PC "Open new trade route" quests...

[WarMongerian]

I have some questions, and they are specific to the current build {1.4b8?}, so if folks respond, please note if you responses are from earlier and/or modded versions.

My friend and I are currently playing our first 1.4 game, and I have noticed something I had not seen in earlier builds, namely, we are actually getting something when completing our first "special mission: Open new Trade Route" quests.  For us, this is a first, sorta like how the salvaged cars started flying apart.  We both agree that getting something for opening the new trade route is good, and feels like it was always intended to.  So, some questions:

1)  How exactly does this mission (currently in v1.4b8/unmodded) work?

2)  Does exploring the map and finding a trader, disqualify that specific trader as a destination for such a quest?  In other words, can only "Undiscovered" Traders be selected by this quest mechanizm?

3)  Has anyone done a full playthrough, and 'discovered' all the rest of the traders on the map, only by such quest mechanics?

4)  Is there any reward for doing a playthrough, that only sees new trade route quests discovering new traders?  I'm curious, do these new rewards scale up?  Or are they nothing really special?

In my friends current game, did I shoot myself in the foot, by going out and exploring, and finding 2 of the 4 Trader Joel's, as well as 2 of the 4 Trader Jen's, as well as 2 of the 3 additional Trader Reck guys?  My friends map, has 4 of each of the 5 trader types.  I just wonder what other folks may have discovered in 1.4b8 in regards to now getting rewards on the destination end of an "Open trade route" quest.

 

[theFlu]

How is this a poll? Those are statements of fact.

2) The trader discovery goes through biomes in order, if it fullfills that, it can't choose the same Biome twice => it can't choose the same Trader twice.

 

[YourMirror]

Please stop with the useless polls. Its becoming obsessive. If you have questions, just ask...

 

[WarMongerian]

How is this a poll? Those are statements of fact.

2) The trader discovery goes through biomes in order, if it fullfills that, it can't choose the same Biome twice => it can't choose the same Trader twice.

Ah.  So new trade routes can only be opened in order Pine/Burnt/Desert?Snow/Waste, and once each Biome has been opened up, no further missions of this type will be generated?  Thanks!

Please stop with the useless polls. Its becoming obsessive. If you have questions, just ask...

No.

I like polls, and I like being able to ask folks questions that they can weigh in on.

Did you have any info to share about the subject matter at hand?

 

[Riamus]

Open trade routes have always given rewards, but in the past they were just experience.  Since 1.0 you also get a choice of items.  It's not really a big deal and many people don't even bother with them.  It's only 4 total quests anyhow... one to each trader starting from Rekt as you complete each tier of quests.  Rekt will only give the quest from him to Jen after completing tier 1.  Jen will only give the next quest after completing tier 2 (you don't have to complete it with her, but you have to get the open trade routes quest from her).  Etc.

As far as polls go, you do make a bunch of them and I can see why people get tired of them.  I don't much care either way, but question 1 isn't a valid poll question.  Stick to asking questions as questions.  If you want to make polls, that's up to you.  But leave polls for things that actually let people make choices based on their opinions or how they play or whatever.  A question that just has a single factual answer shouldn't be in a poll.

 

[WarMongerian]

Open trade routes have always given rewards, but in the past they were just experience. 

A question that just has a single factual answer shouldn't be in a poll.

Sorry, I suppose I should have phrased that better, given that you consider 'experience' to be a reward.  I personally don't consider that a reward.  I consider a quest reward to involve getting something (items/loot) for completing the quest, and usually involving making a choice of what is offered.

That being said, question one allows for folks to answer the question being asked, and since I don't know how the OTR quest functions, I ask questions.  Should I not be able to ask questions about things I don't know?  I get that folks may get annoyed, but then, what is forcing them to read/respond to a poll/thread?  Only in the case of someone that is 'required' to read everything posted here, is their room to complain about 'too much' of this or that.

Now, I still have some questions about how all this works...

If I manually explore the whole map, and 'discover' all 20 traders, can I still get the OTR quests when I complete a tier?  Specifically, does the OTR quest work even if I have already been to all the traders before completing a given tier?  I ask this because, I have so far never gone through the quest system past level three quests, I just prefer to go exploring the map, and finding the traders once (when we are on our first playthrough of a given map/world) is enough uncertainty for me, and the rest of the fun is 'doing better' the next game.

