Ah right, probably the fire vs. no fire icon. Different method, same result. Do you have some rules as a moderator about checking new posts, or a set partitioning among moderators? Or just some informal agreement who watches what?
PC Hopes and Worries about the Telltale Closure and Future of Console Edition
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SylenThunder
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No rules really outside of enforcing the forum rules. The only "set partitioning" we really have is that xyth focuses more on the modding section. We all pretty much watch everything though. Each of us has different schedules. (not assigned, it's just life around the globe)
Most forum moderation is rather informal, and we police each other.
Acidspittingemu
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I've been checking the forums for new news every month or so, and hadn't even heard that some other company had necroed Telltale back into existence until this morning. At first I was actually excited about this, but after looking at the new Telltale website, it clearly states that they "do not currently have any rights to sell, distribute, or support 7 Days to Die". That leaves me with a few questions. Why would they use the word "currently"? Are they planning on trying to obtain those rights? What will they actually do with them if they do get them? Can we really trust them to handle the game again? If they aren't the supposed "mystery buyer" we had seen spoken about previously in the forums, then who is? If they don't have the right to sell, where is any money from any new sales currently going? I feel like I'm more befuddled by the whole situation now than I even was before, lol.
Your guess is as good as anyone's at this point.
But with zero word from anyone, I won't hold my breath that anything will ever continue forward with the game on console.
I won't say it's impossible, but from TFP, new Telltale, to Iron Galaxy, not a single word has been given. Even if it was just to say they were working toward it, or something to signify the game on console wasn't just tossed away would've been appreciated by everyone.
But this lack of response and level of silence has undoubtedly damaged the player base on console.
I personally still play it, love it still. Would've loved to seen just a few more things that A16 offered to be added into console version and I wouldn't have cared after that, but now?
I'll place my vision toward PC. It's a shame, but any further hope is energy wasted in my opinion.
But with zero word from anyone, I won't hold my breath that anything will ever continue forward with the game on console.
I won't say it's impossible, but from TFP, new Telltale, to Iron Galaxy, not a single word has been given. Even if it was just to say they were working toward it, or something to signify the game on console wasn't just tossed away would've been appreciated by everyone.
But this lack of response and level of silence has undoubtedly damaged the player base on console.
I personally still play it, love it still. Would've loved to seen just a few more things that A16 offered to be added into console version and I wouldn't have cared after that, but now?
I'll place my vision toward PC. It's a shame, but any further hope is energy wasted in my opinion.
maughanorama
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Game is long dead on console get over it and play something else
I do not think I am the only one who would be supporting the idea of a paid update sold as a DLC on console to put us to A17 or close to whatever stable version is out there. Call the product what you want and polish the art a bit and slap a 30 to 40$ and people will buy it I am pretty sure. You could slap all the character individual packs in it as an incentive too. The game is good and it made a bundle on console. Your call.
skillz_over_9000
Banned
Not at all something that should happen. We already bought the game broken and had little to no support that passed 2 years. Nobody should invest another dime in this game until we get the upgrade from over a year ago to at least make it playable. Honestly at this point i dont even know how the game is still being sold.
Freestyle604
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I think we all know it is dead. Unfortunately we are just waiting for this major legal battle to end to get the same statement from TFP. The pep talk was when TFP said they were going to try to get the rights back to support console players. When support was changed to aid console players. I think that would have been the time to come clean that the update isn’t happening. Of course in another month we will hit the 1 year anniversary of the Tell Tale Update post in News and Announcments, and sadly nothing has changed since we haven’t heard from TFP, except the “legal issues” and buy a PC version blip in the Alpha 18 video for PC.
I agree with Maughamanorama it is dead but TFP haven’t acknowledged that yet.
8-2-19 RIP.
To me this wording is very specific. Based on some of the rumors and speculation, I think that statement supports the theory that TFP did not succesfully purchase the console code during the auction.
It's very possible that these new owners still retain the rights to the 7D2D console code, but can't do anything with it because TFP yanked back the "rights to sell, distribute, or support 7 Days to Die" after the TTG collapse. Which I'm sure was done on TFP's part due to some breach of contract clause and probably because TTG was broke and stop paying royalties owed to TFP.
