PC Have we figured out what zombies are yet?

Maharin said:
Like a 7DTD themed SKYHILL game?  :p
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That's a pretty good example, although I basically copied the idea from the "Slow Burn" series by Bobby Adar, and just added that you have 7 hours before most people in your city know what's going on.  No point-and-click though, IMO they kinda suck.

So in the series, the "zombies" eat everything including the weak/dead zombies.  The stronger/smarter zombies remain over time, like in 7D2D.

 
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Aldranon said:
The game would HAVE to be non-voxel as the numbers of zombies would be insane for quite some time.
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I wonder..... what if the map were super tiny, like limited to 1/2 or 1/4 of a normal city today, and it was just 1 biome, nothing fancy. 
 

few buildings.  Maybe even just a neighborhood setting (all small

pois).

would you be able to crank up the zeds?

of course, once “day 7 hits” you would have to have your character load into a new “large map”.  But then again, it might be super fun to fight the first horde on a small map before you end up naked and afraid with nothing on you. It might also enable you to have your “starting items” vary based on how you did on the first horde, NPcs you helped or did not help. Like, if you killed Rekt in the pre game, he wouldn’t be a trader in the post game. Maybe you would have some NPc special quests like “find your family” or something. Or if your pet dog survived then you have a pet on day 1.

maybe your character stats could be “locked in” a little based on how you did, as if your class was chosen for you. 
 

yeah, I know , all pie in the sky.... unless someone figures out how to take a character from 1 game and transfer it to another... then people could make mini games, custom maps/mods for stuff like this.

 
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doughphunghus said:
I wonder..... what if the map were super tiny, like limited to 1/2 or 1/4 of a normal city today, and it was just 1 biome, nothing fancy. 
 

few buildings.  Maybe even just a neighborhood setting (all small

pois).

would you be able to crank up the zeds?

of course, once “day 7 hits” you would have to have your character load into a new “large map”.  But then again, it might be super fun to fight the first horde on a small map before you end up naked and afraid with nothing on you. It might also enable you to have your “starting items” vary based on how you did on the first horde, NPcs you helped or did not help. Like, if you killed Rekt in the pre game, he wouldn’t be a trader in the post game. Maybe you would have some NPc special quests like “find your family” or something. Or if your pet dog survived then you have a pet on day 1.

maybe your character stats could be “locked in” a little based on how you did, as if your class was chosen for you. 
 

yeah, I know , all pie in the sky.... unless someone figures out how to take a character from 1 game and transfer it to another... then people could make mini games, custom maps/mods for stuff like this.
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I always try to imagine who my character was before I start the game.  The one game plot in the game that is a good guild is the note in your pocket.

Using that, the Duke thinks you're strong enough to survive with nothing and end up paying him more money soon.  But you're not so strong as to be a direct threat to him, otherwise you would be dead.

So instead of 4 points at the end of the first quest, I give 10 or even 20 points (depending how lazy I feel).  Using this method, you could easily recreate your prequel character into 7D2D.

 
Kyonshi said:
Newspaper pages on the ground seem to point out to an aggressive strain of flu that decimated the population and most probably turned people into the walking corpses we now fight against. So if anything, the viral cause may be the main lead for zombification. Now, what's the origin of this strain? That remains to be seen. But so far, we clearly have classic, shambling zombies.

We still need to explain the origin of the special zombies, like the acid-spitting Cop, the Screamer and the super-zombie wraith or wight or whatever's the name (i dont remember rn). And also who puts the explosive charges on the Demos.

The Cop seems to be a mutation. So we could put this on effects of radioactivity. The Screamer seems to also have been affected in such way. Or we could also consider scientific experimentation on her (she's wearing a gown that's similar to those worn by people going to surgery room). The Wight seems to have developed super speed and fortitude from the radioactivity or is also a result of unorthodox experiements.

Nothing indicates a supernatural cause like necromancy, or anything related to some occult and esoteric forces. So i guess we would have to rule this out. Still, the way Blood Moons affect zombies is actually very strange and this doesnt seem to be natural...
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In the middle ages viruses, epidemics and even chance was explained by the supernatural, witches, the devil, religion... Because the scientific explanation was far out of reach

The times they are a changing and science and the supernatural has switched places

Nowadays science is the explanation for everything and no scientist or journalist in his right senses would attribute Covid to a witch.

Any supernatural epidemic would be explained by a scientific theory, missing pieces relegated to further research. Naturally the zombie plague must have been caused by a virus or radioactive mutation, whatever theory fits the facts better at the moment.

😉

 
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meganoth said:
Nowadays science is the explanation for everything and no scientist or journalist in his right senses would attribute Covid to a witch.
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Those tricky witches! That misdirection curse they cast at society about 100 years ago is still working.

 
Roland said:
Those tricky witches! That misdirection curse they cast at society about 100 years ago is still working.
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I'm just glad we all don't have to ride around on brooms.  Though... some of us do...

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I was puzzled that the game was based in Arizona or New Mexico region. I would have thought it would have been Florida and the zombies were just the evolution (or devolution) of an average Floridian. Heck there was even a news story about a guy in Florida attacking people and chewing on their faces.

