PC NEGATIVITY... Yikes!

[Hazeree]

I have concerns about the direction as well. But thankfully, I will wait and see. I am counting on the fact that if something is really bad, someone will make a mod for it. I already plan to edit xml files day one. I do not think people realize the impact of no gore blocks enough. Or maybe I am the only person who values glue mid-to-late game? Regardless, its not enough to get all doom and gloom.

But to add to the OP thought: The negativity I am getting sick of is the "I didnt pay for this, I want my money back". If you played the game for more than 50 hours, you got more from it than most finished games. You dont go to a buffet and eat 4 plates to then say you want your money back. This pre-release thing actually gives you 10 games in one. Its not like you can return games to the store after a year and expect a full refund.

 

[meganoth]

It beats the alternative, you know?
Every time that has happened and a potential feature (aka iron-clad promise) didn't make it the hurt feelings were ginormous.

I know. But has the general situation really improved now? "This was promised" posts have been replaced by "is that all?/they tell us nothing/1 year is too long" and worse accusations. And I don't get the impression that there are much less aggressive posts compared to A15 (highly subjective, you seem to think it got better). Grumpy posters always find something to be hurt about.

Maybe the hurt feelings came about because the dropped features didn't get the same importance as news as new features. Imagine you had put out a monthly or bi-monthly "newsletter/news video" where you listed and discussed all features you were working on at the moment. And you also list all features that were recently dropped because of problems (which you explain in detail). And all of these features got put on a permanent info page. Sure, there would still be people whining about some specific feature that got dropped, but many would be educated on how development really works. And they would get the message that their dropped feature is just one of 30 that got dropped, i.e. not that important in the grand scheme of things.

And naturally your reasons to drop would be dissected and discussed. But again, this will be done anyway. If you don't give reasons, the real reasons are just replaced with assumed reasons and accusations or endless questions.

Ok, I don't know if the "promise" situation would be really better with such a scheme. But it would definitely improve the situation for the 90% of mostly silent forum users that just look for information instead of a vent for their frustration. As it is now you caved in to a minority of "socially challenged" and uninformed users.

 

[Jedo]

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I can see it both ways. It is a truism that our minds will fill the blanks of the unknown, and usually we fill it with the worst possible scenario that we can imagine. Is that worse than misinterpretation (like has happened with Roland's information emails to the streamers)? Hard to say.

 

[Scyris]

A lot of user feedback has been taken from the forums over the years but in such a case it would be incorporated into the design, not some change applied on a whim. And it may well be taken out later when it doesn't live up to expectations.
Personally I have a very thick skin so I'm okay with reading the forum and ignoring the self-entitled demands, game over predictions, and enthusiastic (but not well thought-out =) feature suggestions.

In many cases it is obvious that the person has no idea of how A Game works.

Why don't you just make it so that... no.

But what if you just... no.

But it would be so easy to... no.

That's not how it works.

I do look at alot of the stuff modders have done with A16 and wonder why the devs didn't think of that. I mean other than for the performance hurting aspects of modding. Like putting in silencers in a mod, it replaces the guns barrel that was genius imo. Lots of other small changes that improve it.

 

[Guppycur]

I strongly disagree with your speculation that the devs didn't think of "that".

...they're not retarded, and just because something hits a mod first doesn't mean they weren't already planning it.