If all of that is more or less true then it really is a legal mess now. Especially if TFP has lost interest and/or faith in continued console support going forward. Or the new TTG as stated isn't interested in anything but story driven adventure type games. Although that would be odd since 7D2D was actually one of old TTG's better performers in sales. Very few titles actually made money for them; Walking Dead Season 1, Minecraft Story Mode, and 7 Days to Die were about all from what I understood.
Either way. 7 Days to Die is definitely dead on consoles. At least for this generation. Maybe in a few years we might see a new release launch on PS5 and Xbox Scarlet.
I mean does anyone seriously expect any new updates, patches, or content before Fall of 2020? In one year the new Gen hits, no one is going to start a new development project this late for the current Gen. And yes resurrecting even an existing game like 7D2D would probably be just as much work as starting a new game would be. Except with a much lower chance for a return on investment. Most people who were going to buy the game already did.
What about paid DLC? That would help financially speaking a little bit but not much. Even in a very active game the player retention after 12 months is very low and this game is more than few years old. Furthermore the DLC purchase rate even among current players for any game is low. So fractions upon fractions of total lifetime buying players MIGHT buy a DLC. So it just isn't happening guys. 7D2D console is done.
Link to the Telltale FAQ with the 7D2D statement:
https://www.telltale.com/player-support/
Acidspittingemu
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Nope, I don't think I will "play something else", as you so rudely stated. Don't get me wrong, I own a ton of other games, but when I get the hankering for some good old fashioned zombie slaying, this is the only title that does it for me. Since I can't play on PC, because my PC is older and can't handle the game in its current state, my only option is console, which I still play to this day, despite it's buggy, laggy, glitchy performance. As such, I hold out hope, however slim, that one day, console players may see the long awaited update we very much deserve. I don't care about graphical updates, or catching up with PC (that'll never happen, even if console does start getting updates again), or new items/enemies/locations. Those would just be proverbial icing. I just want bug fixes. I am also well aware that, in all likelyhood, the console version is dead, I didn't need you douching that out for me. That doesn't prevent me from retaining that small sliver of hope, which I will continue to hold on to until I get formal word from the devs themselves that it's over, at which time I will continue just as I have been, playing the game regardless, and without complaint, because, despite its many flaws, it's still an amazing game.
crazywildfire
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Well (if) the game makes it to the next gen console some how regardless if this mess finally gets worked out or they can do something else for the next console then it could be up to date with PC. The next gen consoles should be above the minimum requirements in specs to run the game. So guess we will see how things go and what happens. But hopefully at the least if this stuff doesn't get worked out they can call console part 2 or something as it would be the same game but different game at the same time. Idk anyway besides the point, just sayin next gen can be up to date if it happens so don't ever say never
PS5 is predicted to release by the end of next year. Xbox, not entirely sure, but I would assume it'll be around the same time frame.
In all honesty, at this point in time, with still no word on the current state of affairs, I wouldn't hold my breath. Perhaps with the next Gen consoles, but even then, that's over a year away.
It would've been great to have heard something by now. Even better would've been the update Iron Galaxy was working on. I had hoped to have seen the new POI's, additional zombie skins, the Navezgane update, and mostly the painting system. But, sigh...
But to say the game is dead? No, that's just those who are jealous over the PC version. Console wasn't released as being in Alpha, so by all rights, they never had to give updates if they didn't want to. Want the current version and be like PC? Then they need to buy a PC...
The game is far from dead in my opinion. It's still an amazing game, and I'm constantly exploring and having fun grinding for materials as I seek out my next build. While I am eventually going to upgrade to a PC, I can't help but treasure my PS4 copy. Especially considering how they've changed various aspects that I have no excitement for. In fact, if we could've gotten all of A16 and it ended there, we wouldn't have needed anything else, and we may have had the best version to be honest compared to the crap they've altered in A18. Unless you want to play a looter/shooter...
In all honesty, at this point in time, with still no word on the current state of affairs, I wouldn't hold my breath. Perhaps with the next Gen consoles, but even then, that's over a year away.
It would've been great to have heard something by now. Even better would've been the update Iron Galaxy was working on. I had hoped to have seen the new POI's, additional zombie skins, the Navezgane update, and mostly the painting system. But, sigh...
