PC Im literally getting a pc just for this game lol! (specs advice)
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Fox
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I expect it to take years for crypto stuff to slow down as more versions of it keep popping up giving ppl more options to make money from it.Lets hope that they will become cheap, when the crypto-boom will end
While the 2400g will run this game on low settings, it's still not a smart way to go. It'd be like buying a sports car and installing dinky little spare tires on it... completely hindering it's performance. If you're going to build a powerful gaming computer, don't insult it with onboard graphics, plain and simple.
Wrong in every way possible.
GTX 1050 and GTX 1060 is still the best bang per dollar. GTX 1060 is more than capable of running any and all games on high+ settings @1080p 60 fps+ with any game currently out there right now and will continue to be powerful enough to run any game for several years to come. GTX 1070 might be a step up from that, but it's only a small step up and isn't a good value.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with AMD right now. AMD is kicking serious ass right now with their Ryzen CPUs and they have Intel sweating their balls off because of it. Intel was forced to lower their prices because of AMD's latest CPUs, but their overall market share still keeps them far ahead which is why they continue to charge more than they're worth. "You get what you pay for" does not apply to CPUs at all, I'm not sure it ever has. Also, you don't need the very best CPUs to feel dominant in gaming. Even a $100 CPU can still run the latest games on highest graphics settings with high FPS.
Maybe do some research next time before posting nonsense.
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I'd say stay away from people telling you to stay away because of unspecified rumors.
SylenThunder
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I just wanted to quote this and emphasize it even more. I'm running an i7-3930k (circa 2011) with a Evo212 cooler. The chip overclocks stable at 4.2Ghz normal, and 4.8Ghz on turbo. With 6 cores pushing that (12 virtual), it currently clocks barely 10% slower than most of the latest/fastest CPU's. It's only 15% slower than AMD's most recent high-end CPU. I could push it to 4.5/5.0Ghz values as it sits right now, but tends to run a bit hot with the Evo 212 in those ranges. I know it will run a base stable 5.0 with a god liquid cooling system, and at that speed it will come damn close to the same speeds as CPU's that are 7 years newer than it is.
And really, you don't need much more power than that. Almost nothing currently available in regular PC gaming will push the limits of that system.
Maharin
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A precaution concerning Ryzen. No clue how it compares to Spectre or Meltdown but it looks bad.
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/03/a-raft-of-flaws-in-amd-chips-make-bad-hacks-much-much-worse/
I think there's no way to win these days.
So... when is the Raspberrry Pi version of 7DTD coming out?
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/03/a-raft-of-flaws-in-amd-chips-make-bad-hacks-much-much-worse/
I think there's no way to win these days.
So... when is the Raspberrry Pi version of 7DTD coming out?
Fox
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Read it... laughed at it... would still buy and recommend again.A precaution concerning Ryzen. No clue how it compares to Spectre or Meltdown but it looks bad.
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/03/a-raft-of-flaws-in-amd-chips-make-bad-hacks-much-much-worse/
I think there's no way to win these days.
So... when is the Raspberrry Pi version of 7DTD coming out?
Everything has vulnerabilities. And it's like winning the lottery when it comes to someone finding them and using them against you. I bet no one here has ever gotten their computer "hacked" before. Everyone's gotten viruses and stuff like that... but hacked? Cmon, that's 1 in a million chance no matter how "vulnerable" something is.
Also, I would imagine they're already working on a Bios update to fix that dinky little vulnerability by now.
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Maharin
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A mild dose of reality: Getting hacked doesn't mean a person sitting at a terminal somewhere running scripts trying to break into your computer. Hackers these days ARE the viruses you get through email or downloading apps and web sites you go to. People don't hack computers anymore, programs do.