 

[Riamus]

Sorry, I suppose I should have phrased that better, given that you consider 'experience' to be a reward.  I personally don't consider that a reward.  I consider a quest reward to involve getting something (items/loot) for completing the quest, and usually involving making a choice of what is offered.

That being said, question one allows for folks to answer the question being asked, and since I don't know how the OTR quest functions, I ask questions.  Should I not be able to ask questions about things I don't know?  I get that folks may get annoyed, but then, what is forcing them to read/respond to a poll/thread?  Only in the case of someone that is 'required' to read everything posted here, is their room to complain about 'too much' of this or that.

Now, I still have some questions about how all this works...

If I manually explore the whole map, and 'discover' all 20 traders, can I still get the OTR quests when I complete a tier?  Specifically, does the OTR quest work even if I have already been to all the traders before completing a given tier?  I ask this because, I have so far never gone through the quest system past level three quests, I just prefer to go exploring the map, and finding the traders once (when we are on our first playthrough of a given map/world) is enough uncertainty for me, and the rest of the fun is 'doing better' the next game.

You can always ask questions.  That is what a post is for.

As far as getting the quests, you can always get them once completing the required tier of quests.  As long as the tier is complete, you can get the corresponding open trade routes quest from the correct trader even if the map is entirely explored and all traders are found.  You could do all tiers from a single trader and then go through and do all open trade route quests one after another if you wanted.

 

[WarMongerian]

You can always ask questions.  That is what a post is for.

As far as getting the quests, you can always get them once completing the required tier of quests.  As long as the tier is complete, you can get the corresponding open trade routes quest from the correct trader even if the map is entirely explored and all traders are found.  You could do all tiers from a single trader and then go through and do all open trade route quests one after another if you wanted.

I was wondering about that, as I seem to dimly recall getting a second OTR quest from Rekt in one game or another.  Thanks for the reply/information. 

 

[Riamus]

I was wondering about that, as I seem to dimly recall getting a second OTR quest from Rekt in one game or another.  Thanks for the reply/information. 

I think it was possible in the past, though I don't remember for sure.  But after they split traders to their own biomes and updated the open trade routes quests, it is now set to only happen once from a given trader in a given game.  Unless you find a big, of course.  I managed to get the first quest from a different trader than Rekt in one game right after the release of 1.0.  That wasn't supposed to happen, though.

 

[8_Hussars]

I like polls, and I like being able to ask folks questions that they can weigh in on.

Did you have any info to share about the subject matter at hand?

Unfortunately, you bias your polls such that they become useless for anything other than ringing your echo chamber.

On to the OP.  As others have said opening trader quests must be done in order from the biome specific traders.  IIRC, they have always provided an XP reward.  If your getting more than that its likely from challenge rewards you claimed in the interim...

 

[Rotor]

Get rid of traders, problems solved. 

Free of charge.

 

[Riamus]

On to the OP.  As others have said opening trader quests must be done in order from the biome specific traders.  IIRC, they have always provided an XP reward.  If your getting more than that its likely from challenge rewards you claimed in the interim...

They provide item rewards since 1.0. 

 

[8_Hussars]

They provide item rewards since 1.0. 

Thanks for the info!  I very rarely do trader quests (I am with Rotor).

Having said that, I am doing them in my current play through and never noticed any extra rewards.  My bad.

(It's a custom map without biome restricted traders. I had the traders located prior to doing the open trade route quests, which was only for the challenges.)

 

[Riamus]

Thanks for the info!  I very rarely do trader quests (I am with Rotor).

Having said that, I am doing them in my current play through and never noticed any extra rewards.  My bad.

It's easy to miss them since regular quests and challenges look the same when getting the reward, so if you have multiple things going at once, you can easily miss that you got a reward from something specific.

 

[ElCabong]

The reward is the new trader and the new city that he/she is living in. By the time you get it if you played the game right you've looted all the mailboxes and book locations in the biome you're in now and need to find a new one. In the next version you're not going to be able to enter them at will you're going to have to build up something that protects you from the environment before you can get into them.