PC Just writing a post so it is known there still interest in waiting for console updates. Yes I have read forums
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BFT2020
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They are not responsible for updating the console version that they did not produce. They were not responsible when TellTale games produced the game, they are not responsible after they purchase the rights back.
Just because a company has intellectual rights to a product doesn’t make them responsible for producing or updating said product.
Just because a company has intellectual rights to a product doesn’t make them responsible for producing or updating said product.
BFT2020
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If I own a patent to something I design, I can produce a product based off of my design and sell the rights to Company A who can now take my design and produce their own product based off of my work. Company A goes bankrupt; and I go to court to get the rights to my patent back (in the process, spending my money to purchase it back since it is considered an asset and the court will want value for it to give to Company A's debtors). Now I have the rights back to my patent and free to license it to another company.
However, I am not required to produce anything (or even support anything) that was made by Company A. Any products, support, or warranties that was done between Company A and the consumer are only the responsibility of Company A. Since I did not have any responsibility of producing or supporting the product made by Company A while they were solvent, I do not take over the responsibility of their work should they go bankrupt just because I purchased my intellectual property back.
In this case, TTG purchase the publisher rights to take TFP PC game and port it to the consoles. They (TTG) contracted Iron Galaxy to do the work. TTG was the only company required at this point to support and update the game as necessary. TFP did not support the console game as they are not a console game developer. Through the licensing agreement with TFP, TTG could take future updates made by TFP to the PC version and contract Iron Galaxy to update the console version. TFP bought back the rights to their intellectual property through bankruptcy court so that they are the only entity that has the current and future rights to the 7D2D property; but that did not transfer any responsibilities that TTG had to TFP.
While I did not go to business school like you did, I did become an engineer, a profession where intellectual property is a huge part of what we do. From my education and training with the various companies I have worked for, I have learned how to obtain these rights, when these rights are actually owned by the company and when I own them, what I (and companies that own rights I developed for them) can do with these rights, and what responsibilities I have with these rights. Throw in an understanding of Bankruptcy law and how that affects intellectual property / license agreements; and I have a deep understanding of everything TFP had to do behind the scenes when TTG went bankrupt just to get their intellectual rights back.
But believe whatever you want to believe, since you went to a business school and started a business. Me, I am just someone out there on the net, a person that has been an engineer for the past 20+ years working for companies that develop and patent new properties, currently working for a company that obtains over 1k new patents a year.
However, I am not required to produce anything (or even support anything) that was made by Company A. Any products, support, or warranties that was done between Company A and the consumer are only the responsibility of Company A. Since I did not have any responsibility of producing or supporting the product made by Company A while they were solvent, I do not take over the responsibility of their work should they go bankrupt just because I purchased my intellectual property back.
In this case, TTG purchase the publisher rights to take TFP PC game and port it to the consoles. They (TTG) contracted Iron Galaxy to do the work. TTG was the only company required at this point to support and update the game as necessary. TFP did not support the console game as they are not a console game developer. Through the licensing agreement with TFP, TTG could take future updates made by TFP to the PC version and contract Iron Galaxy to update the console version. TFP bought back the rights to their intellectual property through bankruptcy court so that they are the only entity that has the current and future rights to the 7D2D property; but that did not transfer any responsibilities that TTG had to TFP.
While I did not go to business school like you did, I did become an engineer, a profession where intellectual property is a huge part of what we do. From my education and training with the various companies I have worked for, I have learned how to obtain these rights, when these rights are actually owned by the company and when I own them, what I (and companies that own rights I developed for them) can do with these rights, and what responsibilities I have with these rights. Throw in an understanding of Bankruptcy law and how that affects intellectual property / license agreements; and I have a deep understanding of everything TFP had to do behind the scenes when TTG went bankrupt just to get their intellectual rights back.
But believe whatever you want to believe, since you went to a business school and started a business. Me, I am just someone out there on the net, a person that has been an engineer for the past 20+ years working for companies that develop and patent new properties, currently working for a company that obtains over 1k new patents a year.
BigWolfGaming
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Hey TFP you said nearly a year ago once you went gold in sales you'd look at attempting to fix console versions, as I can tell you went Platinum yet we're still waiting...? I mean at this point I just want a refund for Xbox and PS4 versions cos over a dozen times now my game has been corrupted now and I'm sick of it
Also there won't be a fix to the existing console versions. Those are finished products of a company that no longer exists.
How many hours have you played the game? If less than a few hours, just ask the store to take it back just like you would do with anything else you bought.
