просаживается фпс и появляются лаги, местами даже падения рендера не помогает.Конфига для теста было два r5-3600(4.3gh) 32 оперативы 3200, 1060(6) иr5 1600x 32 оперативы 3200, rx590просто в один момент пропадает нагрузка на видеокарту и начинаются лагиАфтербарнер показывает 15-20% нагрузки на видеокарту, куллера даже не включаются, нагрузки настолько нет, что температура графических процессоров как в простое.Так же заметно падает фпс при использовании автоматических турелей(ПП и дробовик)просто при подаче питания просадка фпсИгра работает на минимальных настройках, уже выглядит просто убого, но лагает

When playing, FPS drops and lags appear, in some places even rendering drops do not help.
The config for the test was two r5-3600 (4.3gh) 32 operatives 3200, 1060 (6) and
r5 1600x 32 rams 3200, rx590
just at one moment the load on the video card disappears and lags begin
The afterburner shows 15-20% load on the video card, the cooler does not even turn on, there is no load so much that the temperature of the GPUs is as in idle.

FPS also noticeably drops when using automatic turrets (PP and shotgun)
fps drop when power on
The game runs at minimum settings, it already looks just wretched, but lags

 

[starinfo]

Well, what else to add, I tried to install an "experimental" server or whatever it is...

I didn’t play it myself, the second user suddenly stopped opening everything, after the restart it turned out that the progress for the last 2 hours of the game was gone

moved to the usual 20.3, after which the drones were simply nailed to one place on the ground

I don’t know what kind of output this craft can have in the EGS, but there is no adequacy, it was slower as it was, this will probably remain

a game for the elite, probably, to play on rtx3090 without lags, I xs just

 

[Beelzybub]

The config for the test was two r5-3600 (4.3gh) 32 operatives 3200, 1060 (6) and
r5 1600x 32 rams 3200, rx590

I have a 1060 which works well on medium settings. On ultra the fps is pretty bad.

Post your log file and graphic settings, maybe someone can see the problem.

 

[starinfo]

Yesterday I managed to invite a person with an Intel Core I5 12600, 32 ram and rth3050, and even in difficult scenes his frame rate dropped to 45. But he just started playing, let's try to see what happens in the future.I noticed that users on the AMD platform have problems with fps, maybe this is my subjective opinion, but I see a lack of optimization in the game.Yesterday I recorded a video, it probably makes no sense to fix it, where the FPS on the counter ranges from 6 to 24 when performing a task, and again the video card does not show any load.

 

[Beelzybub]

Post your log file and graphic settings,

Without more details from you, no one will be able to solve your problem.

 

[starinfo]

Without more details from you, no one will be able to solve your problem.

I would not mind, let them make a normal submit mechanism so that you can share data, in 9 years you can set everything up, and not read a bunch of manuals on how to correctly fill in information about bugs

 

[Beelzybub]

I would not mind, let them make a normal submit mechanism so that you can share data, in 9 years you can set everything up, and not read a bunch of manuals on how to correctly fill in information about bugs

Just post your output log to pastebin.com and link it here.

 

[starinfo]

Just post your output log to pastebin.com and link it here.

Do I still need to register on a third-party site and post something there?
why can't you just throw the log files into the topic?
why should I suffer even more?

 

[starinfo]

To this I am leading that a very stupid system.
Why can't you just add an archive with logs to the topic, quickly and conveniently?
if this site is also from 7 days, why can't you use the same account as here?
why do I need so much suffering when buying a game and when I try to help, I get even more?

 

[meganoth]

I just looked at pastebin and you don't need an account to paste anything. You only need an account to edit or delete anything you posted.

Some information about this game and performance:

1) 7D2D is a voxel-based game. It is a rather unusual way to represent the world but allows for a fully changeable world. But it has a price, it needs much more performance from the CPU than most games. It does not matter much what GPU you have, you need a recent and powerful CPU and ultimate settings are REALLY ultimate (don't use them unless you really have a top-of-the-line CPU and maybe not even then). Ryzen 5 3600 is a mid-range CPU from 3 years ago !!

2) 7D2D is not finished, it is in EA and still gets developed to be published at a future date. It will run well with PCs that are sold at that time but it will still be very demanding on the CPU. No way around it, 7D2D presents an unusual load to current PCs. If you want to play games without any problems, do not play games when they are still in Early Access.

3) There are still a lots of bugs and relatively few saveguards. Especially when you move between different versions of the game or use mods it is very easy to break the game. If you get in trouble, there is a way to reset everything: Start the launcher, select the tools tab and use the last option there to delete all configuration. Then delete the games program folder with Windows Explorer (if you are using Windows) and let steam reload the game.

