PC Hopes and Worries about the Telltale Closure and Future of Console Edition

Thanks for opening this new thread where we could discuss stuff about the future of the game in an appropiately titled forum and section for discussion. Roland. What a jerk. CENSORSHIP IS REAL!

Im apparently one of the few straglers and i do matter! Like a fly to a turd i keep coming back. Am i the fly...or the turd....only time will tell.

Also if not abundantly clear. This was sarcasm. That other thread was long overdue to be closed. The only thing wrong with the whole situation was that roland actually took the time to respond to the forum trolls. Well just so you know the leftover turds like me understand.

Still hoping for the best.

 
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Thanks for opening this new thread where we could discuss stuff about the future of the game in an appropiately titled forum and section for discussion. Roland. What a jerk. CENSORSHIP IS REAL!
Im apparently one of the few straglers and i do matter! Like a fly to a turd i keep coming back. Am i the fly...or the turd....only time will tell.

Also if not abundantly clear. This was sarcasm. That other thread was long overdue to be closed. The only thing wrong with the whole situation was that roland actually took the time to respond to the forum trolls. Well just so you know the leftover turds like me understand.

Still hoping for the best.
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LOL...something smells funny....

 
so is the game dead i think a yes or no is in order were adults here well some but game had a good run if its done well thats it but if you got updates kicking around get them out bro

 
here’s how I see it. TFP bought the rights back but they don’t know if it’s worth the money to update. and if they do update then is it going to be ongoing updates for A16 then A17 etc or just one last update.

so I think they can prolly only update once for how much it costs to do that since the game is more than 2 years old on console now which means it’s basically bargain bin and used game status now. So it would just be to please mostly already existing customers. Updating isn’t going to bring in a lot of new money in other words.

so if that is all true then they prolly will wait until the final version to update console just once more instead of a few more bit by bit.

But they are a business so they may decide it isn’t worth the cost at all and not do it. That’s prolly why they can’t say anything yet.

 
Sorry, but the Game is 6 years old (on PC) and they Update it. Why they do it? Because the want to get new Customers. And thats whats also possible for Consoles.

 
Nobody has been punished or banned or silenced. The announcement thread has been closed to all but developers and there is a place here for people to continue as they were wondering when a new announcement would come and speculating on who bought the rights and what it all means. Closing the announcement thread is consistent with all the rest of the announcement threads in that subforum. Take a look. Every single thead is locked.
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Yeah, this has some much credibility coming from a "true believer" and Mr. PC master race, who is rubbing salt to console players in every turn possible. It's not hard argument at all to make that by closing the stickied thread and opening this new one, you are deliberately trying to limit the attention this conversation will get. The fact that you are clearly going above and beyond defending TFP in every turn possible, does not help to convince otherwise either.

Based on the general life experience, it's more than probable that the console port is dead and TFP know it, but keep their customers in the dark for PR and profit reasons. The game is still for sale on PS store for whopping آ€35!! It is very likely that it still generates some random revenue, despite the current state of the game on consoles. Even tough Telltale owned the rights to the console version, I am really skeptical that TFP would have done so bad contract that they would not get any revenue from console sales.

Usually people are not so stupid that they believe everything that PR-Parrots keep spewing. They have enough life experience to understand that life is not as black and white as people who are affiliated with the capitalistic companies are trying to portray. The sad ones are the ones that spread these lies/intentional misleadings that they seem to believe them self.

 
Sorry, but the Game is 6 years old (on PC) and they Update it. Why they do it? Because the want to get new Customers. And thats whats also possible for Consoles.
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That's mainly because it's still in Alpha development, and isn't finished yet. :)

Yeah, this has some much credibility coming from a "true believer" and Mr. PC master race, who is rubbing salt to console players in every turn possible.
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Sorry man, but the PCMR comment is just plain stupid. You lose all credibility the second you toss that out there.

Of course PC's are better than consoles. This will pretty much always be the case because they are designed specifically to do a hell of a lot more.

You might as well toss a few other really stupid words like fanboi into your post.

No one is rubbing salt. We're just being realistic. I understand the console crowd has some issues with that sometimes, but that's just too bad. Yall need to get over it.

 
That's mainly because it's still in Alpha development, and isn't finished yet. :)
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Mainly? 😂😂😂 I thought it was THE reason 🤔

Sorry man, but the PCMR comment is just plain stupid. You lose all credibility the second you toss that out there.Of course PC's are better than consoles. This will pretty much always be the case because they are designed specifically to do a hell of a lot more.

You might as well toss a few other really stupid words like fanboi into your post.