Fox
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Yes, but when was the last time you heard of anyone's computer being completely bricked because of a virus? I personally haven't seen it happen since 14-15 years ago when a client got a bios virus which was easily swapped out at the time. These days, sure, viruses happen requiring a format and re-installation of the OS which is no big deal. But the thing is, viruses only happen when you jump into risky stuff. If you're going on risky websites or download risky stuff with your very important business computer filled with very important information, then you deserve to receive viruses that ruin it all for you. There's a reason why most ppl have multiple computers. There's your important computer which you keep offline for the most part, and there's the throw-away computer which does all the risky stuff and don't care about.
You can have the best hardware with no known vulnerabilities and still get owned by viruses. So what's the point in worrying about it in a CPU, especially when it's likely just going to get fixed in an update long before anyone ever get compromised by it?
Stranded_Napkin
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If you just want a simple inexpensive rig, just look at the budget cpus with the highest clock speeds and then look at the GeForce 1050ti. Should be less than or around $150 for the gpu. With a modest cpu and memory (4-8 gb) you can easily build for less than $600. Just to remember though, modern games don't significantly benefit from more than 4 cores, but some don't run well on less than 4 physical cores. Onboard graphics have improved immensely but will not run many games at high detail efficiently. A game like 7d2d on low to mid settings will play but I wouldn't expect insane fps. If you plan on doing collapses I'd recommend at least 16gb of ram, less if you aren't ever going to be doing that. This game is really more taxing on cpu and memory. I am currently running the 1050ti and get between 45 - 60 fps at 1080p.
Maharin
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That's not true anymore, if it ever was. There have been a lot of high profile sites hijacked that wouldn't otherwise be considered "risky" to visit. There have been updates of well known, previously considered secure software that have been hijacked, infecting many for doing nothing more than getting "security" updates for their software.
But, ignoring updates or thinking nothing is to be done is irresponsible. Thinking your platform of choice (CPU/GPU/OS/whatever) is somehow exempt is also risky.
skullpoker
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This is why you never turn off AdBlock, and if anything in your browser looks "wrong" or ESPECIALLY like a Windows folder, task manager > End Program. Yes, the thing that gives you a confirmation dialog specifically stating data will not be saved. And then run your anti-virus, anti-malware, Kaspersky, Housecall, and anything else you have for it.
Fox
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Ya, Adblock is definitely a must have addon for your browser(s). I use both Adblock and Adblock Plus on all of my machines. Don't know if having both is excessive, but frankly, I couldn't care less. It doesn't affect my browsing performance and together, they work great, especially against Youtube ads which I keep forgetting exists.
But ya, I've never been worried about getting hacked or getting viruses cuz I keep backups of everything and formatting / re-installing windows doesn't take long. By the end of the day, you wouldn't even be capable of telling the difference of before and after the format aside from my browsing history being empty. And my gaming rig doesn't use the internet much at all so it's never seen a virus. So why would I worry?
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Ttocs
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Hey guys i read your advice and plus my own bias against shared memory onboard gpu and went for an overhaul on the rig.
Heres what i settled with in the end for a decent price was only 50£ more than the one from my OP
CPU i7 6700k 4GHz
GPU Evga GTX 960 2GB GDDR5
RAM 8gb Hynix DDR4
SSD 60BG Sandisk
HD 1TB Seagate 7000rpm
MB Asrock Z170 PRO4 Motherboard (for overclocking)
Evga PSU
Cooler Master Hyper TX3i cpu cooler
Watercooling system
Getting another 8GB RAM probably be my first upgrade and ill stick with that after for a while should be more than enough for
this game and a few others I wanna try (LoL, AoE3[can finally play 8 player 40min treaty yay])
Also chose to stick with Win7 over 10 since 7D2D is my main goal to run atm so i didnt think the Directx11 support was needed and i prefer 7 anyway =P thoughts on this?
Will be DLing 7days tommorow on it and finally get my hands on all the extra content is has over PS4.
