PC new server search function is horrible
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Nope, as I stated: Geographical regions in Internet DO NOT WORK ! Geographical regions >>> ONLY <<<< work for official server that are provided by the game vendor to few predefined regional data centers. For random player installed servers the regional accuracy is around 50%, so basically it is pure guesswork.Telric said:
SylenThunder
Community Moderator / IT Guru
Well lets be at least a little bit realistic.
The entire reason for segregating geographical regions is exactly because of how the global internet works.
For a game like this, you want to connect to a server with the lowest possible ping. You aren't going to get a low ping when your data is having to cross an international trunk line. It has nothing at all to do with "official servers provided by the vendor". They do that purposely so that you will choose a server in your region. By being on a server in your region, you will have a lower ping, and will be more likely to interact with players that speak your own language.
@SylenThunder
I work in IT and this whole GeoIP and the Regions detection is just fantasy.
That is exactly what I am saying: It would be smarter to just use the latency, not this fantasy of "regions". As the "wrong" region might have lower ping. "Where you are located" depends on the network topology and routing and it is often off by hundreds of kilometres of your physical location. And even if it get that right the latency of other Region might actually be lower for you connection. The regions only work when it is not professionally installed data centers. And professional I mean people who know the network topology of international data networks.
I work in IT and this whole GeoIP and the Regions detection is just fantasy.
That is exactly what I am saying: It would be smarter to just use the latency, not this fantasy of "regions". As the "wrong" region might have lower ping. "Where you are located" depends on the network topology and routing and it is often off by hundreds of kilometres of your physical location. And even if it get that right the latency of other Region might actually be lower for you connection. The regions only work when it is not professionally installed data centers. And professional I mean people who know the network topology of international data networks.
Pernicious
New member
It's not that bad. It's 95% to country, and about 75% to city: https://www.arin.net/blog/2018/06/11/ip-geolocation-the-good-the-bad-the-frustrating/ and the game is only trying to identify region.
But is that the real issue anyway? That you're seeing a few French or Chinese servers sneak in? Or your server is being misclassified into the wrong region? Seems like it's just cumbersome to use is the main complaint. Perhaps a way to improve it is to browse to regions only, but as long as you have decently refined filter, (With criteria that don't need to ping thousands of servers to narrow your search), then a search could be allowed across "Any" region.
EdwardSmith
New member
i must ask what on earth is even the point of this new browser? its worse in literaly every way
Pernicious
New member
I thought I saw one of the mods say it was part of joining Game Pass. It was a vague cross reference, so don't take my word for it.
Realistically, TFP probably doesn't even know that this is a problem. They are so detached from anything having to do with multiplayer that they probably don't really even care. Heck, if this gets people more frustrated with multiplayer and causes less people to play, then GOOD. That's less people to be here on the forums complaining about multiplayer problems.
pApA^LeGBa
Well-known member
You couldn´t be more wrong actually. They do have people working on the netcode to make the multiplayer experience better for servers that go way over the offically supported 8 player limit.
Multiplayer is popular in this game. They advertised it as multiplayer aswell. And if you have friends who play it, you will never go back to SP. It´s just utterly boring once you experienced MP with your friends.
Just wish people would stop assuming that their way to play is the only one that matters. How do you stop people from complaining about things that are none of their business?
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Pernicious
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1. Find the IP address of your two favourite servers
2. Edit your hosts file and add the lines:
1.2.3 4 fav1
5.6.7.8 fav2
Where 1.2 3.4 is the server's IP, and fav1 is any short name you like.
Now any time you want to join that server, just direct connect and type in fav1 or fav2 and forget searching.
I am currently on a phone so if you need more detailed info, I can return tomorrow to provide it.
pApA^LeGBa
Well-known member
@Pernicious You mean joining via Steam favorites i guess? Because ingame you have to do a search first. The search mask is the first thing that pops up if you click "Join game" and if you have servers in different regions, you gotta remember to pick the right region to see it in your list.
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pApA^LeGBa
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@Gamida I see a few below 100. They are constantly changing though. Like my own rented server, those under 100, go back and forth between 60 and 100. Region is Europe.
And since when do you need to click on a server to see it´s ping? Is this also new or did i just never know about that?
And since when do you need to click on a server to see it´s ping? Is this also new or did i just never know about that?
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Gamida
Hood Ornament
I think the lowest I have seen since the change is 133 and I know I use to see tons of them way lower than that. My first page would usually be below 100 if I clicked the ping icon to filter them low to high.
Yeah I noticed to that I pretty much have to click each server in the list or the ping doesn't show.
infamoustimo
New member
having issues right now loading my friends American East Coast version - it displays the count of the server but doesn't display the actual server. I change it to Europe servers and it displays... seems like the whole region thing is broken.. and now i can't play... thanks!
stuck on create character screen on loadup.infamoustimo said:
Seriously? where are the pitchforks and torches at? this thing is utter @%$#.. I have North American East or West English and the entire first page is spammed by Chinese servers running a suspect server at 500 ping? I cant even see my favorites anymore.
oh and in before the have you tried putting region North america east/west and English crowd.. yea i have i have tried everything and all i see is servers i shouldnt be seeing because they are NOT NA east or west or ENGLISH.
oh and in before the have you tried putting region North america east/west and English crowd.. yea i have i have tried everything and all i see is servers i shouldnt be seeing because they are NOT NA east or west or ENGLISH.
There are threads, the pitchforks have been out. Moderators have responded but nobody really cares what a moderator's opinion is on the matter. I haven't seen anything from anyone who matters, like a dev. There will probably have to be 10 or so new threads created before there's any acknowledgement. I think we are only up to 3 or so now.
Also, please leave the bottom right of this response open for Kuosimodo to leave a dislke.
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