No one is rubbing salt. We're just being realistic. I understand the console crowd has some issues with that sometimes, but that's just too bad. Yall need to get over it.
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We are talking about someone that has only made this one post and being the first post this is what they say. Most likely someone that has either been ban or made another account to write it😂😂

 
I'm not a regular poster and despite lurking the forums for years I only recently joined in the discussion as I do have interest in the future of 7D2D console. I believe to date my posts have been fairly neutral and I've tried to be reasonable in my comments.

However, I'm going to step in and defend the vocally frustrated. They are not turds and trolls. These guys have spent months or possibly years posting their questions, hopes, predictions, theories, and yes frustration. I can empathize with their position. They are clearly mega fans of the game and only want to see it improve and be the best that it can be or at the very least become a more stable experience (particularly Xbox owners).

For the majority of the last six months they have generally defended TFP. It was not TFP's fault that TTG collapsed and put the future of 7D2D console was put in doubt. Most of us get that.

However, it is very reasonable at this point to critize the way that TFP has handled their cone of silence approach. Do I need to be told weekly, "sorry no news" no I don't. However, they could've been at the forefront of some of the developments. Why did the fan base have to chase down information on their own? Such as Sherwood Partners is handling the asset liquidation, or that the auction would be in April, or that the auction has been completed, or that 7D2D console publishing rights and IG code was purchased, or that the buyer chose to be anonymous, etc.

Those are details that TFP should've been the ones to release. There is no legal risk as it is public knowledge. They don't have to back up those statements of fact with any sort of promises or commitments. It's simply keeping the consumer aware of the situation. That is the type of "no news" that would at least convey to us the super fans, who are stilling playing the game, and taking time out of our day to care enough to continually visit these forums because we love what TFP has created.

We are not trolls and turds. Close the News thread? Fine I get the reason. Should've happen months ago. Although in all fairness it really wouldn't have spun out of control if there was more official news transparency. So that culpability is as equally shared between the TFP team's approach as it is with the vocal dissenters.

Lastly, Roland And Sylen are just about our only official conduit to TFP in this pocket of silence. I immensely appreciate their patience in dealing with a difficult sutuation. Having said that I would be remiss in not noting that some of the responses to the fanbase can come off as sarcastic at least lately. You guys do a great job but I caution keeping it above board and professional. We are just looking for news to a game we love.

Again calling people trolls and turds because they ask questions isn't appropriate. Some of you might be content to sit and around and wait for an announcement that may never come. You do you. For myself I'm going to be more vocal, tactfully vocal than some I hope, but I'm going to ask TFP for a bone every now and then. I bought their product so yes they actually do owe me that much if they want to retain a repeat customer. That is Marketing 101.

I work in Business Development and

I guarantee that if I ignored my customer emails and phone calls, I would lose that business very very quickly. I owe my customers the courtesy of addressing them when queried. No different than TFP owing me, a buying customer, the same level of respect.

That's all. My two cents. Thank you.

 
Any hopes and/or fears regarding the console edition is based on knowledge that is now nearly a year old. Either way, its speculation at best. At worst, with Twitter posts popping up and getting deleted from TFP saying both they regret the console version, and yet don't want to lose the console community, it's really hard to say what the future, if at all, holds for this game.

To close off the main thread from the few people that still posted on it siting the negative nature of the conversation as the reason, and then making a brand new post so that we can continue the conversation seems to me to be a flexing of unnecessary forum powers. Granted the announcement post should have been closed last year, when became clear that there would be no further updates until after the TT bankruptcy hearings of earlier this year. New announcements should be made in new threads, but what so I know?

The stark silence over a year after the last update we received speaks volumes. If the Fun Pimps cared at all for the console market, they would have at least shot out a brief update after the hearings even if it was just to say "We have not forgotten the consoles. We are still working toward getting updates rolling." Or, "Sadly, due to unavoidable legal ramifications, we will be unable to continue console support." Instead, we are in the dark. It makes it hard for me to justify giving the game disk space. I mean why should I give space to a game owned by a developer when it feels like they got what they wanted from me and now they're done?

 
I just hope TFP gets the rights back to the game. I picked up 7D2D after watching Game Society Pimps play it and got it for my console and PC. Yes the console has some glitches(Having issues getting torches onto things) but over all I still have lots of fun playing. :)

 
Sorry man, but the PCMR comment is just plain stupid. You lose all credibility the second you toss that out there.

Of course PC's are better than consoles. This will pretty much always be the case because they are designed specifically to do a hell of a lot more.

You might as well toss a few other really stupid words like fanboi into your post.