 

[starinfo]

I just looked at pastebin and you don't need an account to paste anything. You only need an account to edit or delete anything you posted.

Some information about this game and performance:

1) 7D2D is a voxel-based game. It is a rather unusual way to represent the world but allows for a fully changeable world. But it has a price, it needs much more performance from the CPU than most games. It does not matter much what GPU you have, you need a recent and powerful CPU and ultimate settings are REALLY ultimate (don't use them unless you really have a top-of-the-line CPU and maybe not even then). Ryzen 5 3600 is a mid-range CPU from 3 years ago !!

2) 7D2D is not finished, it is in EA and still gets developed to be published at a future date. It will run well with PCs that are sold at that time but it will still be very demanding on the CPU. No way around it, 7D2D presents an unusual load to current PCs. If you want to play games without any problems, do not play games when they are still in Early Access.

3) There are still a lots of bugs and relatively few saveguards. Especially when you move between different versions of the game or use mods it is very easy to break the game. If you get in trouble, there is a way to reset everything: Start the launcher, select the tools tab and use the last option there to delete all configuration. Then delete the games program folder with Windows Explorer (if you are using Windows) and let steam reload the game.

Well, after reading how everyone interferes with @%$# in this truly great game, I don’t even know what to say)
Especially after the phrase that for such an amazing game with such charming graphics (which is not there) you need a processor more abruptly than 3600, I just don’t have words)
But a special thanks to the fact that at the time of the game the processor is not even 30% involved, but it lags all over)
Probably really a problem in it, and a great game probably requires 5950x to play at least at the initial settings of 60 fps, thanks for opening my eyes to what is happening.
So no one has ever done normal iron with @%$#

I propose to bring this approach to development to everything, something won’t run into - buy the top-end hardware, if it doesn’t help, it’s already outdated and you need to take a new one, this is just top advice)

The next top tip will be - well, you already bought the game, gave money for it, you don’t have to play in general)
I think this is the best advice
don’t add the ability to send logs on the form, but just don’t play)

https://pastebin.com/pJ88djuc

https://pastebin.com/bLFh6SLm



And then just like that, a good toastmaster and excellent contests
Maybe you need to buy a subscription to post logs, who knows, why not

 

[meganoth]

Well, after reading how everyone interferes with @%$# in this truly great game, I don’t even know what to say)
Especially after the phrase that for such an amazing game with such charming graphics (which is not there) you need a processor more abruptly than 3600, I just don’t have words)
But a special thanks to the fact that at the time of the game the processor is not even 30% involved, but it lags all over)

The 30% is probably all CPU cores together. But one of your CPU cores is likely at 100% while some others are only at 20%. But that one core runs the game loop necessary for the graphics library (Unity) and there is not much that TFP can do, only the Unity developers can eventually deliver something that runs well on multicore machines.

Also other parts of the PC can get congested, for example internal data paths. The world data in 7D2D is much bigger than in typical games and there is a lot of loading done which might also drop FPS at different times.

Probably really a problem in it, and a great game probably requires 5950x to play at least at the initial settings of 60 fps, thanks for opening my eyes to what is happening.
So no one has ever done normal iron with @%$#

I propose to bring this approach to development to everything, something won’t run into - buy the top-end hardware, if it doesn’t help, it’s already outdated and you need to take a new one, this is just top advice)

You don't need top hardware, just don't use ultimate settings. Is that so difficult to understand?

The next top tip will be - well, you already bought the game, gave money for it, you don’t have to play in general)
I think this is the best advice
don’t add the ability to send logs on the form, but just don’t play)

https://pastebin.com/pJ88djuc

https://pastebin.com/bLFh6SLm

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And then just like that, a good toastmaster and excellent contests
Maybe you need to buy a subscription to post logs, who knows, why not

Every time you play you generate a new logfile. Play for just 10 minutes and then your logfile is far below 512 kB. Since you could post two logfiles what is your problem?

I see a bunch of "WRN Entity FallingBlock_32854 (EntityFallingBlock) fell off the world" in both the logfiles, in the first it started at 2022-05-17T17:36 and in the second it started at 2022-05-19T16:40

Do those times coincide with problems you or your co-player had in the game?

 

[starinfo]

The 30% is probably all CPU cores together. But one of your CPU cores is likely at 100% while some others are only at 20%. But that one core runs the game loop necessary for the graphics library (Unity) and there is not much that TFP can do, only the Unity developers can eventually deliver something that runs well on multicore machines.

Also other parts of the PC can get congested, for example internal data paths. The world data in 7D2D is much bigger than in typical games and there is a lot of loading done which might also drop FPS at different times.

You don't need top hardware, just don't use ultimate settings. Is that so difficult to understand?

