Biscoitoso
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Oh, ok! Now whe have a mine, lets put that on top of a counter, of course, cause we hate these people wich are aways walking on the counter.
PC first impressions of B173
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JCrook1028
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There are mines on top of fridges and walls also....
canadianbluebeer
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and on top of ladders. that sneaky one blew me right off the ...blasted.. bldg.
also are in attics. be careful, let the zeds hit them first.
also are in attics. be careful, let the zeds hit them first.
ElCabong
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It does not make sense to put the mine where you're not likely to walk on to it. likewise when I press e to try to pick it up it should blow up in my face but it does not. Perhaps that is what it is meant to do.
It's okay to put it on top of frigerators if somehow you're going to walk on it. Like coming in from the ceiling and going to land on the fridge perhaps or jump onto the fridge to get up into the Attic
Reckis
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Are you getting the hungry notification? Or is your food bar just dropping? The first one would be a problem after five minutes, the second would be the normal manner in which the digestive system works. I.E, you eat food and your body starts to digest it and burn it up, that's why you don't get the "hungry notification" or suffer any penalties until about 55%. Just because your bar has dropped a bit does not mean you are "hungry".ElCabong said:
As for the second bit about food getting you through the night . . . Are you doing things that use stamina in the interim? If you eat a little and then do nothing until morning you will probably get the results you expect.
None of this is to say that I don't think that the hunger system needs a little tweaking, but overall they have done a fairly good job with it.
Ramethzer0
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I cry every time I have to give up my air jordans and my letterman jacket. I love all that bonus runspeed.ElCabong said:
Tahaan
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If I made a mine and I did not want to step on it myself, I'd store it on top of the fridge.
Kattla
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You got some nice nailguns there, Biscoitose.
Most useful gun in the game, i'll tell you. What other gun can build, shoot and repair?
I tried it for a horde night too. Works like a charm.
Legit horde night too. No looping. Repair costs applies. Kills zombies, gets exp. Some risk involved, i got hit once or twice.
Biscoitoso
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The problem is: I dont need 40 Nailguns, just one.
Nice videos indeed, you have nice voice. Just try make your videos a little short.
Deadmeat
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A19 has been unplayable despite any combination of settings. 48G of RAM later and now things are running almost (but not always) perfectly.
I'll echo that the spawn is broken. Having enemies, especially animals that will murder you in early game, pop into existence right next to you without warning is a deal-breaker.
Not an a19 issue specifically (though personally I've never had a game before where I got infected on day 1 and couldn't find antibiotics/honey despite some pretty aggressive looting--twice!) but it would be helpful if at least the initial trader always had honey or antibiotics for sale.
That said, I'm thrilled by the improvements in a19 (now that it runs). The new POIs are great, and I love the challenge of finding new ways to deal with horde night.
I'll echo that the spawn is broken. Having enemies, especially animals that will murder you in early game, pop into existence right next to you without warning is a deal-breaker.
Not an a19 issue specifically (though personally I've never had a game before where I got infected on day 1 and couldn't find antibiotics/honey despite some pretty aggressive looting--twice!) but it would be helpful if at least the initial trader always had honey or antibiotics for sale.
That said, I'm thrilled by the improvements in a19 (now that it runs). The new POIs are great, and I love the challenge of finding new ways to deal with horde night.
Kattla
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Save's you repair kits. I used up 3 - 4 nailguns before i was happy enough with horde performance of that base.The problem is: I dont need 40 Nailguns, just one.
Nice videos indeed, you have nice voice. Just try make your videos a little short.
quick tip: Never complain about getting too much of something on these forums. It often end up the other way around very quick. On the same note, i shouldn't post horde or trap setup videos either.
Well, yes. Kinda ironic i named my longest video yet "make it quick". Fortunly i'm a known troll and can get away with it, i hope. Technicaly, it was quick since i put the game at 20 minuts days just to shoot that full horde instead of splitting it up as i usually do.
I think people's perception of hunger not making sense is that it doesn't make sense. Hunger and Thirst happen at the same rate, which goes against what people instinctively know.ElCabong said:
As for other first impressions. The higher res textures/models and lighting improvements are nice. However, they make parts of the game that are kind of primitive (like the base building block size being a HUGE block) kind of stick out. I know that sounds strange, but that's how it feels.
I unfortrunately dowloaded B173. Bad choice. First experimental I tried... Apart from me hating the current game I'm happy to say It's unplayable on my potato. Played since A15 or so with no problems, now I'm happy to say that it is unplayable and I can now put this game behind me for ever and move on,
Or, just putting this out there, turn down the texture resolution.
I did that since they increase the texture resolution in A19, and it works smoother than ever for me.