How many hours have you played the game? If less than a few hours, just ask the store to take it back just like you would do with anything else you bought.
BigWolfGaming
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That wasn't made clear in any posts and nowhere online have I found a reference to "going gold" meaning anything other than sales and as for hours, 100s, per corrupt game, will a fully working version of 7 days ever come to Xbox One or PS4? Cos PS5 and Xbox Series are not worth their sale price just for a brand 
That wasn't made clear in any posts and nowhere online have I found a reference to "going gold" meaning anything other than sales and as for hours, 100s, per corrupt game, will a fully working version of 7 days ever come to Xbox One or PS4? Cos PS5 and Xbox Series are not worth their sale price just for a brand
On a google search for "going gold" the first 6 links talk about game going gold meaning finishing, the 7th link is about a movie of that name and finally the 8th link talks about music and your interpretation. So I respectfully but very much doubt you really did a search
Just convince Microsoft that you played a broken game for 100s of hours and you surely will get back your money.
What happens in say 1-3 years when 7D2D is released on PC is up to the publisher who takes up the task to port the then finished PC game to console. It will be fully his decision for what console platforms he will make a port. The chance that that unknown publisher will then port to an old console generation is just not very high.
Darklink860
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is there ever going to be an update for colsole..im a fan of the game and play frequently on console and just want a better experience in the game..i know many other gamers who love console but are disappointed because the game lacks in what pc has..it would benefit you guys greatly if you made the decision to further update 7days to die on console
BigWolfGaming
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In fairness as I've only ever heard of "going gold" in the sales sense I did specify sales in my search 
but I do like to learn new things so thank you for letting me know this new meaning for the term, also I have a minor case of A.D.D. so I rarely look past the first page which likely doesn't help my case but hey ho lol.
As for Microsoft they've been about as helpful a chocolate fireguard there
same with Sony so I doubt I'll see the money again but eh shizzle happens.
I am working on building a PC that can handle things like 7D2D and I do look forward to enjoying the PC version, honestly a Walking Dead Minecraft with decent graphics is one of my dream games so I'm happy knowing the PC version works properly at least.
Also apologies if I made it sound otherwise but I do not hold TFP responsible for the console version and it's shortcomings, I understand Telltale screwed everyone over there, however what with them being a non entity now, I had to ask someone what was going on with the console version if only to make my mum happy (her last corrupt game literally deleted her whole house after the game crashing)
So thank you for giving me a heads up and explaining what I'd misunderstood in the post from last year, also it's nice to see a company respond as quickly as you have to all of these, the last game I had questions like this about I waited 2 years for a response on forums before the game and site closed down (it was an old PC MMO called Grand Chase) so I do appreciate the Flash responses, hope you all have a great day/night depending where in the world you're at!
but I do like to learn new things so thank you for letting me know this new meaning for the term, also I have a minor case of A.D.D. so I rarely look past the first page which likely doesn't help my case but hey ho lol.As for Microsoft they've been about as helpful a chocolate fireguard there
same with Sony so I doubt I'll see the money again but eh shizzle happens.I am working on building a PC that can handle things like 7D2D and I do look forward to enjoying the PC version, honestly a Walking Dead Minecraft with decent graphics is one of my dream games so I'm happy knowing the PC version works properly at least.
Also apologies if I made it sound otherwise but I do not hold TFP responsible for the console version and it's shortcomings, I understand Telltale screwed everyone over there, however what with them being a non entity now, I had to ask someone what was going on with the console version if only to make my mum happy (her last corrupt game literally deleted her whole house after the game crashing
)So thank you for giving me a heads up and explaining what I'd misunderstood in the post from last year, also it's nice to see a company respond as quickly as you have to all of these, the last game I had questions like this about I waited 2 years for a response on forums before the game and site closed down (it was an old PC MMO called Grand Chase) so I do appreciate the Flash responses, hope you all have a great day/night depending where in the world you're at!
Klick the link in the big red banner above. You will find a blog post that will answer your questions (and yes, this blog post is still as relevant as when it was posted)Darklink860 said:
I see some video with people say it will have an update soon for the console. This is right or not? I love this game but an update will be perfect. What they really need for an new update in this game? I understand they dont know how tho work with console can they find a partner to work with them for the console release? Well if someone have official link for me to understand what going on it will be appreciate!
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doughphunghus
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Everything I have heard about this indicates it is a lie. Go to the large red banner at the top of this page for official news about updates. The date on the page is a little old but the information is still correct.
