PC Don't like a17
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themirror
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"1 poor performance 10~30 fps lowest settings 800x600 (USED TO PLAY AT `50~120 FPS)"
WHAAAAT? I have an R7 360, only lagging a bit when big hordes spawn, running the game almost on ultra (switched off a few things like motion blur that give me motion sickness....) My graphic card is a low-end card and is handling the game
WHAAAAT? I have an R7 360, only lagging a bit when big hordes spawn, running the game almost on ultra (switched off a few things like motion blur that give me motion sickness....) My graphic card is a low-end card and is handling the game
ricp
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This is a stupid comment. No offence to you but anyone who immediately drops to the "you must get better kit" as an answer just doesn't understand that (a) that is genuinely not a path available to some, and (b) nobody is going to spend hundreds of £/$/€ just for one game when other similar titles can run at a decent speed.
FPS issues has been reported almost across the board, whether it slices a chunk of the top of your frame rate (especially in POIs or with numerous zombies) or rendering the game pretty unplayable due to lag.
I am happy for you that you seem to have a sweet spot with your computer and A17, but just a cursory glance around the forum will show that you are very much in the minority.
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DEADication
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That's a bit of a leap.
You can't come to any statistical conclusion from forum posts.
People with a complaint will always have, in a free and open discourse, a louder voice than those without any complaint.
When those people are a minority, we have a name for it, 'the vocal minority'.
I do not know and neither do you, what the percentage of people with issues versus people without truly is.
I have an RX580 8G and the game runs better than A16 and looks better than A16.
RestInPieces
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I wouldn't suggest that you play on creative - I understand your point. I was of the opinion that essential recipe perks shouldn't be tied to leveling myself, but still, you don't have to wait for the death debuff doing nothing. Also try to raise attributes a bit before spreading points (the strict level requirements should be lessened though for specialization), so that the penalty is not that severe. The death penalty also diminishes with time before it expires. Lack of death penalty in A16 and before made death trivial, which is anything but good for any survival game.
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I am a bit concerned that TFP only tests or plays in MP. Many of the things that seem trivial in a group are a terrible slog in SP. Base defense is especially dull and frustrating. Don't get me wrong, I like many of the new things in A17, but it feels as if the game is becoming less SP friendly, perhaps due to unbalanced testing.
ricp
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Perhaps not as much as you'd think. Obviously I don't have statistics to back it up, but anecdotally that seems to be the case. Further weight can be added via the numerous streams over the release weekend. These are guys and girls who stream for a living so their kit in general tends to favour "high end" specs. All of the ones I've seen (and without counting I'd list maybe 10 or so well known 7DtD streamers) commented on frame rate issues in comparison to A16.
Now don't get me wrong, if you have the kit that gets you that sweet spot, then I am genuinely happy for you. I really am, but I'd say from all the corroborating evidence that will not be the case for the majority of people.
I disagree with your loud voices analogy, as can be seen within any community there are always detractors and fan boys (or girls). Although I have no great desire to get into a big discussion about that.
Saera
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I am loving A17 so far. It is so much harder, and I am forced to actually pay attention to the game, and am scared when I hear a noise. In A16 it was "well theres a mini horde outside, I am gonna finish what I am doing and go deal with them because they make annoying sounds." Now we are always on edge and actually immersed in the game play.
That said, there are a few things I dislike so far such as:
The stamina and food issue. I feel there needs to be some tweaking there. The depletion seems off, too much too fast.
The level gating for crafting stuff....ehhh theres so much required elsewhere in the skills, that there is no need to make it THAT difficult. No matter what we have to spend our points in a smart fashion, throw us a bone here Pimps.
I would like to say I dislike how hard the zombies are and how they get me no matter what but honestly, I like it. Maybe tone down their hearing some, as they should not hear me sneak walking from across the road while in a basement, but other than that I enjoy that there is a hungry zombie or 12 on my tail at any given time.
That said, there are a few things I dislike so far such as:
The stamina and food issue. I feel there needs to be some tweaking there. The depletion seems off, too much too fast.
The level gating for crafting stuff....ehhh theres so much required elsewhere in the skills, that there is no need to make it THAT difficult. No matter what we have to spend our points in a smart fashion, throw us a bone here Pimps.
I would like to say I dislike how hard the zombies are and how they get me no matter what but honestly, I like it. Maybe tone down their hearing some, as they should not hear me sneak walking from across the road while in a basement, but other than that I enjoy that there is a hungry zombie or 12 on my tail at any given time.
HIREDGUN
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Exactly. I Wanted A17 to be a challenge again At ALL LEVELS... and it finally is.
A16 was fun but after lvl40 you were just repeating tasks it to hit lvl200. it got boring quick and players would just hit lvl 200 and then build a huge base then hop to another server... to get the "thrill" of lvls 1-40 again.