No one is rubbing salt. We're just being realistic. I understand the console crowd has some issues with that sometimes, but that's just too bad. Yall need to get over it.
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I happen to know the differences of PC hardware and the current consoles, as I believe most of the people do, the thing you and other moderators here don't seem to understand is that telling people to get the PC version as an answer for problems with the console version, is just adding insult to the injury. We console customers have paid for our game just like you PC customers! I wonder how you would feel is the situation would be the other way around? If something, you PC users should be grateful to us for helping to finance the development of your beloved PC version, not treating us like dirt or an annoyance.

The fact that you decided to only answer a small part of my post and disregard most of it, just confirms what I was saying.

The fanboy crazywildfire's comment shows just how sad the atmosphere in here is towards us console customers .

As Dernagon put it very politely, TFP has not handled this well at all. I find it strange and wrong how gaming companies think they can treat their customers. If I would treat my customers even half as bad as they do, I would be out of job in a heart beat. Same time game companies treat their customers like trash and some sad individuals even spend their lives, going over and beyond, defending these immoral people for free. The mind boggles...

Edit: The total disregard for console customers is very clear. TFP has not even bothered to fix the broken console link on their main 7 days to die website. Yes I can now clearly see that the only issue here is the too high expectations of paying console customers. What a disgrace...

 
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crazywildfire, seems your guess was right.
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😂😂😂😂

Well ya know. It must be the fanboy in me that spotted it 😉. With that said only a few people here that has had a account before go on about the PCMR stuff so got an idea on who it is.😂😂😂😂

 
The fact that you decided to only answer a small part of my post and disregard most of it, just confirms what I was saying.
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Sometimes there’s only a very small part of an entire post that warrants a response because you can tell that the person has already made up their mind and nothing will change it.

Case in point.

 
Sometimes there’s only a very small part of an entire post that warrants a response because you can tell that the person has already made up their mind and nothing will change it.
Case in point.
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No Roland I don't see your point. Why don't you spell your case out for us pleb console gamer "fanboi"s who have to just "get over it" as Sylen so eloquently put it.

It doesn't matter if the lemon car I bought is a Maserati (aka PC) or a Ford Fiesta (aka consoles). Customer rights laws exist for a reason. Since you seem to implicate occasionally that you have inside knowledge on the inner circle of TFP, why don't you go ahead and give them a courtesy heads up that their behavior could be actionable. Should someone with the means and desire pursue that course.

Pretty sure the smug responses would evaporate quite rapidly and everyone liable would wish pretty quickly that they had handled this situation differently. TFP is a small developer and it would not take much effort to drastically alter their future.

As I said previously, I love 7D2D and TFP, but that doesn't mean our good will is infinite. Toss us a bone every now and then and more importantly show a little respect.

 
So they should always show respect no matter what or how the customer is being?

Sorry but I have very close friends that started a business in 1992 and still going strong grossing out over $850,000 a week. They will tell you very first thing customers are not always right and to stop being a whiny little *****. The establishment and atmosphere is not for everyone and they don't care. They will be rude in a heart beat if you are rude or demanding first.

The mods are not perfect by any means I disagree with a lot of things they say and sometimes do. But I hardly ever see one just come out being rude unless someone was being disrespectful. So I say show respect and you get it.

 
I have mostly been lurking checking in from time to time, and have not really been bothered with actually creating an account to respond to some of the "lovely things being said"

although I totally agree with both parties kinda going on about the same thing..

The only thing the console players want is "good" customer service for the product that they have purchased and basically want "seller" (insert who ever) to take responsibility for what ever they have sold to buyer... sadly "seller" is no more and thus not able to uphold this responsibility so customer is looking for alternatives basically who ever bought the rights kinda have to uphold this now.

Sorry but I have very close friends that started a business in 1992 and still going strong grossing out over $850,000 a week. They will tell you very first thing customers are not always right and to stop being a whiny little *****. The establishment and atmosphere is not for everyone and they don't care. They will be rude in a heart beat if you are rude or demanding first.
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The above stated fact by wildfire is actually true atleast it is in the part of the world I come from.. sometimes customers are not right and its for the best to keep them in the dark for abit or have to adress them that what they want is not for their best intrest..

Conclusion to this entire ♥♥♥♥ty post with things that have mostly already been said..

things could have been handled in the aftermath alittle bit better to reduce the crisis some people feel that is going on right now.. If this would have been done it would reduce crisis management in the long run which could "potentially" harm the PC part of the game..

The best thing they can do at this point to kinda stop this ongoing discussion in my opinion is, reveal if they got the rights.

and if not who did, so console players can uphold that party to customer service and so forth.

keep calm things will work out eventually.