Scyris
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They give 10 meat but I agree, its easy to run down and club the chickens but the rabbits are harder. I've learned how close I can get sneaking up on one before I take the shot. Just remembers bows have projectile drop as the arrow travels, if you hit the ground behind it, you need to move your crosshair up a bit.wizard puke said:
Sounds like you need to upgrade your potato, its not just 7dtd, the next gen of consoles are coming out so, I expect many games will now require higher req's to run decently. As for a19... it kinda runs better for me than a18 did.
What did they do to the loot? did they set it back to how a18 was? or is it still this linear garbage they thought was a good idea in a19? It wasn't a good idea because one of the best things a18 had was the randomness, depending what loot/schematics you find it made each game different early game, compared to now where its the same every game pretty much.
FileMachete
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I'm only at the end of Day 10 on my first a19exp game, only switched to a19 on b173.
I might have read a hint about this perk, and that may have tipped things towards trying it, beacuse I'd never taken it before, but as a19s food stands right now the one 'must have' perk imo is Animal Tracker.
I've had success hunting bunnys doing this; drink a red tea or something with increased stamina regen, normal run to be nearish, but outside their spooked zone, stealth and get closer until they spook, then sprint in for the kill. I'm undecided on which is better, wood club or knives. Clubs have more reach and aoe minor damage, but knives use less stamina so it seems like the larger number of swings you get, or that you can sprint longer using knives might make it better for rabbits. But no question the bright green icon from Animal Tracker makes a huge difference keeping track of them in the grass. Also a solid tactic is when you can herd bunnys/chickens towards a wall.
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These are my overall impressions so far of a19. Bear in mind I've been playing 7dtd for 4+ years and I'm genuinely glad so many folks are having so much fun with it. I've also played Empyrion since Alpha 6, and I have no issues with it's farming/food system. Could be that it's more involved, or could be that rng doesn't decide your progress nearly as much, not sure.
Basic impression (and I'm cringing writing this) is that a19 is fairly boring. I started a new a18.4 game just a few weeks ago, so that experiance is fresh in mind, and I didn't feel this way about those first days.
To be fair one thing about this a19 game that is different is that the trader/city the starter quest sent me to has almost all the city in the snow. So after looting the 2 houses, the School, a military post and the small church that are outside the snow, I've had to travel quite a bit to find scattered pois.
I'm also electing to ignore all quests, same as the a18.4 game.
Think the major thing is the stamina/food bit. I like to build in 7dtd. I always mine quite a bit and start a mine night 1. But I was barely making it food/drink wise the first couple days, without any mining and walking everywhere (which just sucks). The animal tracker perk helped a lot, also bought master chef, and I looted a cooking pot day 2 so was able to make 3 bacon&eggs and some teas the second night. Day 3 I cleared the school, but got infected by a wolf. Spent all of day 4 & half of day 5 looking for honey/anitbiotics.
Day 10 I started relocating to another city that's entirely in the green forest. Spent all afternoon & evening clearing some of the rubble blocks away so the zeds can't get up to the 2nd floor (partially collapsed building). Each 200hp block takes 8 swings of a lvl5 stone axe with a gravedigger mod (haven't looted any melee mods so far, bought the gd at traders). I'd normally have broken out the first 6 blocks of the double wide concrete stairs, but no way in hell will I do that when each of the 6 would take -100- hits! So I blocked them off with a few cobb blocks.
Btw, I have bought lvl1 Miner69er and lvl1 Sexrex. So using food/teas yes, can swing basically non-stop, while stamina regen buff is active, but doing a measly 25 hp damage per swing is just not fun.
Food wise rng (or not rng, just the settings) hasn't been kind. I've looted schematics for Pumpkin and Yucca seeds, twice for both. Found 1 Aloe, 1 Corn and 1 Cotton seed. Nothing seed related for sale. Bought Living off the Land lvl1 to at least get double if I can ever find any potato/corn fields.
Been searching every nest I see, and I spent almost the whole of day 4 searching for honey and looting nests. Even bought eggs from trader when he had them. Used all my eggs and started out day 10 with 8 B&E. Used 2 B&Es and some grilled meat, plus several red teas, clearing rubble.
Not saying there isn't enough food, just not enough if you want to mine.
And while I have shovelled all the cobble/cement I've seen, if the trader hadn't had 700 cobb for sale I wouldn't have been able to reinforce all the openings in the ground floor of the poi I took for my inital base. And it came with concrete walls.
Having almost all the intial city in the snow didn't help. Sure I could have gone in while the inital temp protection was active, but with lumberjacks, daytime cougars & wolfs (I think?) that sure didn't sound like a good plan.
Oh, and to prepare for horde night I chopped off the wooden blocks of the front and back porch (so I could put in bars to shoot through), only the row connected to the concrete walls, then collapsed them. Did that with a lvl2 stone axe so what, ~14 hits per block? Mind numbingly boring.
I just don't get the combo of the food and stamina and by clear design the mining, along with stretching the primitive stage out, and now talking about having auger cost nearly as much stamina as steel tools.
