PC Nerf how many bullets you get in every gun you find

I'm not dictating how anyone else must play.
No, none who ask for nerfs that will affect a playstyle they do not use intend to to

dictate how others play. It is quite possible true as well.

I think those who do only think about themself and don't give much thought about

other players at all.

Reducing the amount of ammunition for guns do not make the game better for anyone.

- It does not affect those who prefer feather based weaponry or melee.

- It does make it more taxing on those who prefer guns and turrets.

- Intended or not, it is like saying one should not use guns.

Who will benefit from this supposed nerf?

 
The big deal is you cant make most ammo types for a long time as you need to find calipers for bullet casings.
Lol, calipers haven't been in the game since A15. That's quite a while. I reckon you got so used to thinking about calipers over time that they are still stuck in your head. I remember the days of finding the first set and the following feeling of "**** YEAH!"

In A16.4, I found them early, opened up a chest and found TWO in the same chest. Jaw dropped, ammo fell from the heavens, women gushed over me, the government started paying me taxes...

 
Lol, calipers haven't been in the game since A15. That's quite a while. I reckon you got so used to thinking about calipers over time that they are still stuck in your head. I remember the days of finding the first set and the following feeling of "**** YEAH!"
In A16.4, I found them early, opened up a chest and found TWO in the same chest. Jaw dropped, ammo fell from the heavens, women gushed over me, the government started paying me taxes...
That's right, its the Tool and Die set. In A17 I found mine at the water works I believe it was called. Its got to be a tier 3 POI, I was only around level 50 and I was getting several radiated... But I lived and found one, it would have been just as easy to not find one too.

 
Not going to lie here, but I find it amusing that anytime even hints at making something more challenging the lot of you come out with your pitchforks and you start storming castles, but you sure will complain about digging zombies and staminas.

Maybe MadMole has a point. Go play creative while the Pimps try to make an ACTUAL survival game.

I am dreading this update. The statement focuses on all the wrong things. Pretty sure I'm about to be done with all of this.

 
No, none who ask for nerfs that will affect a playstyle they do not use intend to to dictate how others play. It is quite possible true as well.

I think those who do only think about themself and don't give much thought about

other players at all.

Reducing the amount of ammunition for guns do not make the game better for anyone.

- It does not affect those who prefer feather based weaponry or melee.

- It does make it more taxing on those who prefer guns and turrets.

- Intended or not, it is like saying one should not use guns.

Who will benefit from this supposed nerf?
Everyone who wants a more rich survival aspect?

You are full on cynic here. That nerf affects me as well, Im just not as trigger happy as you.

Its a play style to not manage your bullets? But that's called just being bad at the game in my book, its a survival game like I keep saying the entire point of the nerf is to actually make the perk for crafting bullets valuable.

In my personal experience this really only applies to 9mm ammunition,
.9mm and standard shotgun shell, if hunting rifle came with more than a single show you would have an abundance of .762 also.

One screamer armageddon you can spend over 5000 Bullets.
If its too easy for you raise the difficulty, cant be that other need to mod the game because you denie to set a lower allready implemented option.
I always play on harder difficulties already, I thought you understood that from my earlier post.

5000 bullets? What? Do you not know how to sneak up on the screamer and kill it silently so it can't scream? Or did they change how screamers work? (I did hear the screamers can spawn more screamers, or is that only incidental and its really heat value sending more but you think its the horde summon? )

Also 5000 bullets, What? do you miss 80% of your shots? 95%? I don't need that many to deal with horde nights lol. I'm sorry that number seems very unrealistic unless you have turrets guzzling them down.

The big deal is you cant make most ammo types for a long time as you need to find calipers for bullet casings. Which leaves shotgun to save the day. Even then I cant make enough shotgun shells as I don't find deposits of everything I need early game.
Boulders are OP for all resource types. Try farming them, you'll have plenty to make bullets. (I actually thought they would nerf boulders they are so OP)

They tend to show up for me around the end of week two, so I'd say it's about right to have a bit of ammo by then. I'd be more inclined to agree with your nerf if making gunpowder yourself wasn't such a tedious process (unless you luck out with an early auger).
Farm Boulders, you don't need an augur.I'm doing fine with a 1-handed pick.

While I do agree that there is an extremely large amount of bird nests and they aren't even found in trees where you normally would, I suspect this is mainly there to circumvent that all we can really afford to eat early game by cooking is a boiled egg.

We could use something to make arrows cost more feathers, maybe 2? How about 4?

Maybe make stone arrows cost 1.

Iron cost 2

and Steel cost 4

There you won't have a feather deposit I currently have 5 stacks of feathers and a few stacks of arrows, but you're right, however it takes so many head shots even with steel arrows so you're making 3 times as many since they used to single head shot kill.

Not going to lie here, but I find it amusing that anytime even hints at making something more challenging the lot of you come out with your pitchforks and you start storming castles, but you sure will complain about digging zombies and staminas.
Pretty much I think this is the forum-herd mentality going on here.

I actually think the stam softcap is too fast but they're addressing that issue with 150% eating.

 
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I'm thinking they just need to remove ammo from the car's loot table. I find at least half of my ammo in cars.

 
I'd be down for more bullets, less guns, and better headshot damage, countered by a 10x increase in biome spawns with a shorter delay.

 
Yes its really sometimes a bit much

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5000 bullets? What? Do you not know how to sneak up on the screamer and kill it silently so it can't scream? Or did they change how screamers work? (I did hear the screamers can spawn more screamers, or is that only incidental and its really heat value sending more but you think its the horde summon? )

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The whole day the same situation

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not really unprovoket, but if they want me to play "Call of Zombie" then i demand enough ammo.

And by the way, it is no survival game.

A real survival game would obligate "Death is Death"

 
I'd be down for more bullets, less guns, and better headshot damage, countered by a 10x increase in biome spawns with a shorter delay.

I'd be down for 1-2 head shot kills and very little damage done for any other location.

Yup on less guns even though all the mechanical parts I get scraping them is my new addiction. :)

 
The whole day the same situation
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not really unprovoket, but if they want me to play "Call of Zombie" then i demand enough ammo.

And by the way, it is no survival game.

A real survival game would obligate "Death is Death"
You're right, the amount of irradiated ferals is very excessive there; have you tried investing in combustible or explosive weapons? Perhaps a few of those will help thin the herd out a bit so you can pick off stragglers.

I'm just speaking from an early game point of view, you're on day 32 so you're at a later stage of difficulty progression.

Death should Death. I die I usually delete my save unless I died to the game cheesing me , TFP could add in a hardcore mode function where death is permanent.

 
It would make sense to me that the guns are more often empty than not when found. If the amount of bullets is lowered from the guns we find, I think it would only be fair to up the amount of bullets we find in the game in general to compensate since I feel we are already in the right ballpark for the total quantity of bullets found.

 
We start you with a purple pistol and 250 rounds on my server ...

...not near enough, considering the other changes...

It's all about balance. If you give, you must take.

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We start you with a purple pistol and 250 rounds on my server ...
...not near enough, considering the other changes...

It's all about balance. If you give, you must take.
How does one get on your server Guppy? Discord required? Password I assume?

 
Yes its really sometimes a bit much
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Wow that's a lot of silver/gold and diamonds. Especially with what appears to be the starter quest and gear in your hotbar? You haven't ever crafted a bedroll?

Me suspects creative menu use for that screenie. Still even have the noob starting weather protection icon up there.

 
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