PC Microstuttering

[Fox]

I'd think that exchange would make...well, just about anybody conclude that you (at least once) made a claim that windows 7 performed better in games. layful:

I was referring only to stability, hence why I clarified with the additional post.

 

[Vomkat]

I have 'microstuttering' that causes entire computer to freeze up, 7 Days to Die suddenly consumes up to 100% of hard drive and memory and has to be ctrl-alt-delete restarted. It looks like a memory leak to me.

 

[Fox]

I have 'microstuttering' that causes entire computer to freeze up, 7 Days to Die suddenly consumes up to 100% of hard drive and memory and has to be ctrl-alt-delete restarted. It looks like a memory leak to me.

That's an interesting new one. You sure it fits in the micro-stuttering category, or do you think it'd be more like a game meltdown sort of category? Cuz I think maybe this one might deserve a topic of it's own to really dig deep into it.

Is this the one you're referring to? https://7daystodie.com/forums/showthread.php?109581-is-there-a-memory-leak

I actually think you answered your own question as regular hard drives can occasionally cause lag spikes (as world chunks load or save), and running out of memory can cause lockups / crashes. That wouldn't necessarily be the game's fault as you just didn't meet the system requirements.

 

[Tin]

Just for clarification, I never once made a claim that Windows 7 performed better in games, at least not fps-wise or w/e, I just think Windows 7 is better in every other way. Better / simpler interface (and not touchscreen icon nonsense), much less spy junk (none if "custom"), generally better support with games (in terms of stability), though I imagine that won't last much longer, easier to troubleshoot (as with all older OS due to familiarity), no updates to delete your personal files or even forced updates and restarts to get in the way of your life at all.
Life is just easier / better with Windows 7 compared to Windows 10. I'm not saying Windows 7 is the best, as I do actually hate Windows 7, but it's currently better than any alternatives. That's why (last I checked) 54% of the population still uses Windows 7. The only advantage Windows 10 has over 7 is DirectX 12 which no one cares about and the fact that most ppl got it for free. Windows updates are dumb, especially daily, weekly and even monthly updates. When you install Windows, install all available updates to the current, then disable future updates completely for at least a year. ppl are so paranoid about hackers and stuff that they fall for this daily update nonsense as if the world revolves around them and by not updating, they're putting themselves at risk. I have no anti-virus or firewall or anything of that sort running in the background of any of my 3 computers, running an outdated Windows 7, and haven't received a virus I couldn't deal with without wiping the system or anything of that sort in many years (and when it does happen, everything is backed up and reloaded within the day as if nothing bad happened at all). And yes, I do a lot of risky stuff on the daily just like anyone else.

Once I lose driver support for Windows 7, then I'll switch to a different OS, maybe I'll try Linux for a while. Until then, I'm sticking with it.

Anyone see the video F. Updates - Endless Jess? I won't post the link as it'd likely break forum rules due to language used, but that's pretty much the level of anger I would have if I had to use Windows 10.

Now, it'd be really nice if ppl could stay on topic for once.

hehe, I use win10 and I like it overall, but the pit falls are glaring in a lot of areas.

What is really a big punch in the nether regions, is that the stupid micro updates, get held and take up resources without you realizing it, till everything starts to run in a unstable manner; Mostly it reviels itself when playing games, or running software, that require a lot of resources.

A few of the side effects are micro stutters

*Not to be confused with the games micro stutters, because it does have those all on it's own, but some of it I can see attributing to some of it.*

dropping out of the program directly to desktop,

or just rebooting.

Which means you need to force it to update all at once, when that start to happen. Heh don't get me started on their DL speeds, when doing that either

But, once you do get everything cleared out of the que, it runs silky smooth.. at least for me.

 

[DUST2DEATH]

I have 'microstuttering' that causes entire computer to freeze up, 7 Days to Die suddenly consumes up to 100% of hard drive and memory and has to be ctrl-alt-delete restarted. It looks like a memory leak to me.

Specs and settings?