Every time you play you generate a new logfile. Play for just 10 minutes and then your logfile is far below 512 kB. Since you could post two logfiles what is your problem?

I see a bunch of "WRN Entity FallingBlock_32854 (EntityFallingBlock) fell off the world" in both the logfiles, in the first it started at 2022-05-17T17:36 and in the second it started at 2022-05-19T16:40

Do those times coincide with problems you or your co-player had in the game?

I realized that you are “on you” with iron and do not understand how tiny in fact the difference is between the “ancient” 3600 and the “new” 5600.
Remember Intel with their 5% performance per year, yeah

"You don't need top hardware, just don't use ultimate settings. Is that so difficult to understand?"

Yes, it’s very hard for me to understand, you can look in the logs and finally understand what mega settings I play on in order to write such things, try it?

At the moment I only have a problem with performance, this topic is only about performance.
I don't know about you, I don't play games for 10 minutes playing this one. game, do I have to restart every 10 minutes? is that the whole point?
those. game day goes 1 hour, but I need to restart 6 times it turns out what would it be?

Or maybe I need to buy a paid subscription to load the logit for you?
was it very comfortable?

maybe then it was necessary for me to give the game at least for a start, and not spend money on it?

 

[meganoth]

I realized that you are “on you” with iron and do not understand how tiny in fact the difference is between the “ancient” 3600 and the “new” 5600.
Remember Intel with their 5% performance per year, yeah

"you are “on you” with iron" does not make any sense in english. Try to say it differently or use a different translator

I have a ryzen 2600x and rx580 and I can play the game well at 1920x1080 with many settings off.

"You don't need top hardware, just don't use ultimate settings. Is that so difficult to understand?"

Yes, it’s very hard for me to understand, you can look in the logs and finally understand what mega settings I play on in order to write such things, try it?

Not my area of expertise, I'll let other forum users talk about those settings. I just checked the logfile for errors and some other explanations.

At the moment I only have a problem with performance, this topic is only about performance.
I don't know about you, I don't play games for 10 minutes playing this one. game, do I have to restart every 10 minutes? is that the whole point?
those. game day goes 1 hour, but I need to restart 6 times it turns out what would it be?

Wait, first you say it is ONLY about performance. In the next sentence you complain about restarting every 10 minutes!! What exactly are you talking about? Get your story together, be precise in what happens and someone might help you.

I don't need to restart the game, I usually play 4 hours through in a MP setting without problems. Sure, I've seen crashes happen and sometimes we just see strange stuff in the world and decide to restart the server, just to be safe. But generally the game is stable.

Or maybe I need to buy a paid subscription to load the logit for you?
was it very comfortable?

maybe then it was necessary for me to give the game at least for a start, and not spend money on it?

Is that an answer to anything I said? Again the translation is not making sense.

Did you notice that I said something about a warning I did find in your logfile? I don't see a reply.

 

[starinfo]

"you are “on you” with iron" does not make any sense in english. Try to say it differently or use a different translator

I have a ryzen 2600x and rx580 and I can play the game well at 1920x1080 with many settings off.

Not my area of expertise, I'll let other forum users talk about those settings. I just checked the logfile for errors and some other explanations.

Wait, first you say it is ONLY about performance. In the next sentence you complain about restarting every 10 minutes!! What exactly are you talking about? Get your story together, be precise in what happens and someone might help you.

I don't need to restart the game, I usually play 4 hours through in a MP setting without problems. Sure, I've seen crashes happen and sometimes we just see strange stuff in the world and decide to restart the server, just to be safe. But generally the game is stable.

Is that an answer to anything I said? Again the translation is not making sense.

Did you notice that I said something about a warning I did find in your logfile? I don't see a reply.

But I see the FPS values in the logs and it seems like there are settings values
From this all you can make 2 + 2 probably ...
From your conversation, I realized that I need to log out every 10 minutes to make logs

I'll sum it up.
I do not see any errors at the moment, but this topic is about the lack of optimization and FPS drawdown.
In the logs you can see very low fps.
I can’t upload videos to the forum + also in 2k format
I was not too lazy and with the help of tools from the Nvidia company I recorded the screen when the fps drops to 8 (or even lower) on the gtx 2070
But as always, you probably need to use a third-party service to show such moments.

"you are “on you” with iron" does not make any sense in english. Try to say it differently or use a different translator

This phrase means that, as far as I can see, you do not understand computer components, but I live by this to understand that the miracle did not happen, it's not the "old" processor, it's the lack of optimization on the AMD platform as a whole

 

[starinfo]

And yes ... about the load on one core ... you can also look at such magic)

As you can see, there is no load, but the FPS game still does not give out-of-limit (

 

[meganoth]

But I see the FPS values in the logs and it seems like there are settings values

FPS in the logs are AFAIK not screen FPS but internal ticks.