Also: have seen several things posted here and other forums of a picture of a “re-released” game for the console on sale. This is a lie/scam to get people to buy an old version of the game, or just to spread lies.
everything I have read indicates the new console version will only come out once the game goes “gold”, and not before. The game is not “gold” today, and there have been no news from the developers when it will be “gold”.
Also: have seen several things posted here and other forums of a picture of a “re-released” game for the console on sale. This is a lie/scam to get people to buy an old version of the game, or just to spread lies.
everything I have read indicates the new console version will only come out once the game goes “gold”, and not before. The game is not “gold” today, and there have been no news from the developers when it will be “gold”.
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Guppycur
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Can a pimp confirm that:
1 - there will be a re-release of the console coming imminently
2 - that re-purchasing the game will be required to receive forthcoming updates?
I was just watching a YT on it (I won't link it just in case it's false information) and that was the implication...
Thanks!
1 - there will be a re-release of the console coming imminently
2 - that re-purchasing the game will be required to receive forthcoming updates?
I was just watching a YT on it (I won't link it just in case it's false information) and that was the implication...
Thanks!
BFT2020
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This has been discussed already. What people are talking about (in regards to the console) is a re-release of TellTale Game's version that they released back in 2016. Several moderators in a few threads (Roland, Meganoth, and Laz Man) all confirmed that TFP are not releasing any updates to the console version this month or have plans on doing so at this time.
In a previous developer stream, they mentioned that they have started working with Unity on a console version but everything is right now just behind the scenes, looking at where they are and what they need to do. They haven't even released a publisher that they are going to work with in regards to the console version. The plan so far is that a console version would not come until after PC goes Gold, and it hasn't been communicated yet if that will require a brand new game or if they are able to update the existing 2016 game.
If they were planning on releasing a console version this month or this year, I think they would have been communicating it out to everyone, not having people go to 3rd party websites / stores in Europe about the release. I checked TFP Official Twitter and not a single announcement about console updates being released this month. So either there isn't one, or they are lousy about marketing their own game (and obviously I believe the former).
Also, I noticed this today on one of the sites promising a 8/20 re-release
Please note : Preowned versions may not include additional content.
If TFP were updating TTG version, then you wouldn't be required to purchase the game to get updates for it. They would roll out for the game you already have. What they may be confused about is that since the PC version is so far advanced compared to the final version the TTG updated to, Microsoft and Sony rules might not allow them to bring it up to the same as the PC version. There also may be hardware limitations that would prevent the older console generations from being able to play the latest version.
Best piece of advice - If the Pimps have not broadcasted this information through their official channels, ignore it.
In a previous developer stream, they mentioned that they have started working with Unity on a console version but everything is right now just behind the scenes, looking at where they are and what they need to do. They haven't even released a publisher that they are going to work with in regards to the console version. The plan so far is that a console version would not come until after PC goes Gold, and it hasn't been communicated yet if that will require a brand new game or if they are able to update the existing 2016 game.
If they were planning on releasing a console version this month or this year, I think they would have been communicating it out to everyone, not having people go to 3rd party websites / stores in Europe about the release. I checked TFP Official Twitter and not a single announcement about console updates being released this month. So either there isn't one, or they are lousy about marketing their own game (and obviously I believe the former).
Also, I noticed this today on one of the sites promising a 8/20 re-release
Please note : Preowned versions may not include additional content.
Did a YT actually imply that you had to buy the game again just to receive upcoming updates? If so, that is the silliest thing I have ever heard.
If TFP were updating TTG version, then you wouldn't be required to purchase the game to get updates for it. They would roll out for the game you already have. What they may be confused about is that since the PC version is so far advanced compared to the final version the TTG updated to, Microsoft and Sony rules might not allow them to bring it up to the same as the PC version. There also may be hardware limitations that would prevent the older console generations from being able to play the latest version.
Best piece of advice - If the Pimps have not broadcasted this information through their official channels, ignore it.
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Roland
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I will clarify this part by saying that TFP had a consult with Unity early on in A20 development and went over several things with them including some things having to do with making the game more port friendly, But to say that TFP is working with Unity devs on an ongoing or regular basis and starting the conversion to console is a gross exaggeration that some influencers are using to build excitement.
When the time comes to create the console version TFP will completely turn over development of that port to another studio and give support as they did with Iron Galaxy the first time. The things they wanted to know from Unity was the best ways to use Unity in developing the PC version so that it would be more friendly for porting later.
BFT2020
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Thanks. That was going through my mind as I was typing up my response, but reading your post, I could see how someone could construe what I wrote into something different.