 

[Vomkat]

Happens even with low graphics settings, even when not in game but only in the menu. Happens only with this game, and only since the update.

 

[Fox]

Happens even with low graphics settings, even when not in game but only in the menu. Happens only with this game, and only since the update.

Are you going to answer our question in any of the 2 topics you posted in?

 

[kamelophagous]

Another aficionado of Win 7 here. I upgraded to Win 10 and persevered for a few weeks then binned it. [well, put the installer on the shelf for the unhappy day that I literally have no choice].

It's not the games run better on Win 7, its that Win 10 is so bloody annoying in every freakin way. Nothing is simple. Nothing is intuitive. So much spyware. So much bloatware. Update apocalypse every other day.

I hates it I do. Hates it my precious...

 

[Asuzu]

Another aficionado of Win 7 here. I upgraded to Win 10 and persevered for a few weeks then binned it. [well, put the installer on the shelf for the unhappy day that I literally have no choice].
It's not the games run better on Win 7, its that Win 10 is so bloody annoying in every freakin way. Nothing is simple. Nothing is intuitive. So much spyware. So much bloatware. Update apocalypse every other day.

I hates it I do. Hates it my precious...

Yes, default installation of Win10, especially the ones coming pre-installed on branded hardware, e.g. ASUS ROG or Alienware/etc, are extremely bloated with marketing software.

Not to mention that Win10 itself is basically a mobile OS, trying to turn your PC into a cellphone.

Takes me, knowing the most hotspots on the system, about 2 hours to clean up all bloatware, fix the system services allowed to load, disable background cellular apps, enable game mode, etc etc etc

I can only recommend to Google for topics how to optimize Windows 10 for gaming instead of being a cellphone slugfiesta.

 

[The_Great_Sephiroth]

haha, your kidding right? Windows 10 is the best OS yet and 7 isn't even supported anymore which in itself will make it worse.

You do realize that Windows 7 is supported until 2020, and that they offer paid support for years after, right? In other words, you haven't a clue about that which you speak of. The current early end date is in 2023. Please do not offer bad advice. Windows 10 is FAR worse (look at the issues from last year alone, such as users losing all of their files because 10 thought they needed to go, or BSODs for no reason, patches pulled, applied, and pulled again) and a simple Google search would show that. I won't even enter my personal experience as an IT pro into this equation because a basic search says far more than I can.

Also, are people still trying crazy things to fix this issue? I thought they'd have fixed their setups by now. Still no issues, but for fun I reinstalled from scratch to see what would happen. After reinstalling I did these things in this order.

• Started the game launcher, disabled EAC, set exclusive fullscreen, saved and ran game
  
• Set resolution to 2560x1440, all options maxed, v-sync on
  
• Created profile, started single-player game (Navezgane)
  
• G-Sync was not working once I started and I had micro-stutter as described here
  
• Exited game, opened regedit, deleted "Screenmanager Is Fullscreen mode_h3981298716"
  
• Started again, loaded into game, G-Sync is now working, good framerate, no stutter
  

Each and every time you go into the in-game options, even if it is just to "check" something, Unity creates that damn registry key and everything breaks again. As before, my advice is to go in-game, setup everything how you want it, exit the game, delete the key, and then start and play. If that does not fix it or if you run in fake fullscreen, I do not know what to tell you.

Takes me, knowing the most hotspots on the system, about 2 hours to clean up all bloatware, fix the system services allowed to load, disable background cellular apps, enable game mode, etc etc etc

I laughed at this. Windows 10 sucks, but in all my years working in the field I have never seen such nonsense. Windows 10 does NOT try to act like a cellphone. It has a wireless service for Wi-Fi which is set to automatic by default, but it does not deal with 4G connections. Disabling most services in 10 also causes major back-end issues, which is simply making 10 look worse. Also, there is no bloatware in 10, unless you're talking about a prebuilt HP/Gateway/whatever. However, 10 does have black boxes which monitor every thing you do to send data back to Microsoft. These are built into the kernel, the system libraries, and other things which can NOT be disabled.

