This did happen to Glock9 for violence. He had an opening montage for his current series and was demonetized for violence. The timestamp referred to his opening at the point where he punches Arlene in the face. They demonetized 3 or 4 of his videos for that. I guess screwtube doesn't know the difference between violence against women and violence against zombies. I mean, zombies are people too, right?
PC New YouTube Policy and 7 Days to Die
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theFlu
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Shush. Stop being such a conspiracy nut, that didn't happen. He's just using it for rage bait. Besides, we all know youtube doesn't give specific timestamps on their strikes, so he can't even know what it's actually about.
... Am I doing this right? ... Got under your skin?
Sorry...
Nothing to see here, move along! ...
Vedui
Active member
You have to understand that most of these things are done by algorithms, and those can be tripped for really weird reasons. Even when they say they have "manually reviewed", they actually have not. I have a single video demonetized in my library. Apparently it has "excessive swearing" in it, as confirmed by YouTube's manual review.
Except, it's a 30 second short, where I've gone over it with a finetooth comb, forward and backward, and there's no excessive swearing in it. There's actually no swearing in it at all (It's extremely rare to ever hear my swear, due to my kids watching them).
But despite this, YouTube in their "manual" review finds excessive swearing, where there 100 % is none, nothing even close to it, no aggressive language, nothing that could remotely be taken or mistaken as rude. Now it was a Shorts video where I happened to get killed by zombies, so if they had said "violence" I could have understood it, though peculiar still as it's just a video game, and death in video games doesn't normally cause any issues.
So knowing WHY a video was demonetized is super hard.
I do think people will have to be more careful with the opening bits of their videos, ensure cleaner language, trying to avoid excessive violence... and hope this whole thing blows over.
What I find more weird though is that "all" swearing/curse words are seen as equally bad. "@%$#" and "crap" is now a curse, which I personally would not consider it. The worrying bit is that they'll expand the vocabulary of "cursing" even more, making it very hard to actually describe something "This game runs like @%$#" caused demonetization ... so you'd be saying "This games runs sub-optimal below the acceptable range" or something else, which is dumb.
But that's YT!
Gamida
Hood Ornament
You could check one thing I have seen someone mentioned about a YTer having your problem. It seems that even though there was no swearing in their video the closed caption saw a word wrong. Am not sure of the word now but for an example it would be like if someone said port and the cc thought it was porn. Or the word duck being mistaken for the word...well you know. I can see that happening as I have had cc on sometimes when watching some vids and believe me it is not always right, sometimes not even close. I am guessing that there is not real people reviewing every single video for curse words and that it may somehow be related to how the CC works that some get flagged and then someone will (should) review it.
So TL
R you should watch your video with CC on and see if it mistakes a word for a naughty one.
Jost Amman
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These are the times we live in... AI's that control, check and supervise us, and no matter what mess they do, it's nobody's fault.
Good times.
Good times.
theFlu
Well-known member
There's now lawyers drafting legal documents (I've heard of at least letters and contracts) using chat AIs ... just wait a couple years for the courts to catch up. Judgements-by-AI. You'll be in jail never having met a human; unless you resist, of course, then the flesh-bots show up bashing down your door.
Skynet is coming a bit backwards, but just as effective...
Skynet is coming a bit backwards, but just as effective...
Riamus
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Yeah, but they weren't AI, they were just psychic.
It is funny seeing how badly captions can mess up. Sometimes the incorrect captions are more fun to watch than the video itself. I rarely watch anything on YouTube, so not sure how bad their captions are, but Twitch has some really bad captions at times.
Isn't that all AI is though? It predicts things based on patterns. I guess a "psychic" is revealing things that will happen without outside knowledge, but seeing as how psychics aren't real (yeah, I said it) AI is about as close as it gets.Yeah, but they weren't AI, they were just psychic.
It is funny seeing how badly captions can mess up. Sometimes the incorrect captions are more fun to watch than the video itself. I rarely watch anything on YouTube, so not sure how bad their captions are, but Twitch has some really bad captions at times.
@Roland you joke, but it would NOT surprise me to see groups wanting to use AI to try and predict criminal behavior. It is not out of the realm of possibility.
Roland
Moderator
I just know how the AI changes the traffic lights to red predicting my imminent arrival and trying to entrap me into breaking the law...
Riamus
Well-known member
It does seem like they do that in places, doesn't it? Lol! I do enjoy driving in certain places where they do a good job keeping traffic moving, where the lights all align so as long as you are at the speed limit, you can go a really long way without having to stop if you are on the main drag. Those places are few are far between, though.
Jost Amman
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Gamida
Hood Ornament
Wait? Are you secretly trying to tell us that Crater Creator is an AI and that he took over your SM job by force and is judging us all and going to soon ban us all so he can have complete control of 7 Days?
If this is true don't blink for one hour so we know you are not a hostage.
Gamida
Hood Ornament
I think the community would be better served if the people at YT would watch some George Carlin standup. But then, they would need a sense of humor too.What I find more weird though is that "all" swearing/curse words are seen as equally bad. "@%$#" and "crap" is now a curse, which I personally would not consider it. The worrying bit is that they'll expand the vocabulary of "cursing" even more, making it very hard to actually describe something "This game runs like @%$#" caused demonetization ... so you'd be saying "This games runs sub-optimal below the acceptable range" or something else, which is dumb.
But that's YT!
theFlu
Well-known member
The recent tech layoffs give me some hope for a sensible restructuring, but it would indeed require some interview-activies like watching some good old Carlin, and trying to come up with reasons why the jokes are bad. The one with the least number of complaints getting the job, of course ...I think the community would be better served if the people at YT would watch some George Carlin standup. But then, they would need a sense of humor too.
khzmusik
Well-known member
Already happens.
https://daily.jstor.org/what-happens-when-police-use-ai-to-predict-and-prevent-crime/
(Sorry for the necro post, was searching for Glock9 on the forums and it brought me here.
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Gamida
Hood Ornament
Already happens.
https://daily.jstor.org/what-happens-when-police-use-ai-to-predict-and-prevent-crime/
(Sorry for the necro post, was searching for Glock9 on the forums and it brought me here.
lol not to worry. I just recently necroed a post way older than this (by accident of course
). It happens.