 
I have mostly been lurking checking in from time to time, and have not really been bothered with actually creating an account to respond to some of the "lovely things being said"
although I totally agree with both parties kinda going on about the same thing..

The only thing the console players want is "good" customer service for the product that they have purchased and basically want "seller" (insert who ever) to take responsibility for what ever they have sold to buyer... sadly "seller" is no more and thus not able to uphold this responsibility so customer is looking for alternatives basically who ever bought the rights kinda have to uphold this now.

The above stated fact by wildfire is actually true atleast it is in the part of the world I come from.. sometimes customers are not right and its for the best to keep them in the dark for abit or have to adress them that what they want is not for their best intrest..

Conclusion to this entire ♥♥♥♥ty post with things that have mostly already been said..

things could have been handled in the aftermath alittle bit better to reduce the crisis some people feel that is going on right now.. If this would have been done it would reduce crisis management in the long run which could "potentially" harm the PC part of the game..

The best thing they can do at this point to kinda stop this ongoing discussion in my opinion is, reveal if they got the rights.

and if not who did, so console players can uphold that party to customer service and so forth.

keep calm things will work out eventually.
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Agree. Not saying at all that some of this couldn't of or be handled in a better way. At the same time though we only see one side of things we have no clue the other side. We don't know what kind of contract that written up and such. Some stuff is public knowledge but the deeper stuff that we don't know about might not be and that is what could be keeping them from talking about it.

Could they come and please one side of the people and say sorry we are still working on things sure. But at the same time once they do many will start asking questions. It gets done all the time and has been done here on the forums on both sides console and PC. So maybe they find it better to just do what they are doing. Maybe it is the wrong way to go about it maybe it is the right way. It is matter of opinion I guess on how one feels about it.

Now my post just in general not saying you Silezia was towards those that come across rude and disrespectful first. Just incase any confusion.

 
No Roland I don't see your point. Why don't you spell your case out for us pleb console gamer "fanboi"s who have to just "get over it" as Sylen so eloquently put it.
It doesn't matter if the lemon car I bought is a Maserati (aka PC) or a Ford Fiesta (aka consoles). Customer rights laws exist for a reason. Since you seem to implicate occasionally that you have inside knowledge on the inner circle of TFP, why don't you go ahead and give them a courtesy heads up that their behavior could be actionable. Should someone with the means and desire pursue that course.

Pretty sure the smug responses would evaporate quite rapidly and everyone liable would wish pretty quickly that they had handled this situation differently. TFP is a small developer and it would not take much effort to drastically alter their future.

As I said previously, I love 7D2D and TFP, but that doesn't mean our good will is infinite. Toss us a bone every now and then and more importantly show a little respect.
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So they should always show respect no matter what or how the customer is being?
Sorry but I have very close friends that started a business in 1992 and still going strong grossing out over $850,000 a week. They will tell you very first thing customers are not always right and to stop being a whiny little *****. The establishment and atmosphere is not for everyone and they don't care. They will be rude in a heart beat if you are rude or demanding first.

The mods are not perfect by any means I disagree with a lot of things they say and sometimes do. But I hardly ever see one just come out being rude unless someone was being disrespectful. So I say show respect and you get it.
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The mods actually do have my utmost respect. Dealing with difficult people every day would wear on anyone. Deserves even more respect when it is a voluntary unpaid burden.

I agree that the customer is not always right. Bad customers might even deserve getting treated poorly. It depends on the circumstances. In this particular case I believe that the frustrated customers are actually in the right.

Had TTG closed and it was left at that, there would be no issues with TFP. They chose to come out and make a statement that they were seeking to get the console publishing rights back. Well the auction is over. Did you get them TFP or not? Is a very fair question.

Secondly they stated that they had every intention of continuing support for the console version. So now we the customers actually have a very legitimate interest in how things shake out.

They can't get our hopes up and then ghost us. This is actually made worse because most of us had already given up on seeing any update at all. Even before TTG shutdown it was clear that chances were all but none. Then TFP comes riding in on their white horse and says "we got you. If it is at all in our power we can, nay, we will save the day!" Paraphrasing of course, but you get the point.

Since that glorious day and the second coming of TFP... Radio silence. I think it is quite fair to lob some criticism where it is due. And unless a poster on here is truly getting out of hand I would argue that they are entitled to even a little level of outrage.

My biggest fear with the moderators is that I can see their frustration. Their comments and replies are showing less restraint. I emphasize with them. Sure no one has been getting banned or anything yet, but its not a big leap to take that next step.

For my part I do apologize to Roland for my comment last night. Upon reflection and rereading I don't feel he deserved that. Still think he could've left out that last sentence... but regardless I was inappropriate.

 
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