But to say the game is dead? No, that's just those who are jealous over the PC version. Console wasn't released as being in Alpha, so by all rights, they never had to give updates if they didn't want to. Want the current version and be like PC? Then they need to buy a PC...
The game is far from dead in my opinion. It's still an amazing game, and I'm constantly exploring and having fun grinding for materials as I seek out my next build. While I am eventually going to upgrade to a PC, I can't help but treasure my PS4 copy. Especially considering how they've changed various aspects that I have no excitement for. In fact, if we could've gotten all of A16 and it ended there, we wouldn't have needed anything else, and we may have had the best version to be honest compared to the crap they've altered in A18. Unless you want to play a looter/shooter...
crazywildfire
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One year away isn't that long. By then the game will be around beta or pretty close to it. So would kinda work out if they can and able to release it on next gen. I like the console version for what it is right now but I would be lieing sayin that A16 on PC is better then A18. It still needs a little work be A18 for me is the best fun I have had in a long time and we do a little of everything and get XP for it so not sure how it is just for looter/shooter. Granted it does have a lot to do with the two but during alpha we the players are not seeing the road map to how this all gets put into place for the bigger picture such as bandits and the story mode being put into it. Anyway this is console so don't wanna go into it that much here as it is kinda pointless at the moment. Just sayin it is more then just looting and shooting imo.
skillz_over_9000
Banned
Your right we were sold a "complete" out of date version which wasn't disclosed when the game was launched. Had TT, IG or FP made the disclaimer consol would be versions behind with little to no support nobody would have bought it. Of course all the money from consol benefited all those on pc so its no wonder pc players dont understand the issue.
SylenThunder
Community Moderator / IT Guru
It was never hidden that the console version was made from the Alpha 14.7 version of the game, or that it may not get any future updates or content.
Most of the money from the console version went to TellTale. It did not go to the PC, or have any significant benefit to the PC version.
I seriously don't know where you guys come up with this kind of ♥♥♥♥.
Maybe if you did some research before making a purchase like any smart consumer would, you wouldn't be making blatantly ignorant statements.
From what I've seen so far, crafting has taken a step backwards (in tool/weapon aspect). What I mean by that is the fact looting often grants far superior results and the only way to get T6 is only through looting, which is disappointing imo, especially when people are finding T6 "endgame" tools/weapons within the 1st few days. So I'm hoping they rebalanced it better, cause crafting/building is a major appeal for many more than just me lol. But that's kinda why I'll define it as a looter/shooter mentality in a sense.
Don't get me wrong, when I finally get to upgrade, we'll let's be honest, it'll be like A20 by then at this rate lol, I'm sure I'll think much more differently.
Acidspittingemu
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https://7daystodie.com/console-news/
Official console news, finally. All I have to say is.... ouch. But at least now we know. There will be a future for the console version, just not like many of us were hoping for. Regardless, I'm happy with some answers. I'll continue to play, as I have stated, until such a time comes that the game is updated or re-released. Thank you TFP, sincerely.
Official console news, finally. All I have to say is.... ouch. But at least now we know. There will be a future for the console version, just not like many of us were hoping for. Regardless, I'm happy with some answers. I'll continue to play, as I have stated, until such a time comes that the game is updated or re-released. Thank you TFP, sincerely.
If indeed true, yeah, seeing any future update would still be up for debate sadly.
That makes me wonder if they've talked with Iron Galaxy any then. As they were in the development of our updates, and I would think they still have their work saved. It would be the more logical choice to get an update to console. Unfortunately, this also is a problem since nobody wants to work for free. And I can completely understand that.
If TFP would offer an update as a DLC, how many console users would actually be opposed to it? This would also depend in what the DLC would consist of obviously. Cause while I really would like the POI's and Painting system (basically A16 with the possibility of vehicles for fun for ppl), there are other things to focus on, like Xbox users with that bs MD5 error they experience, to stability issues (like how my game would crash because I used too many modern lights), and much more.
Sadly, I can see it waiting as we've mentioned before when it came to the next Gen consoles though. Though both consoles will be backward compatible, the question then would be whether TFP's would rather simply look into updating this version, or simply release an entirely new version in a year or so down the road.
I know I would personally support it even if I had to offer some money in return. This is still easily one of my most favorite games I've ever played. Hell, I started back in August after taking a good break from the game and haven't stopped since for any other game lol.