I know the settings values are in the logs, but it is a part of the logs I don't usually look at.

Didn't you say you chose ultimate settings? That is clear enough. I don't know if any existing hardware is able to play 7D2D in ultimate settings at 3k or above well (as I said I don't have a top rig), maybe some other player can tell you about that and his settings.

From this all you can make 2 + 2 probably ...
From your conversation, I realized that I need to log out every 10 minutes to make logs

Ah, I understand now. Notice you could post a logfile of a session that went on for 5 hours. The 10 minutes was only an example that definitely is below the 512k limit of pastebin

I'll sum it up.
I do not see any errors at the moment, but this topic is about the lack of optimization and FPS drawdown.
In the logs you can see very low fps.

What is very low fps for you? I have seen typical values in the 80's and lowest values around 40. If these were screen FPS that would still be playable in my book.

What can't be avoided is the quite big delay when opening containers or when talking to the trader, but I don't suppose you are talking about that. This is because dotnet needs to do garbage collection from time to time.

I can’t upload videos to the forum + also in 2k format

I was not too lazy and with the help of tools from the Nvidia company I recorded the screen when the fps drops to 8 (or even lower) on the gtx 2070
But as always, you probably need to use a third-party service to show such moments.

"you are “on you” with iron" does not make any sense in english. Try to say it differently or use a different translator

This phrase means that, as far as I can see, you do not understand computer components, but I live by this to understand that the miracle did not happen, it's not the "old" processor, it's the lack of optimization on the AMD platform as a whole

You could be right that a newer CPU won't make that much of a difference. But what if it is the size of the CPU cache, the speed of the internal data bus or something else that is the bottleneck?  As far as I am aware there is no big difference between AMD and Intel with this game, though comparing isn't easy with everyone having different settings. But as I said, I'm no expert on performance.

By the way, sometimes virus scanners, nvidia tools and even for example non-standard settings on the windows cache make the game work badly. Also at least on my machine turning off VSYNC is necessary for better performance.

 

[starinfo]

FPS in the logs are AFAIK not screen FPS but internal ticks.

I know the settings values are in the logs, but it is a part of the logs I don't usually look at.

Didn't you say you chose ultimate settings? That is clear enough. I don't know if any existing hardware is able to play 7D2D in ultimate settings at 3k or above well (as I said I don't have a top rig), maybe some other player can tell you about that and his settings.

Ah, I understand now. Notice you could post a logfile of a session that went on for 5 hours. The 10 minutes was only an example that definitely is below the 512k limit of pastebin

What is very low fps for you? I have seen typical values in the 80's and lowest values around 40. If these were screen FPS that would still be playable in my book.

What can't be avoided is the quite big delay when opening containers or when talking to the trader, but I don't suppose you are talking about that. This is because dotnet needs to do garbage collection from time to time.

You could be right that a newer CPU won't make that much of a difference. But what if it is the size of the CPU cache, the speed of the internal data bus or something else that is the bottleneck?  As far as I am aware there is no big difference between AMD and Intel with this game, though comparing isn't easy with everyone having different settings. But as I said, I'm no expert on performance.

By the way, sometimes virus scanners, nvidia tools and even for example non-standard settings on the windows cache make the game work badly. Also at least on my machine turning off VSYNC is necessary for better performance.

I will write again
All my settings are on ultra low or off,
The shadows are set to the minimum, otherwise the world really “shines” without shadows, I don’t use vertical synchronization because I have a 144Hz monitor with G-sync support (I tried turning it off, it doesn’t affect performance), antiviruses except for the built-in Windows 11 no, i don't need them
I tried every minimum settings I could to keep the game from turning into a mess, but the fps is very low.
Yes, you can see 80 in places, but is it enough for this computer build?

 

[starinfo]

As I noticed
Problems with performance and drawdown started both for me and for the second user who has AMD 1600x.
At the same time, when a user was added to Intel, his situation with drawdowns was better, not to say that there was none, no.
But at the same time, when I showed 6-20 frames, he had 40.
I believe that this is the lack of optimization itself in the Unity game engine.
Just the workers will solve this problem, and whether they will solve it, and not just leave it as it is, I don’t know.
Then I would like to see in the incentive, and since we are already going to go to the EGS, then and there that the game is made only for Intel processors and no one else

 

[starinfo]

I tried to change the render type from DX11 to volcano and something 3rd, nothing changed dramatically.
The volcano freezes from time to time, it seems like the FPS shows normal, but constant friezes.
Exactly the same behavior with friezes on the volcano, even on the rtx3050.
Well, tcho, we are waiting for an update like a miracle