 
Star69 said:
I was puzzled that the game was based in Arizona or New Mexico region. I would have thought it would have been Florida and the zombies were just the evolution (or devolution) of an average Floridian. Heck there was even a news story about a guy in Florida attacking people and chewing on their faces.
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And there we have it.  The zombie apocalypse will be brought on by bath salts.

 
My assumption was always Alien Virus that humans mutated by trying to nuke the aliens (hence the radiation and wasteland biomes).

AKA - We made it worse cos monke brain.

But for DF, I went with Demonic Possession/Control. Hence why they are dead, can still move and can also bleed.

 
from the OP "partially skeletonized bodies running around seem to rule out viral or fungal infection."

Add time...

Problem solved

 
Zombies are just the next step in evolution.  Zombies will look back on this transition and wonder how they ever survived as humans.

 
Urban Blackbear said:
I don't think I'm 100% up on the game lore for the zombies but I've always wondered how so many people became zombies if all it takes is honey and the occasional antibiotic. To me the zombies combined with the AI kind of gives the impression that the virus is an alien hive mind/colony sort of creature.
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I could be COMPLETELY wrong here, but I thought that the infection mechanic was more like how you can get an infected wound IRL. If the zombie infection is a virus, antibiotics and honey would do absolutely nothing to stop it. A virus can only be killed by your immune system or bacteriophages. But an IRL infection can def be cured with antibiotics or honey. And it makes sense that a rotting corpse would give you an infection. Even a bite from a person who brushes their teeth will give you one.

The zombie outbreak in 7d2d must be some kind of Mutated Hivemind Virus (of Alien or Nuclear Origin) OR Demonic in Nature. The zombies are slightly intelligent. They will always go for the easiest path to you, and are able to get other zombies to gang up on you. The screamer even works specifically as a scout to track down the player and summon a horde. It is worth noting as well that the virus (or whatever it is) only targets carnivores. Humans, Dogs, Vultures, and Bears are all considered "viable" by the virus, yet herbivores are completely unaffected. Hogs, Snakes, and Cougars are also unaffected as well though. Possibly because they are obsolete? Dogs are faster and more deadly than a Hog. Snakes are too slow. Cougars, while strong enough to kill a single human, are completely outclassed by Grizzly Bears, which are strong enough to kill a group of humans and fast enough to catch even Usain Bolt.

I think it's possible that the virus is infecting with a purpose. To create the most effective soldiers to spread the disease around.

But you cant ignore blood moons. While they rarely happen irl, they happen every week or even more often in 7d2d. If that isn't demonic, idk what is. Also the behemoth looks like it came straight out of doom so theres that. I don't think the virus is alien because it would be easier to just invade. Although maybe they spread it just to test on humans, not to invade earth.

(yes i know technically bears and humans are omnivores, and even dogs are to some extent, but in general we eat a LOT of meat.)

 
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TotallyNotABot said:
But you cant ignore blood moons. While they rarely happen irl,
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Well, they do happen IRL, so they don't need to be demonic? And I'd bet an eyeball that it's not the moon that changes color IRL. Quite likely the atmosphere between us, so it wouldn't be too far fetched to assume some kind of massive pollutant clouds traveling the globe causing both the coloration and the zed rage.

TotallyNotABot said:
I don't think the virus is alien because it would be easier to just invade.
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Send in enough ground troops to wipe out the population, as in millions? Or send in one vial of viral matter in a pressurised bottle? DNA is practically software code, if you've learned to modify it well enough, you might be able to rewrite an ecosystem. Maybe to start producing some of the compounds your species needs, or just to wipe out the competition or.. whatever :)

 
theFlu said:
Well, they do happen IRL, so they don't need to be demonic? And I'd bet an eyeball that it's not the moon that changes color IRL. Quite likely the atmosphere between us, so it wouldn't be too far fetched to assume some kind of massive pollutant clouds traveling the globe causing both the coloration and the zed rage.

Send in enough ground troops to wipe out the population, as in millions? Or send in one vial of viral matter in a pressurised bottle? DNA is practically software code, if you've learned to modify it well enough, you might be able to rewrite an ecosystem. Maybe to start producing some of the compounds your species needs, or just to wipe out the competition or.. whatever :)
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yeah you’re right about the blood moon not actually being red itself IRL, although I’m pretty sure even in demonic games a blood moon doesn’t actually mean that the whole moon turned red. 
 

You’re idea with the whole rage cloud thing does make sense though. It also seems that every horde is accompanied by storm clouds so I can believe your theory.

as for aliens, I guess it’s impossible to really rule them out. But it seems pretty inefficient, considering how communities seem to stay intact still. Having multiple traders within a 8km area suggests that theres a lot of other survivors besides just the player and their friends. Also the military still sends in supplies via air drops. Almost as if the outbreak is local and has been contained in that area. But I guess no matter what you say, aliens always remain a possibility. Can’t really rule them out.

 
Zombies are alien tourists that had their nuclear cameras backfire.  Not sure exactly how that happened or why their cameras were nuclear powered, but...  aliens!

 
Maharin said:
Zombies are alien tourists that had their nuclear cameras backfire.  Not sure exactly how that happened or why their cameras were nuclear powered, but...  aliens!
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Roadside picnic crossed with national lampoon’s vacation, certainly would be a new take on zombies

 
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