The only thing I would adjust is set zombie drop rate to 5%-10% from 2% because after 150 kills I have yet to see a drop bag from them.
Maybe i'm just unlucky, but dropping a bag every 25-50 zombie is what I would call reasonable.
Also the restriction at the traders in MP could fill up quickly with spent Guns as players shoot off the rounds and sell them to the traders and the fact traders buy only 3 stacks of any item... 3 pistols...3 shotguns... 3 etc.
insanetoast
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I have 64 GB RAM and average 30-45 FPS. It's Experimental build and poorly optimized bc it's Experimental. Swing your e-peen elsewhere.
You misunderstand me, I'm afraid. I have no real problem with the death debuff. It's annoying (mostly because of encumbrance in my personal estimation) but not a huge deal. What annoys me and makes me not want to play is having to spend so long in the "hit a boulder 5 times, wait 10 seconds, repeat" stage of the game. It's not hard, it's just boring. Stamina in combat I'm fine with. Running would be okay too, if walking was at a reasonable speed (it's better in A17, but still annoyingly slow. If the 8192X8192 random map is 8km across it should take < 2 in game hours to walk entirely across. That's only walking 2.5 miles an hour, which is not at all fast.)
The new stealth system compounds this, with the "hit something, wait 3-4 seconds for the noise to decay, repeat" mechanic.
The real killer, though, is the max stamina mechanic and the seeming rarity of food. That wolf that I mentioned in my previous post as being happy to see because it would mean I had decent food attacked me when my max stamina cap was at 30. That wasn't from repeated deaths, either, it was simply from trying to play the game and not being able to find any food that didn't keep giving me food poisoning.
Now, while that may be something that you enjoy, it isn't something that I do. Hence why I haven't been saying that I think A17 is bad (I think a lot of it's really good, honestly) but that it simply isn't enjoyable for me.
RestInPieces
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Between crafting, looking over my shoulder, looting and building, I never had to wait doing nothing. And it's certainly not "5 times" you can get enough work done when satiated. Stamina regen also works between actions. By what you say below I'd wager that you neglect keeping your character hydrated/satiated.
Why even do that? You can harvest anything and move a little further to continue if something hears you. If dogs hear you yes, it will be a problem (dogs are overtuned) but if anything else hears you you just avoid it and go somewhere else.
30 max stamina?
The lowest I've feel in my playthrough was min ~75 stamina. You are doing something wrong. If you neglect eating like you could in A16 it's not the game's fault. Hunt. You will easily gather enough good quality food to get by and keep your stamina at max levels.From my understanding you play A17 like it's A16, which is understandable at first until you adapt.
hristian991
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HOW ???? i have GT740m it's slightly slower to yours http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-R7-360-vs-GeForce-GT-740M
It wasn't neglect, I spawned in a desert and the only food I had was yucca, and I didn't find water for over a day, not that my hydration was every particularly low. Also, 5 times was obviously something of a hyperbole, but I seriously find I have to stop and regen stamina around 4-5 times to finish harvesting a boulder, even with 100 stamina.
Because I was trying not to draw extra zombies/wake up sleepers trying to get into a POI. As far as dogs...I've found them massively easier than in A16.
I was eating...but all I had was yucca, which was constantly giving me food poisoning. That wolf that I was happy to see because I finally had food was the first animal I'd seen in A17. Maybe I've just had terrible luck with map spawns and loot, but I've found food to be super rare.30 max stamina?
I also ate constantly in A16. Pretty much as soon as I could eat or drink, I would.
If trying to gather resources to make a POI safe to stay in overnight is the wrong way to play, I'm not sure what the right way is (unless it's all nomad-like, in which case, not something I enjoy.)
1.check and update graphics card, also check your resolution.. that will help
6. One line of code will change this. go into the enityclasses.xml look up zombiemale. see where it says <property name="LootDropProb" value=".75"/> <!-- Whether it drops a loot bag on death or not. -->
i changed mine to .75 they dont drop each time but its more frequent now..
7. same with this., this can all be mod coded.. not hard to do. Ive already changed it on my server, stamina, loot, put back in recipes they took out
8. also changed in code
9. I took out stamina on items altogether so everything runs as normal..
all code changes are server side so nothing to download. If you are playing personal and not server you can still change everything I mentioned. I would suggest you hang out in the mod area also.Hit me up with a PM if you need help.. I dont mind answering any questions you may have.
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RestInPieces
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Maybe - I never had a problem finding enough animals to sustain me. Haven't played in a desert yet, don't know if something was changed when it comes to animals. Finding water and a pot is very easy in general. Keep the yucas to make yuca juice when you find water instead of eating them. If you spawn in a desert, focus on basic needs before harvesting materials for anything else. And you can easily get out of the desert before losing much satiation/hydration to find a more friendly biome and move back in when you gather the basics.
MetroDetroitGaming
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Where is the file to change the gate for the forge and other items? I looked in progression but didnt see it.