Not intending to be hyperbolic but it really does seem like they're intentionally killing off any serious building, and I just don't see why.
I might have read a hint about this perk, and that may have tipped things towards trying it, beacuse I'd never taken it before, but as a19s food stands right now the one 'must have' perk imo is Animal Tracker.
I've had success hunting bunnys doing this; drink a red tea or something with increased stamina regen, normal run to be nearish, but outside their spooked zone, stealth and get closer until they spook, then sprint in for the kill. I'm undecided on which is better, wood club or knives. Clubs have more reach and aoe minor damage, but knives use less stamina so it seems like the larger number of swings you get, or that you can sprint longer using knives might make it better for rabbits. But no question the bright green icon from Animal Tracker makes a huge difference keeping track of them in the grass. Also a solid tactic is when you can herd bunnys/chickens towards a wall.
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These are my overall impressions so far of a19. Bear in mind I've been playing 7dtd for 4+ years and I'm genuinely glad so many folks are having so much fun with it. I've also played Empyrion since Alpha 6, and I have no issues with it's farming/food system. Could be that it's more involved, or could be that rng doesn't decide your progress nearly as much, not sure.
Basic impression (and I'm cringing writing this) is that a19 is fairly boring. I started a new a18.4 game just a few weeks ago, so that experiance is fresh in mind, and I didn't feel this way about those first days.
To be fair one thing about this a19 game that is different is that the trader/city the starter quest sent me to has almost all the city in the snow. So after looting the 2 houses, the School, a military post and the small church that are outside the snow, I've had to travel quite a bit to find scattered pois.
I'm also electing to ignore all quests, same as the a18.4 game.
Think the major thing is the stamina/food bit. I like to build in 7dtd. I always mine quite a bit and start a mine night 1. But I was barely making it food/drink wise the first couple days, without any mining and walking everywhere (which just sucks). The animal tracker perk helped a lot, also bought master chef, and I looted a cooking pot day 2 so was able to make 3 bacon&eggs and some teas the second night. Day 3 I cleared the school, but got infected by a wolf. Spent all of day 4 & half of day 5 looking for honey/anitbiotics.
Day 10 I started relocating to another city that's entirely in the green forest. Spent all afternoon & evening clearing some of the rubble blocks away so the zeds can't get up to the 2nd floor (partially collapsed building). Each 200hp block takes 8 swings of a lvl5 stone axe with a gravedigger mod (haven't looted any melee mods so far, bought the gd at traders). I'd normally have broken out the first 6 blocks of the double wide concrete stairs, but no way in hell will I do that when each of the 6 would take -100- hits! So I blocked them off with a few cobb blocks.
Btw, I have bought lvl1 Miner69er and lvl1 Sexrex. So using food/teas yes, can swing basically non-stop, while stamina regen buff is active, but doing a measly 25 hp damage per swing is just not fun.
Food wise rng (or not rng, just the settings) hasn't been kind. I've looted schematics for Pumpkin and Yucca seeds, twice for both. Found 1 Aloe, 1 Corn and 1 Cotton seed. Nothing seed related for sale. Bought Living off the Land lvl1 to at least get double if I can ever find any potato/corn fields.
Been searching every nest I see, and I spent almost the whole of day 4 searching for honey and looting nests. Even bought eggs from trader when he had them. Used all my eggs and started out day 10 with 8 B&E. Used 2 B&Es and some grilled meat, plus several red teas, clearing rubble.
Not saying there isn't enough food, just not enough if you want to mine.
And while I have shovelled all the cobble/cement I've seen, if the trader hadn't had 700 cobb for sale I wouldn't have been able to reinforce all the openings in the ground floor of the poi I took for my inital base. And it came with concrete walls.
Having almost all the intial city in the snow didn't help. Sure I could have gone in while the inital temp protection was active, but with lumberjacks, daytime cougars & wolfs (I think?) that sure didn't sound like a good plan.
Oh, and to prepare for horde night I chopped off the wooden blocks of the front and back porch (so I could put in bars to shoot through), only the row connected to the concrete walls, then collapsed them. Did that with a lvl2 stone axe so what, ~14 hits per block? Mind numbingly boring.
I just don't get the combo of the food and stamina and by clear design the mining, along with stretching the primitive stage out, and now talking about having auger cost nearly as much stamina as steel tools.
Not intending to be hyperbolic but it really does seem like they're intentionally killing off any serious building, and I just don't see why.
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Or I'm just dumb enough to expect that a game I buy will work on the computer I buy it on...
JCrook1028
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Only if said computer meets the minimum specs listed on the game page... You can buy the game on a computer that can't play it but that's your own fault.
Laz Man
Fun Pimps Staff
No need for dramatics...Its experimental for a reason. Lots of people have seen huge performance increases from lowering terrain quality to low. I can confirm this works for me and the difference in terrain textures is not significant enough to warrant the performance impact.
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