As for using my ps4 pad ive learned about the new electricity on off mechans and not sure if its feasable, will look more into this or maybe someone knows a nice tool/program I can use to save me looking would be great d^.^b
cheers again for you lots help, much appreciated
Heres what i settled with in the end for a decent price was only 50£ more than the one from my OP
CPU i7 6700k 4GHz
GPU Evga GTX 960 2GB GDDR5
RAM 8gb Hynix DDR4
SSD 60BG Sandisk
HD 1TB Seagate 7000rpm
MB Asrock Z170 PRO4 Motherboard (for overclocking)
Evga PSU
Cooler Master Hyper TX3i cpu cooler
Watercooling system
Getting another 8GB RAM probably be my first upgrade and ill stick with that after for a while should be more than enough for
this game and a few others I wanna try (LoL, AoE3[can finally play 8 player 40min treaty yay])
Also chose to stick with Win7 over 10 since 7D2D is my main goal to run atm so i didnt think the Directx11 support was needed and i prefer 7 anyway =P thoughts on this?
Will be DLing 7days tommorow on it and finally get my hands on all the extra content is has over PS4.
As for using my ps4 pad ive learned about the new electricity on off mechans and not sure if its feasable, will look more into this or maybe someone knows a nice tool/program I can use to save me looking would be great d^.^b
cheers again for you lots help, much appreciated
Maharin
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You might want to go with a higher memory video card (960 is fine, but 2GB of video RAM will likely leave you wanting). And, seriously, go with 16GB of main RAM if you can afford it. It's like adding a second monitor... once you've done it you'll wonder how you ever lived without it.
EDIT: Windows 7 ends support in January of 2020. If you will be keeping this rig longer than that then you might just want to go with Windows 10. I didn't but then I'm one of those Linux nerds.
EDIT: Windows 7 ends support in January of 2020. If you will be keeping this rig longer than that then you might just want to go with Windows 10. I didn't but then I'm one of those Linux nerds.
Fox
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60GB SSD will fill near instantly even if all you want on there is the OS. Besides, this game runs far better on an SSD, so you'll at least want to install this game on it.
GTX 1050 is probably a lot cheaper and not that much worse than the GTX 960... and easier to find as well. This game can use up to 3GB of video memory on full texture size, so just something to consider. 2GB video memory would likely be fine on half texture size though.
EVGA PSU, while a very nice option as I plan on buying one for myself someday, you do pay a lot extra for that level of shiny. You also didn't mention the wattage which is kind of important.
Water cooling is a waste of money in my opinion, and far too risky and requires maintenance. There's plenty of aftermarket fan coolers out there that can perform nearly as well for a lot less money.
I agree with the others on the 16GB (2x8GB) sticks of ram, leaving 2 empty slots for future upgrades if ever needed.
Windows 7 for the win! DirectX 12 is a joke in my opinion, totally not worth getting Win10 just for that.
GTX 1050 is probably a lot cheaper and not that much worse than the GTX 960... and easier to find as well. This game can use up to 3GB of video memory on full texture size, so just something to consider. 2GB video memory would likely be fine on half texture size though.
EVGA PSU, while a very nice option as I plan on buying one for myself someday, you do pay a lot extra for that level of shiny. You also didn't mention the wattage which is kind of important.
Water cooling is a waste of money in my opinion, and far too risky and requires maintenance. There's plenty of aftermarket fan coolers out there that can perform nearly as well for a lot less money.
I agree with the others on the 16GB (2x8GB) sticks of ram, leaving 2 empty slots for future upgrades if ever needed.
Windows 7 for the win!
DirectX 12 is a joke in my opinion, totally not worth getting Win10 just for that.I thought the support ended years ago? Or are you referring to the Driver support? If that's the case, we'll see about that. As long as the popularity with Windows 7 remains high, hardware manufacturers will have no choice but to continue supporting it. Besides, Windows 8 drivers are pretty much the same.
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in 2020 microsoft stop supporting w7, same as windows xp in 2014Windows 7 for the win!
I thought the support ended years ago? Or are you referring to the Driver support? If that's the case, we'll see about that. As long as the popularity with Windows 7 remains high, hardware manufacturers will have no choice but to continue supporting it. Besides, Windows 8 drivers are pretty much the same.