A Nice Cup of Tea
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Yeah, I can agree with that.
PC My Thoughts After Playing Alpha 17. Yes I said Alpha 17!
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Guppycur
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Rewards should be available from a variety of methods, so that the player isn't shoe horned into a specific type of gameplay.
In medi, you can unlock things via books, quests, or points. I find it extremely fun, because I generally ignore quests... And another thing we do is front load 99% of the quests, so that you don't have to make a SECOND club just to continue your quest chain. You end up finishing quests without even trying... Very organic flow.
Quest chains only make sense when they accomplish a goal (gather fibers, gather wood, stone, make a stone axe), not to finish a "group" (gotta wait to make a campfire until the quest says I can because I'm retarded).
Just my 2 cents.
In medi, you can unlock things via books, quests, or points. I find it extremely fun, because I generally ignore quests... And another thing we do is front load 99% of the quests, so that you don't have to make a SECOND club just to continue your quest chain. You end up finishing quests without even trying... Very organic flow.
Quest chains only make sense when they accomplish a goal (gather fibers, gather wood, stone, make a stone axe), not to finish a "group" (gotta wait to make a campfire until the quest says I can because I'm retarded).
Just my 2 cents.
CallMeRui
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Huge fan of the updated AI. I can't wait for there to be no more circle zeds!
However, I am worried that the AI will be too good, for example, on a blood moon they will automatically know straight away how to get to the player.
Smash door A > Run > Smash door B > Upstairs > Player. Hopefully they'll still be zombies, not mutant superhumans!
(Please go through the layers of spikes and walls I have put up!)
However, I am worried that the AI will be too good, for example, on a blood moon they will automatically know straight away how to get to the player.
Smash door A > Run > Smash door B > Upstairs > Player. Hopefully they'll still be zombies, not mutant superhumans!
(Please go through the layers of spikes and walls I have put up!)
Roland
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faatal has said that randomization of their behavior (or at least percent chances of doing different behaviors than expected) will be added in as things develop. As of now the answer is that yes, they know exactly how to reach you. Sit on the roof of a house and ferals will run through the house to the best spot to break a hole in the wall so they can step out onto the roof and run over to kill you. With this greater ability on their part to find the path to eat your brain comes perfect predictability which can be exploited. Remove a critical block and they will all run to follow the new next best pathway. Replace the block and they'll all run back to the original best pathway.
In the future faatal will work in some unpredictability to mess with us but for now they are all super smart engineers but super dumb single minded path followers.
It will be fun to adapt to and extremely different to what we are used to. Even though it isn't ideal it is a great beginning and will be loads of fun.
Roland
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It wasn't hooked up until recently. There are some very cool surprises in store regarding the skill/perk/attribute system. I can say that there are some aspects of it that are "gain advancement by doing" and others that are "gain advancement by paying xp". The UI has been improved and the skills and perks have been reorganized based upon the attribute they're linked to.
I know that agility is going to be a popular attribute to progress due to it affecting stamina but I bet strength might compete for being the fan favorite for a reason that is as yet unrevealed...
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Roland
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In A17 we all start at level 1 in each attribute. I kind of doubt that will change because the developers tend to want to allow players to define their own differentiation through gameplay rather than pre-define it before starting. But I confess I don't know what their final plan will be for this.Given that we now have Attributes, Are we all starting at the same level or is there now some character creation? ie roll a handful of D20
zombie4hire
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I am looking forward to the new AI more and more.
Scyris
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Calling it now, Str will up inv size.
As well as up melee damage most likely. I just hope inv doesn't START smaller than in A16. Or at least str upping inventory size is my guess as to why its a canditate for fan favorite.- - - Updated - - -
Reminds me of Oblivion, you pick starting stats, but how they raise after is linked to what skills you level.
RestInPieces
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Even if rpgs are my favorite genre, the biggest of my concerns for this game is that rpg elements are being implemented at the expense of survival/realism. Can you reveal anything about how attributes are tried with death or the debuff/buff system, or compare it with what we have right now and wellness?
As for the inventory, I am a pack rat myself, but would rather see the player start with a very small inventory which he will be able to upgrade with perks or containers (similarly to NEO scavenger). I personally enjoy choosing what to loot instead of spamming "take all" (like I do now), at least until I have the luxury to do so through progression.
Roland
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I’m not sure what all is entailed penalty-wise when dying. I know that it is possible to make dying much more punishing than it has been. Will they do that for the vanilla game? I don’t know.
Maybe once Joel starts doing gameplay vids we’ll get to witness it a few times...heheh
Maybe once Joel starts doing gameplay vids we’ll get to witness it a few times...heheh
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I think you're on the money. But I'd wager that inventory size will be smaller initially, in order to put more motivation into boosting the strength attribute.Calling it now, Str will up inv size.
It'd be sensible if abilities with cloth and leather also influenced inventory size.