Let me guess, you download some programs to do this "two hour optimization"?

 

[Jackelmyer]

You do realize that Windows 7 is supported until 2020, and that they offer paid support for years after, right? In other words, you haven't a clue about that which you speak of. The current early end date is in 2023. Please do not offer bad advice. Windows 10 is FAR worse (look at the issues from last year alone, such as users losing all of their files because 10 thought they needed to go, or BSODs for no reason, patches pulled, applied, and pulled again) and a simple Google search would show that. I won't even enter my personal experience as an IT pro into this equation because a basic search says far more than I can.
Also, are people still trying crazy things to fix this issue? I thought they'd have fixed their setups by now. Still no issues, but for fun I reinstalled from scratch to see what would happen. After reinstalling I did these things in this order.

• Started the game launcher, disabled EAC, set exclusive fullscreen, saved and ran game
  
• Set resolution to 2560x1440, all options maxed, v-sync on
  
• Created profile, started single-player game (Navezgane)
  
• G-Sync was not working once I started and I had micro-stutter as described here
  
• Exited game, opened regedit, deleted "Screenmanager Is Fullscreen mode_h3981298716"
  
• Started again, loaded into game, G-Sync is now working, good framerate, no stutter
  

Each and every time you go into the in-game options, even if it is just to "check" something, Unity creates that damn registry key and everything breaks again. As before, my advice is to go in-game, setup everything how you want it, exit the game, delete the key, and then start and play. If that does not fix it or if you run in fake fullscreen, I do not know what to tell you.

I laughed at this. Windows 10 sucks, but in all my years working in the field I have never seen such nonsense. Windows 10 does NOT try to act like a cellphone. It has a wireless service for Wi-Fi which is set to automatic by default, but it does not deal with 4G connections. Disabling most services in 10 also causes major back-end issues, which is simply making 10 look worse. Also, there is no bloatware in 10, unless you're talking about a prebuilt HP/Gateway/whatever. However, 10 does have black boxes which monitor every thing you do to send data back to Microsoft. These are built into the kernel, the system libraries, and other things which can NOT be disabled.

Let me guess, you download some programs to do this "two hour optimization"?

Hey I haven't seen that regedit fix. Can you pass me the full key path please?

Edit. Nevermind. Found it.

Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\The Fun Pimps\7 Days To Die

 

[mr.natural]

Another aficionado of Win 7 here. I upgraded to Win 10 and persevered for a few weeks then binned it. [well, put the installer on the shelf for the unhappy day that I literally have no choice].
It's not the games run better on Win 7, its that Win 10 is so bloody annoying in every freakin way. Nothing is simple. Nothing is intuitive. So much spyware. So much bloatware. Update apocalypse every other day.

I hates it I do. Hates it my precious...

Change Execution policy to allow a debloat script to run in Powershell Set-ExecutionPolicy Unrestricted

Run the script from the following Github Repository.

Use Windows10Debloater.ps1 from the location below

(Source: https://github.com/Sycnex/Windows10Debloater)

 

[reweini]

General bad FPS and serious frame pauses are not Micro-Stutter. V-Sync will not fix this problem. This thread is about Micro-Stutter or poor frame pacing. The problem you are having is not Micro-Stutter. For the love of all that is just, please stop posting about things that are not the subject matter of this thread in here. Make a new thread if feel you must continue discussing your problem. Which is not Micro-stutter.

 

[Crater Creator]

General bad FPS and serious frame pauses are not Micro-Stutter. V-Sync will not fix this problem. This thread is about Micro-Stutter or poor frame pacing. The problem you are having is not Micro-Stutter. For the love of all that is just, please stop posting about things that are not the subject matter of this thread in here. Make a new thread if feel you must continue discussing your problem. Which is not Micro-stutter.

Welcome to the forum. If you didn't notice, people were already done posting in this thread, back in February. You're right about one thing, though: users can make a new thread if desired instead of grave digging this old one.

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